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[Doer]

Well, you can't manufacture that fight. I clearly am not this character Doer, you keep referring to. And Doer doesn't try to be more or less clever for your approval so I hope that is clear also.

I have clearly stated that the USA is a very fucked up place.

I just place it is as the very most fucked up and surely the cause of many if not all of the ills in this sad world.

America!@ Fuck Yeah.

 

[Doer]

And when has ole Doer every said he was superior to anyone?

See, that has never happened as you well know since you read my posts of the Doer mind. Smooch back.

 

[Doer]

Hmm....there is a 2 on 1 interview, now....

1 minute and 20 seconds is missing.....in the time line of Zims story. They are confronting Z with 911 tapes and saying this is that chance for you to come clean. If you have anything to make us not think you were not chasing him. "Because that is what we think."

The story gets swapped around, about going back for a flashlight when he just said he had run through there in the dark. "You were looking for him, weren't you? You have one chance. You don't need to lie..."

They don't charge these guys for nothing, you know.

 

[ricky1lung]

Doer, it's ok.

Own yourself and the positions you stand firm in.

The portrayal of superiority is what you try to convey. " portrayal " is the key.

While you are smart enough not to outright say it you are not clever enough to portray it without the ignorance being blatantly obvious.

Yes I read, yes I speak up against you. Maybe you will learn not to be so holier than thou in future postings knowing so.

Alternatively you will remain the same Doer we all know.

I appreciate the attempt, save your smooches for a man that might reciprocate for you

 

[Doer]

Isn't that simply a strict judgmental comment against my style as it impacts YOUR mind?

You are now saying that I am only pretending to not put on the pretense of superiority, in your mind.

 

[Doer]

And perhaps I would only be interested in the look on your face. Hmmmm?

 

[ricky1lung]

Isn't that simply a strict judgmental comment against my style as it impacts YOUR mind?

You are now saying that I am only pretending to not put on the pretense of superiority, in your mind.

No no, no need to mince words that have been so clear. My issue is not that of style.

My issue is with someone who is continuously offensive toward multiple nationalities. Someone who's portrayal of themselves is that of an end all be all.

I suppose when looked at through that light it may be a personal issue between you and I.

No kisses needed, no love lost.

Btw. My wife enjoys the look on my face when she's ballin me too.

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

So Serino says Zimmerman told him the truth.

Wow.

 

[UncleBuck]

I went back and compared the non-emergency line call transcript (even though it's being called the 911 call transcript) and the written statement he gave. On the call he says "there's a real suspicious guy" "this guy looks like he's up to no good" "walking around, looking about". I think those three portions of the conversation correlate with his written statement which described Martin "Casually walking in the rain looking into homes".

While not exact word for word, the two certainly don't contradict each other. And neither support redivider's claim that he wasn't looking into homes. Maybe he wasn't, maybe Zimmerman embellished in his written statement. But, it's specious to claim he wasn't as a matter of fact with nothing to support it.

notice how he's just looking about, and THEN, later on, he's looking into homes.

if martin was looking into homes, that would have been mentioned on the initial call. that the story gets worse later on is classic cognitive dissonance. he's trying to justify his actions after the fact by making the actions seem more suspicious.

you know this.

 

[UncleBuck]

The judge won't let the prosecutor say "racially profiled", just "profiled", but we all know what that means, don't we?

it means profiled.

i profile people in my neighborhood all the time. unkempt, heavy back pack, driving by too slowly, gazing over the fence at my greenhouse, all set off my mental alarms.

all that profiling goes on without even taking race into account.

don't blame your racism and stupidity on the accurate description of zimmerman profiling martin.

 

[UncleBuck]

Despite Doer reiterating the arguable details of the encounter that have been argued into the ground in the BIG thread, none of it really matters. It's a waste of time because NOTHING, let me repeat that, NOTHING Zimmerman did before the PHYSICAL EXCHANGE was illegal. Nothing.

doesn't have to be illegal, it just has to demonstrate ill will or intent, bad judgment, and destroy his credibility. and it does. in spades.

The reason, motivation, attitude and temperament that led him to do so is inconsequential

like i just said, no they are not.

self defense cases come down to credibility and good judgment. zimm had neither. he also had demonstrable ill will and intent for those fucking assholes, those fucking punks, who were always getting away.

as long as he didn't break the law by initiating the ACTUAL PHYSICAL CONTACT. If he did, then he needs to spend time in the pokey. However, I think the prosecution is going to have a hard time PROVING beyond all reasonable doubt that it went down exactly that way.

the prosecution is not even going to attempt that, we knew this months and months ago. learn 2 trial, homey.

Zim knows the truth, but I don't think he's gonna roll over on himself.

he already buried himself on the initial call.

those fucking assholes. those fuckiing punks. those guys. they always get away.

call me for my location, i'm gonna go get these fucking assholes. these fucking punks.

 

[UncleBuck]

So, the guy who had his head slammed into concrete

no evidence for that.

 

[UncleBuck]

Having a pipe and an empty bag isn't trafficking, no proof of theft and the alleged "swing on a bus driver" is just a tweet sent from his cousin. Trying to deduce what actually happened from either person's history is folly compared to the actual evidence and eyewitness accounts.

zimm's history is very relevant.

he has a long history of violence. it is documented.

he sees a plain clothes cop arresting his friend, tries to mess with him, cop identifies himself, zimm says "i don't care who the fuck you are!" and attacks him anyway.

he sees a motorist spit out his window, he thinks the motorist was spitting at him, he aggressively follows the guy. the dude he's following is in fear for his safety.

he posts up outside his fiancee's place, forces his way in, throws her on the bed, slaps her mouth with his open hand and asks "how do you like that!?!".

he "snaps", as his friends put it, and throws a drunken lady around, causing her a sprained ankle.

he has a long history of violence, getting too involved, and just plain old "snapping".

martin has no record and no history of violence. and he ran. zimm followed and searched. facts.

 

[UncleBuck]

... we only have one eye witness to the whole thing and he says Martin started it by punching Z in the face.

oh, you mean the guy who has everything to gain by lying and who has been caught in no less than at least half a dozen demonstrable lies?

yeah, great witness.

zimm lied many, many times. innocent people don't need to lie.

 

[UncleBuck]

Care to address my argument on the legality of Zim's actions leading up to the physical exchange.

his actions were all perfectly legal and demonstrate ill will and intent, bad judgment, and destroy his credibility.

 

[UncleBuck]

So Serino says Zimmerman told him the truth.

Wow.

well, he told several different stories, one of them might have been the truth.

he also said the injuries were minor and not life threatening.

hear that desert dud? i guess interrogators sometimes say stuff to induce people into talking, eh?



serino should be fired for asking questions during his interrogation though, right?

LOfuckingL.

dumbass.

 

[UncleBuck]

and just to end my game of catch up, i advise ricky1lung to shut the fuck up, and i say that for your own good, ricky.

doer is untrollable. i tried. it's pointless. give up.

 

[desert dude]

zimm's history is very relevant.

he has a long history of violence. it is documented.

he sees a plain clothes cop arresting his friend, tries to mess with him, cop identifies himself, zimm says "i don't care who the fuck you are!" and attacks him anyway.

he sees a motorist spit out his window, he thinks the motorist was spitting at him, he aggressively follows the guy. the dude he's following is in fear for his safety.

he posts up outside his fiancee's place, forces his way in, throws her on the bed, slaps her mouth with his open hand and asks "how do you like that!?!".

he "snaps", as his friends put it, and throws a drunken lady around, causing her a sprained ankle.

he has a long history of violence, getting too involved, and just plain old "snapping".

martin has no record and no history of violence. and he ran. zimm followed and searched. facts.

You have a vivid imagination, Buck.

Two issues were brought up by the prosecution: The restraining order from his girl friend, and the incident with the cop. Both issues were addressed by the defense. Both issues were dismissed.

The PA stated that ending the beating likely saved Z's life.

Good testified that he witnessed the ground and pound.

No witness has given testimony that contradicts the basic accounting of that night given by Zimmerman.

The police dispatcher testified that his conversation with Z was calm, nothing unusual. He said it is common for callers to use profanity such as, "these ass holes always get away", etc. Such language shows absolutely nothing.

I don't see why you are so invested in this, all the way to the point of inventing quotes, inventing mental illness on the part of Z. You are either just an ugly troll or a bit deranged.

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

You aren't watching any of it are you?

 

[UncleBuck]

You have a vivid imagination, Buck.

those things all happened, whether it makes your ass hurt or not.

so sorry it makes your ass hurt. my condolences.

No witness has given testimony that contradicts the basic accounting of that night given by Zimmerman.

you're funny.

the cops contradicted zimm's account. eyewitnesses contradicted zimm's account. jeantel contradicted zimmerman's account.

hell, zimmerman contradicts zimmerman's account.

I don't see why you are so invested in this, all the way to the point of inventing quotes, inventing mental illness on the part of Z. You are either just an ugly troll or a bit deranged.

go ahead and try to prove any of what i said as false. you can't.

keep pissing into the wind. i'm just very proud of you that you managed to go one entire post without bringing race into this again.

quite the accomplishment for a racist like you, who has brought up race in damn near very post you've made.