The New 'Merica

ClaytonBigsby

Well-Known Member
There are MANY better places to live. the rat race in the US is inhumane. Most people in the world enjoy their lives, not rush through it to make corporations more wealthy.

Most countries in S. Am are pretty damn good. Denmark, Sweden, Italy, Norway, etc, if you can afford it.

Did you know Germany has mandatory 8 weeks paid vacation a year?
 

skunkd0c

Well-Known Member
There are MANY better places to live. the rat race in the US is inhumane. Most people in the world enjoy their lives, not rush through it to make corporations more wealthy.

Most countries in S. Am are pretty damn good. Denmark, Sweden, Italy, Norway, etc, if you can afford it.

Did you know Germany has mandatory 8 weeks paid vacation a year?
Cuba or North Korea ?

run away and join the north Korean army



Mcnugget free
 

ClaytonBigsby

Well-Known Member
While those girls are very cute, and probably easy, I would have to shy away from communist countries, and pretty much the entire continent of Africa.


Don't know why they remind me of this

[video=youtube;xxEcZg7EEGc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxEcZg7EEGc[/video]
 

BigNBushy

Well-Known Member
I used to be a fervent listener of Neil Boortz before he retired. He always spoke highly of New Zealand and how they were rated number 1 in the world in economic freedom. I can't do a source, just what Boortz said.
 

beardo

Well-Known Member
I usually stay out of this minefield, but many in TNT know I have some strong opinions on the future of the the US and world. Let's not point party fingers, because, as I have stated in the few posts made in this section, both parties are nothing more than puppets. We need to discuss what is happening to this country, the world, and humanity. Soon, the corporations/few truly elite will be running the world and we will all be nothing but slaves. Soylent green is sheople!

The dollar keeps climbing on news of job growth, and the horrible joke that is the manipulated stock market goes up. The truth, however is that these "new jobs" are mostly minimum wage jobs, and now, a little more truth slips into the light. The corporations and big business are actually turning to temps to cut costs and avoid paying benefits. The fucking wealthy are doing away with paying for healthcare and making us pay for ourselves with the new Obamacare plan. How do people not see what is happening? This is not an anti Obama post, it is a commentary on what the few at the top are manuevering into for a few more dollars at the expense of the many slaves who think they have something because they keep buying what the tv tells them they need to be something.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/temporary-jobs-becoming-permanent-fixture-140133833.html

Temporary Jobs Becoming a Permanent Fixture in US

Temporary jobs becoming a permanent fixture in US as more employers seek 'just-in-time' labor
The idea is that "our" govt is bought and our money isn't really money but everyone thinks it is and stays focused on it, they want people working more and having less so that you do nothing but work for room and board so you can eat and live and as soon as your to old or sick to work you can fuck off and sleep under a bridge and die, if you don't work they will capture you and cage you and offer you "freedom" if you "volunteer" to work for for free. They want to entice the young to join the military so they can enforce this throughout the world, they make this appealing with movies and TV that they expose us to from a young age- GI Joe etc and also by having a bad economy it becomes an attractive option. Our "enemys"- communists etc are actually our partners- China is our most favored trading partner, if your rich you can go to Japan when your sick and China will execute a prisoner in a mobile execution van on the tarmac and harvest the organs you need and fly them to Japan where they will transplant them for you, this is considered acceptable. They will be slowly conditioning us like they have been and standards of living and morality will continue to decrease, they want people working just to be alive to work more, you work for bread and once you can no longer work- no more bread. The problem is that increases in efficiency and the fact that the "money' most covet is worthless means there are to many workers and not enough worthy consumers-
Not a good situation if you are a worker
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
you have lots of bits missing from your globe, the world is bigger than that, you want to stay in the Americas lol
the rest of the world sighs in relief i guess

what about Japan ?
Spain is hot but it does have Spanish people , i guess you are sick of those already in your homeland

as far as i know you can't buy 100 chicken Mcnuggets in England so you would be out of luck you could buy 5x 20 boxes but the price would be high
you possibly are in the best suited place
no shit.

should go without saying that most of asia and africa have nothing on the states, especially where i rest my head.

japan is way too expensive and not friendly to growers.

spain is friendly to growers in the right places, but again, too socialist (for your edification, spanish and mexican are not the same thing. spanish + mestizo = mexican. you're welcome.).

i wouldn't touch a chicken mcnugget as i am a friend of chickens, and the chickens (and chemicals) that compopse a mcnugget is about the cruelest thing you could ever support.

you're not gonna find anywhere as free as america with such a high standard of living. end of discussion.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
you're hilarious beardo.

no real disagreement with the OP, we are being pinched.

question though: is there any country better than ours that you'd prefer to live in more? that goes for OP and anyone else who wants to answer.

my answer: nope. for all our faults, there is no better place in the world for me.
Have you been anywhere else in the world? as in outside CONUS?
 

ClaytonBigsby

Well-Known Member
There are many incredible places around the world with a very luxurious living style. Many with spectacular views and countries that do not care if you grow. Food is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay healthier than the swill we eat. Ask any expat, how much better they feel after getting off US garbage for a few weeks. In many S. Am countries, electricity/water/internet is less than $50/mo. Yes, that is combined. How can they get the exact same shit we get, for a fraction of the cost?
 

GOD HERE

Well-Known Member
no shit.

should go without saying that most of asia and africa have nothing on the states, especially where i rest my head.

japan is way too expensive and not friendly to growers.

spain is friendly to growers in the right places, but again, too socialist (for your edification, spanish and mexican are not the same thing. spanish + mestizo = mexican. you're welcome.).

i wouldn't touch a chicken mcnugget as i am a friend of chickens, and the chickens (and chemicals) that compopse a mcnugget is about the cruelest thing you could ever support.

you're not gonna find anywhere as free as america with such a high standard of living. end of discussion.
Too socialist? Oh jesus, of all the people here...

I'm sure Abandon will be along to explain.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
question though: is there any country better than ours that you'd prefer to live in more?
Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Sweden, Norway, Finland, The Netherlands, Switzerland, France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, The Bahamas

i wouldn't touch a chicken mcnugget as i am a friend of chickens, and the chickens (and chemicals) that compopse a mcnugget is about the cruelest thing you could ever support.

you're not gonna find anywhere as free as america with such a high standard of living. end of discussion.
What? There are way more cruel things to support than eating chicken mcnuggets. Couldn't one argue that not eating chicken mcnuggets, and letting that carcass and extra cartilage go to waste is more cruel than eating it all so the whole chicken is used? And although they're horrible for you, they're delicious, especially when you're stoned or drunk!

More free and with a higher standard of living? Well are you using the designated definitions of those two measurements or ones own personal definitions? There are many more places with more freedom than America, there are also many more places with a higher standard of living, there are even some with both in northern Europe (by measurable standards)
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
*Couldn't one argue that not eating chicken mcnuggets, and letting that carcass and extra cartilage go to waste is more cruel than eating it all so the whole chicken is used? And although they're horrible for you, they're delicious, especially when you're stoned or drunk!
they only abuse those chickens and serve them to you because you put your money in front of you and ask for them.

if you stop putting the money in front of you and asking for them, they have no reason to mass produce chicken in the cruelest fashion possible.

have fun living in a tiny european apartment that is the size of my half bathroom and driving a car with as much power as my left nut while paying taxes that make ours look like those tiny charges at the end of your phone bill.
 

chewberto

Well-Known Member
"Distraction" I believe this is what your looking for....

We are creatures who seek out friendship and or companions through the force of love. We all have our desires and wants for the world and our families. We all have a hate for someone who doesn't match our standards, and the views in that desire within us. As much as we have passion for this, we have that equal hate..no more no less...We are distracted by the little things which deter a true and sound solution..we have fear Above our heads, we have pain in our hearts, we have a voice that is mute due to lack of education and no expression because we were designed to feel only one way, we are lost although they assure us we have reached our destination! We have a cycle of eniquity handed down to us from our elders and authority figures because they had the weong teacher too.....Who's destination? Who's desire are we living out? And what is stopping us from our own desires and goals? It is harder to survive....but easier to die depending on what you want.....
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
they only abuse those chickens and serve them to you because you put your money in front of you and ask for them.

if you stop putting the money in front of you and asking for them, they have no reason to mass produce chicken in the cruelest fashion possible.

have fun living in a tiny european apartment that is the size of my half bathroom and driving a car with as much power as my left nut while paying taxes that make ours look like those tiny charges at the end of your phone bill.
I would still eat chicken if McDonalds didn't make chicken mcnuggets, I don't believe eating animals is wrong. I empathise with the animal for being killed of course, but when it comes down to 'them v. me', the answer will always be them, no matter how brutal or inhumane their death is

What is the difference between an animal's potential suffering and a plants? Without eating plants or animals, you would die, so what makes an animals life more important than that of a plant? This is an honest question, I'm not attempting to argue with you..

I would rather live in a tiny European apartment that is the size of your half bathroom and drive a car with as much power as your left nut while paying taxes that make the US' look tiny than live in a country that creates it's own laws as it's current government sees fit, elects its public officials based on ignorance and stupidity, praises heterosexual relationships and marriages over homosexual ones even if the former is more likely to divorce, holds more of it's population by percentage in prison than anywhere else in the world (for bullshit reasons I might add), has the shittiest measures of public education in the western world, and is on the brink of economic collapse, yes. Thank you for asking.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
America, fuck yeah!


'Biggest Loser' Contestant Sued After Allegedly Gaining 'Far Too Much Weight'

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/biggest-loser-contestant-sued-allegedly-gaining-far-too-230230201.html
I actually agree with that (having read the report you posted)

The chick agreed to maintain a specific level of exercise and conditioning, she didn't, the company has a right to sue. If she thought she couldn't, or didn't want to, she shouldn't have signed and agreed that she could or would, right?
 

UncleBuck

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I would still eat chicken if McDonalds didn't make chicken mcnuggets, I don't believe eating animals is wrong. I empathise with the animal for being killed of course, but when it comes down to 'them v. me', the answer will always be them, no matter how brutal or inhumane their death is
i'm not against killing animals, i'm against the completely inhumane way in which they are raised all the way up until how they are killed.

for reference, google 'cal cruz hatcheries'. that's what you promote when you buy fast food anything. and that's only the start of a very miserable, inhumane existence.

What is the difference between an animal's potential suffering and a plants? Without eating plants or animals, you would die, so what makes an animals life more important than that of a plant? This is an honest question, I'm not attempting to argue with you..
really? an animal versus a plant?

one is sentient, the other is not.

I would rather live in a tiny European apartment that is the size of your half bathroom and drive a car with as much power as your left nut while paying taxes that make the US' look tiny than live in a country that creates it's own laws as it's current government sees fit, elects its public officials based on ignorance and stupidity, praises heterosexual relationships and marriages over homosexual ones even if the former is more likely to divorce, holds more of it's population by percentage in prison than anywhere else in the world (for bullshit reasons I might add), has the shittiest measures of public education in the western world, and is on the brink of economic collapse, yes. Thank you for asking.
with an attitude like that, you'll just find something to complain about in whatever new country you move to.

and on top of that, you'll be stuck in a tiny apartment with a shitty little car paying high taxes.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
i'm not against killing animals, i'm against the completely inhumane way in which they are raised all the way up until how they are killed.

for reference, google 'cal cruz hatcheries'. that's what you promote when you buy fast food anything. and that's only the start of a very miserable, inhumane existence.
Oh, absolutely, I agree 100%

really? an animal versus a plant?

one is sentient, the other is not.
Of course. I was just wondering where you personally drew the line

So it's sentience?

So what level of sentience? As I understand it, sentience means the capacity for feeling, so would that include insects, reptiles, etc.? How can you determine the level of sentience of an organism? If you can't, how can you then judge any organisms level of importance based on their level of sentience?

with an attitude like that, you'll just find something to complain about in whatever new country you move to.
and on top of that, you'll be stuck in a tiny apartment with a shitty little car paying high taxes.
Perhaps, but whatever I decide to complain about in the new country I might choose to move to will be much less important and encapsulating than the problems I experience living in the United States. For example, while I can never escape constant surveillance here in the US, I could move to the outback or somewhere in South America and not communicate with anyone via modern technology and escape it fine. The issues I would face abroad wouldn't even compare to the issues and restraints I face at home
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
Long waits to see a doctor.. unless your rich you can see a private one.



Prozac is just a drop in the bucket to whats in the water now.

I have np problem waiting if its free.

IF it is life threatening they have a free emergency room also.
 
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