advanced nutes

Dboi87

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No argument here, just pointing out the logistics of it all. I did the organic soil thing for a few years too, finally switched to just promix and Pure Blend which actually gave me more yield at a fraction of the effort. Work smart, not hard ;).
What's pure blend?
 

BUdbuddysmile

Active Member
I like pure blend pro with AN additives. I did that for while. Its a good combo. However, Iguana Juice hits it out of the park for an all organic base.
Yes I am running AN in soil right now. I don't know why they market so heavy on hydroponics. The products work fine in soil, but as mentioned, get good run off! You should get good run off with any nutes though IME.
 

JonnyAppleSeed420

New Member
perhaps i was a bit harsh. but... i do not think that AN leads the pack as a nute that is free of issues for the average user... perhaps splitting the essentials into many bottles is beneficial, but, if you are talking "simplicity"... imo, there are better options. DG is as easy as it gets. The best? Maybe not... but imo, just as good as any other.

"complicated as all hell" was a little overboard... but as far as simplicity goes, I would disagree that AN leads when you have 1 bottle complete nutes out there that leave no plants lacking the essentials.
Everyone should be allowed their opinion for sure. I have growers from soil to hydro and they all seem to have preferences on certain things, hey if it works for you...use it, that's my motto. AN used to make a all-in-one and they still might(if I remember the name Ill add it). The problem with any single bottle product is separation or stratification. They also have 2 part systems that...really...just add water and go or you can get totally involved and tweak every little thing to your hearts content with their full line. I give them credit because whether you use it or not, everyone seems to know about it. Its not better or worse...its another option JAS
 

JonnyAppleSeed420

New Member
That's the stuff. I used their Grow and Bloom though their Grow would be just fine from beginning to end.
We are actually testing this product right now. I have 2 growers using part1 throughout and another 2 running both like they recommend. I guess we will find out how well this product works in our systems. JAS
 

JonnyAppleSeed420

New Member
No way. Nothing beats DG.
Maybe in your part of the world. Most of my growers that try DG and end up using other products. Most of which switched to Miracle Grow or House and Garden(there's a statement to their line of products). Were not talking about pimply faced punks, no these guys are hard-core and numbers mean everything. I tell everyone to use what works for them and don't worry about this and that. Knowledge is key to using any of these products properly JAS
 

homebrewer

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Maybe in your part of the world. Most of my growers that try DG and end up using other products. Most of which switched to Miracle Grow or House and Garden(there's a statement to their line of products). Were not talking about pimply faced punks, no these guys are hard-core and numbers mean everything. I tell everyone to use what works for them and don't worry about this and that. Knowledge is key to using any of these products properly JAS
I appreciate the good laugh my man ;).
 

JonnyAppleSeed420

New Member
I appreciate the good laugh my man ;).
Laugh if you want...but its a true statement. Our actual outcome from more than 10 growers and 8 different strains showed that an imbalance of micro's in DG's products and issues arose during the 6-8th week. From what I have been reading on here and other site, others have come to the same conclusions, you being a DG guy surely you have read this also. Doesn't mean it not a good product, just means experience is key with it also. I have one grower who swears by DG and produces awesome results...but same goes for the MG growers and the AN growers. I've seen your point of view and for some reason your using blinders with this nutrient discussion because you know as well as I do...its not the line its the grower. We all have preferences, results come from experience and a good non-bias teacher. JAS
 

homebrewer

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Laugh if you want...but its a true statement. Our actual outcome from more than 10 growers and 8 different strains showed that an imbalance of micro's in DG's products and issues arose during the 6-8th week. From what I have been reading on here and other site, others have come to the same conclusions, you being a DG guy surely you have read this also. Doesn't mean it not a good product, just means experience is key with it also. I have one grower who swears by DG and produces awesome results...but same goes for the MG growers and the AN growers. I've seen your point of view and for some reason your using blinders with this nutrient discussion because you know as well as I do...its not the line its the grower. We all have preferences, results come from experience and a good non-bias teacher. JAS
Do you have any lab data to back up that statement? From a mineral uptake perspective, can you please explain to us what changes all of a sudden once week 6 rolls around? This should be good for another laugh actually.
 

Dr. Who

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I do what Uncle Ben tells me. This is RIU. Get with the programme! ;) You either with SubCool or you with Uncle Ben....... Everyone hates Advanced Nutrients.

Advanced are ok..... just expensive. That's always the consensus among people who've tried it and don't go mental either way. It seems those are the three ways- 1) It's ok, just expensive. 2) Love AN and will get it tattooed on my kids face. 3) Will become enraged at the sight, smell and sound of advanced. Believe it is used by pedophiles and rapists.

I fall into category 3. I believe all AN users to be pedos or rapists. The Illuminati are behind them...... if you mix the nutrients in a backwards order your plants will chant while sacrificing babies.

I run GH Flora and Botanicare additives. Fuck the booster. All hydro. Ha! WHAT NUTES YOU RUN?!!!
I guess that the owner IS a pedophile!
 

JonnyAppleSeed420

New Member
Do you have any lab data to back up that statement? From a mineral uptake perspective, can you please explain to us what changes all of a sudden once week 6 rolls around? This should be good for another laugh actually.
My "lab data" as you call it is..."Hands on" I went to school to get the basics, hands on teaches you the real world. Not only myself but 15 other growers all compile information to better all our grows. Read all the data you want my friend but experience...hands on experience will tell you a lot more than ingredients on the bottle. You should research this...here's a hint, its not the ingredients but how they react to each other that is causing these issues late in flower....Now smart guy that laughs all the time tell me....what ingredients are not compatible.....Its so easy to figure out....take your blinders off and have a close look. JAS
 

homebrewer

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My "lab data" as you call it is..."Hands on" I went to school to get the basics, hands on teaches you the real world. Not only myself but 15 other growers all compile information to better all our grows. Read all the data you want my friend but experience...hands on experience will tell you a lot more than ingredients on the bottle. You should research this...here's a hint, its not the ingredients but how they react to each other that is causing these issues late in flower....Now smart guy that laughs all the time tell me....what ingredients are not compatible.....Its so easy to figure out....take your blinders off and have a close look. JAS
A lot of things 'work' but unless you have the data to understand WHY something is working, you're a slave to the next shiny bottle promising to make things 'work' a little better.
 

JonnyAppleSeed420

New Member
No...a lot of things work in the right hands. I thought for sure you would know what the hell I was talking about...but I guess not. I don't mean anything by that, its just that with all I have read from you on the subject of Dyna I thought you were either employed or had an in at the plant. When we were invited to take the tour, we spoke to this issue and explained our findings, they were well aware of the issues and were trying to find a compatible product. Problem they seem to be having is the same as every other manufacture out there...red tape. Like I said they all have baggage and its this baggage that ya'll seem to be fighting over. JAS
 

homebrewer

Well-Known Member
No...a lot of things work in the right hands. I thought for sure you would know what the hell I was talking about...but I guess not. I don't mean anything by that, its just that with all I have read from you on the subject of Dyna I thought you were either employed or had an in at the plant. When we were invited to take the tour, we spoke to this issue and explained our findings, they were well aware of the issues and were trying to find a compatible product. Problem they seem to be having is the same as every other manufacture out there...red tape. Like I said they all have baggage and its this baggage that ya'll seem to be fighting over. JAS
Have you been doing a lot of reading with your two week old account? I'm just wondering when you'd have time with your ten posts per day.
 

haulinbass

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Are you seriously nit picking the little things with his statement and not reading them as a whole? Dude flat out said the grower and knowing what to use makes the difference not the chemicals you throw at them. Get over it people let people be an quit pushing you one world we should all be the same mentality. Ive been a member here for years but cannot stand how noone will help or offer advice if your opinion differs, and its always over stupid shit.

Nothing is perfect, all products have flaws and All plant food is the byproduct of toxic waste from other industries.. buy what you can locally learn how to use it properly and have fun. Fuck ebay and online for wear and use items, support your local economy.
 
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