If you think homosexuality is an unnatural condition...

[Beefbisquit]

i was raised by gay parents and im straight

But how can that be????

If you were raised by gay parents, according to'thecoolman', you should be out engaging in unprotected group-sex with leather clad strangers (of the same sex mind you) while taking the lords name in vain.

 

[dannown]

Of course, there's plenty of social animals that simply can't reproduce (think of the worker bees). These little guys don't reproduce but are invaluable to the survival of the species. I'm not saying homosexuals are the worker bees in the hive of humanity, but it's wrong to say that every creature wants to pass on his own genes.

It's also bad thinking to say "If we were all of that ilk we would go extinct." Try to apply that to some other characteristics humans have. Being male? If we were all that way we'd go extinct! Males are defective! (Please note that I'm not necessarily saying males aren't defective, I'm just trying to point out that this is a pretty shoddy though experiment.)

 

[dannown]

Ooops! I didn't realize this thread had already degenerated. Remember, they will know we are christians by our love.

 

[tyler.durden]

Of course, there's plenty of social animals that simply can't reproduce (think of the worker bees). These little guys don't reproduce but are invaluable to the survival of the species. I'm not saying homosexuals are the worker bees in the hive of humanity, but it's wrong to say that every creature wants to pass on his own genes.

It's also bad thinking to say "If we were all of that ilk we would go extinct." Try to apply that to some other characteristics humans have. Being male? If we were all that way we'd go extinct! Males are defective! (Please note that I'm not necessarily saying males aren't defective, I'm just trying to point out that this is a pretty shoddy though experiment.)

Nice post, welcome to RIU and +rep...

 

[thecoolman]

"Calling an entire group of people immoral or sick and twisted, is considered condemnation. You're stating they're wrong, and their actions shouldn't be accepted by the public. That is being a bigot, you bigot."

....Society dictates morality and a large part of society thinks its immoral. I agree.


"Democracy enables the tyranny of the majority. Also, 85% of Americans believe that Angels are real, so that should tell you how fucking stupid most of America is. Appealing to the majority is also a logical fallacy, and doesn't validate your position regardless of the ignorance of your mistakes. What proof do you have that being raised by gay parents will alter your sexuality? Where is the study that demonstrates your hypothesis? Oh, you don't have one and you're just an uneducated bigot? Thought so..."

....Now you have proven yourself to be not only a classic bigot but a pos hypocrite.
It doesn't matter if you agree with Christians but your intolerance of others ideas
and opinions have proven you both a classic bigot and a hypocrite.

http://homosexualityandscience.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/research-shows-children-raised-by-homosexual-pare Of course its all common sense kids do best with both a mom and a dad.

 

[tyler.durden]

"Calling an entire group of people immoral or sick and twisted, is considered condemnation. You're stating they're wrong, and their actions shouldn't be accepted by the public. That is being a bigot, you bigot."

....Society dictates morality and a large part of society thinks its immoral. I agree.


"Democracy enables the tyranny of the majority. Also, 85% of Americans believe that Angels are real, so that should tell you how fucking stupid most of America is. Appealing to the majority is also a logical fallacy, and doesn't validate your position regardless of the ignorance of your mistakes. What proof do you have that being raised by gay parents will alter your sexuality? Where is the study that demonstrates your hypothesis? Oh, you don't have one and you're just an uneducated bigot? Thought so..."

....Now you have proven yourself to be not only a classic bigot but a pos hypocrite.
It doesn't matter if you agree with Christians but your intolerance of others ideas
and opinions have proven you both a classic bigot and a hypocrite.

http://homosexualityandscience.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/research-shows-children-raised-by-homosexual-pare Of course its all common sense kids do best with both a mom and a dad.

Not so fast, it seems as if that study you linked to not only by-passed the peer review process, but that three of the six reviewers had anti-gay agendas - http://chronicle.com/blogs/percolator/controversial-gay-parenting-study-is-severely-flawed-journals-audit-finds/30255

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zinnia-jones/regnerus-gay-parents_b_1725277.html

 

[thecoolman]

Now we all now if its in the huffington post/lbgt times it cant be trusted. After saying that its almost funny you try to discredit it from a blog by zinia jones a radical lgbt activist atheist/hard core lesbian activist...LOL

The study has been reviewed and is probably the largest and best ever done
With that being said its just common sense.

An exhaustive pre-investigation was conducted to determine whether a more comprehensive one would be necessary — this includes hiring independent consultant Alan Price, who formerly ran the Office of Research Integrity at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, to oversee the process.

After sequestering all of Regnerus’s correspondence and conducting both written and oral interviews with him and his accuser, Research Integrity Officer Robert Peterson wrote in an Aug. 24 memorandum, “None of the allegations of scientific misconduct put forth … were substantiated either by physical data, written materials, or by information provided during the interviews. Since no evidence was provided to indicate that the behavior at issue rose to a level of scientific misconduct, no formal investigation is warranted.” (2)
Regnerus was vindicated and cleared by University of Texas of all allegations. (3)
The unscientific backlash fails to undermine the significance of Regnerus’s study.

There is lots of bs attempts by the lgbt community to discredit it as they don't care about the truth. Kids do best when raised by both a man and a woman! Its just common sense.

 

[tyler.durden]

Now we all now if its in the huffington post/lbgt times it cant be trusted. After saying that its almost funny you try to discredit it from a blog by zinia jones a radical lgbt activist atheist/hard core lesbian activist...LOL

The study has been reviewed and is probably the largest and best ever done
With that being said its just common sense.

An exhaustive pre-investigation was conducted to determine whether a more comprehensive one would be necessary — this includes hiring independent consultant Alan Price, who formerly ran the Office of Research Integrity at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, to oversee the process.

After sequestering all of Regnerus’s correspondence and conducting both written and oral interviews with him and his accuser, Research Integrity Officer Robert Peterson wrote in an Aug. 24 memorandum, “None of the allegations of scientific misconduct put forth … were substantiated either by physical data, written materials, or by information provided during the interviews. Since no evidence was provided to indicate that the behavior at issue rose to a level of scientific misconduct, no formal investigation is warranted.” (2)
Regnerus was vindicated and cleared by University of Texas of all allegations. (3)
The unscientific backlash fails to undermine the significance of Regnerus’s study.

There is lots of bs attempts by the lgbt community to discredit it as they don't care about the truth. Kids do best when raised by both a man and a woman! Its just common sense.

You're right, that article is probably biased. Please let me know what you think of my first link in my last post -

http://chronicle.com/blogs/percolato...it-finds/30255

 

[thecoolman]

Its biased as well the lgbt activists are at it again.http://www.nas.org/articles/the_campaign_to_discredit_regnerus_and_the_assault_on_peer_review

The university study I referenced is the largest and most scientific one ever conducted and by a large margin at that.

 

[Grojak]

http://homosexualityandscience.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/research-shows-children-raised-by-homosexual-parents-have-more-problems-than-those-raised-by-married-heterosexual-parents/

"According to latest research, children raised by homosexual parents are more likely than those raised by married heterosexual parents to suffer from poor impulse control, depression and suicidal thoughts, require mental health therapy; identify themselves as homosexual; choose cohabitation; be unfaithful to partners; contract sexually transmitted diseases; be sexually molested; have lower income levels; drink to get drunk; and smoke tobacco and marijuana."


The highlighted section I do believe but it has nothing to do with who their parents are but has everything to do with what their parents are. It's the intolerant people like thecoolman who run around spreading their hate based "facts" and teaching their children the same kind of hate that are the problems with kids of same sex couples. Until we live in a tolerant, openminded society these kids will have the same problems but it's again not from parenting it's from bullying at school, fuck I would have had a heyday back in school if I had a same sex kid in my class, not my fault I was raised to hate but unlike some I matures, I grew as a person and no longer see the world from those same hate filled eyes.

We don't need to do any type of research to find the intolerant bigots of the world, thats simple, but the hate mongers will always try to hide behind "science and data" argue their hate. Follow the money and you'll find the agenda of those funding any poll or research.

[h=1]Mark Regnerus, University Of Texas Professor....
that is all you need to read to know this is a republican, christian funded research that will not accept any results that differ from. Reading this guys bullshit... that he only found 2 Lesbian couples that had a lengthy relationship, I'm guessing all research was done in Texas... why not it represents the other 49 states perfectly LOL. [/h]
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/10/30/1110591/regnerus-admits-gay-parenting/ Regenserus even says his study is fucked up because of wording he used and that.

"Regnerus even admits “this is not about saying gay or lesbian parents are inherently bad,” because he knows has no foundation on which to make such a claim. This was a study about unstable couples, possibly in sham marriages, who may have dabbled in same-sex relationships outside of their original marriage at a time when there was no recognition for same-sex couples anywhere in the country. In others words, the study’s results have zero implication for conversations in 2012 about out, committed same-sex couples who are already raising children."


Hate on brother, hate on!!!

 

[Grojak]

A copy of the survey questions would be nice to read... see how things were worded, questions asked.. anyone can draw conclusions from data but a veteran knows how to manipulate that data to sound "better"

 

[Beefbisquit]

http://homosexualityandscience.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/research-shows-children-raised-by-homosexual-parents-have-more-problems-than-those-raised-by-married-heterosexual-parents/

"According to latest research, children raised by homosexual parents are more likely than those raised by married heterosexual parents to suffer from poor impulse control, depression and suicidal thoughts, require mental health therapy; identify themselves as homosexual; choose cohabitation; be unfaithful to partners; contract sexually transmitted diseases; be sexually molested; have lower income levels; drink to get drunk; and smoke tobacco and marijuana."


The highlighted section I do believe but it has nothing to do with who their parents are but has everything to do with what their parents are. It's the intolerant people like thecoolman who run around spreading their hate based "facts" and teaching their children the same kind of hate that are the problems with kids of same sex couples. Until we live in a tolerant, openminded society these kids will have the same problems but it's again not from parenting it's from bullying at school, fuck I would have had a heyday back in school if I had a same sex kid in my class, not my fault I was raised to hate but unlike some I matures, I grew as a person and no longer see the world from those same hate filled eyes.

We don't need to do any type of research to find the intolerant bigots of the world, thats simple, but the hate mongers will always try to hide behind "science and data" argue their hate. Follow the money and you'll find the agenda of those funding any poll or research.

Mark Regnerus, University Of Texas Professor....
that is all you need to read to know this is a republican, christian funded research that will not accept any results that differ from. Reading this guys bullshit... that he only found 2 Lesbian couples that had a lengthy relationship, I'm guessing all research was done in Texas... why not it represents the other 49 states perfectly LOL.


http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/10/30/1110591/regnerus-admits-gay-parenting/ Regenserus even says his study is fucked up because of wording he used and that.

"Regnerus even admits “this is not about saying gay or lesbian parents are inherently bad,” because he knows has no foundation on which to make such a claim. This was a study about unstable couples, possibly in sham marriages, who may have dabbled in same-sex relationships outside of their original marriage at a time when there was no recognition for same-sex couples anywhere in the country. In others words, the study’s results have zero implication for conversations in 2012 about out, committed same-sex couples who are already raising children."


Hate on brother, hate on!!!

"Founded in 1973, The Heritage Foundation is a research and educational institution—a think tank—whose mission is to formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense. We believe the principles and ideas of the American Founding are worth conserving and renewing. As policy entrepreneurs, we believe the most effective solutions are consistent with those ideas and principles. Our vision is to build an America where freedom, opportunity, prosperity, and civil society flourish."



So basically it's a bunch of Christians with Agenda's, and a hate for anything anti-bible. Seems very reputable... lol

 

[Grojak]

^^^ exactly

 

[sunni]

But how can that be????

If you were raised by gay parents, according to'thecoolman', you should be out engaging in unprotected group-sex with leather clad strangers (of the same sex mind you) while taking the lords name in vain.

lol my family is very strict roman catholic my mom is a lesbian and her sister is one as well, but their parents and grandparents still loved them the same my family shows nothing but love
now that we have little kids in our family they see it as no different than mom and dad is truly an amazing thing that they have no hate or prejiduce against my mom and her wife they just call them auntie and zia (aunt in italian) theyre not taught that its right or wrong or taught about the specifics of the relationship justlike how they arent taught about the specifics of their parents love life, they just see mom and dad love each other, auntie and zia do too

its beautiful really

 

[sunni]

and before any anti gay people go on about how we can "expose" this to children, children dont watch their parents making out or having sex and they dont see that from my parents either, we are not exposing them to anything but a wonderful loving family and thats what children need gay OR straight , a loving family is what children need

 

[Zaehet Strife]

If you were raised being taught that gays are an abomination, that is what you will think.

Uneducated, indoctrinated, mentally abused, that is what you will stand for.

There are over 1,500 recorded animals across the world which are homosexual, including human animals. Think about that, take it in, real deep.




Fucking stupidity, lack of empathy and understanding, too many humans in this world like that, makes me sick. Fucking assholes.

 

[Beefbisquit]

What's really disgusting is people attempting to disguise their bigotry as some sort of moral high ground.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Whats really fucked up is intolerant assholes like you. Anyone that disagrees with you must be full of hate.
No one can have morals different than yours. Your head is stuck so far up your ass its not surprising you cant think.

Intolerant? Being intolerant of someone else's intolerance is completely acceptable, you dingus.

Dummy doesn't accept gays - intolerant.

Person who accepts gays, doesn't accept dummies non accepting perspective - tolerant of gays, intolerant of dummy assholes intolerance

That's how it works in the real world where adults live and accept people based on who they are and not on their sexuality and who they might love, you intolerant assdouche.

Welcome to the real world

 

[smokinafatty]

Or pedophilia... animals don't even consider the age of their fk buddies. (Just rustling some feathers on my fellow animal friends)

 

[Jerry68W]

and before any anti gay people go on about how we can "expose" this to children, children dont watch their parents making out or having sex and they dont see that from my parents either, we are not exposing them to anything but a wonderful loving family and thats what children need gay OR straight , a loving family is what children need

Please don't defend your family to them or anyone else, you don't need to.



I've added a couple names from this thread to my ignore list, and I'd like to take this opportunity to invite anyone who thinks being gay is a defect, or that they need to in some way fight off the gays, PLEASE add me to your ignore list as well.

I am gay. I am married to a great and smart guy whom I love, and our marriage is federally recognized (about fucking time). We are home owners. We are happy and healthy, as well as functioning and contributing members of our community...you know, kinda like "normal" people.

I will not discuss the merits of my existence nor will I answer any gay related questions. I just want the remaining homophobes of RIU to leave me the fuck alone, and I ask that you please do it by adding me to your ignore list if you happen to be a raging homophobe idiot.

Thank you