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robro

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Actualy, i Learned from FDD2BLK that Carnivorous Guano's are good. hell, Great even. Carnivorous bat guano, Cat feces and dog feces (if composted) supply tonnes of N and K to plants....



No actualy, soils range a HUGE amount. the Soils in my area (Pine forest) are around 5.7, where as the Soils in an Equatorial Rainforest are closer to 8..... Different plants need different things.....



Only certain varieties of Kelp and Alfalfa are used for agricultural use. all of Which have had a full analysis done of the nutrients involved.... like i said before, Different plants need different things.

To be Honest, you should RESEARCH before opening your mouth..... look to the left, Below my Avatar, see the Journal entries: 1... Go there... learn....



those are from the University of Montana, Nutrient Management Program. Read them and learn how plants work, it will save you alot of stress in the long run....

P.S: Just for the record, Farmers have been "Balancing the soil" AKA Balancing the PH levels for hundreds of years. thats why in the 1300's English farmers would rotate crops using the 3 Crop system..... Every 2 years the crops would be rotated and mulch would be added the the one field not being used... to add nutrients and balance the PH
It is very unlikely that farmers 700 years ago would know anything about balancing the pH levels of their soils.Of course,they knew about fertilisation,hence Crop Rotation and leaving a field fallow for a while to recouperate.But stating that they knew about pH is nonsensicle,seeing as it wasnt discovered until 1909,by a Danish bloke called Sorenson.So,just for the record,this PS is mostly just a guess and should be taken with a pinch of salt.
 

robro

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ah man was just going to say this that's why they people in Europe had to rotate corn crops. Just a little history lesson bet you didn't know that the Industrial Revolution in Great Britain is due to the introduction of the Potato to the diet in Europe. When people grow corn it takes alot of nutrients out of the soils and such which is why they rotate (we all know this, just clarifying). Once the potato was introduced they were now able to plant in all their fields without problems of rotating thus they could produce more food. Once they started producing more food their population BOOMEd I don't know the statistics off hand but there is a huge coorelation between the introduction of the Potato and the population boom. anyways now that they don't have a scarce food and are able to maintain bigger populations and essentially have time to do other things than just farm food... the Industrial Revolution was born..

Sorry that was my morning rant to go with my coffee and blunt.
Happy growings..

Oh BTW Teas ROCK! I used to make em just for my MJ now they get jealous because all my plants and garden get them :)

Just curious what does everyone do with the sludge in the bottome of your teas? I just throw mine in the compost...
Appropriate that your name in RIU is SirLancelot,a fictitious knight of the fictitious Round Table.History lesson is a joke!
I am from England and have never heard of the potato being responsible for our Industrial Revolution.I was taught that it was coz of new machines being invented,exploitation of low paid workers being exploited by unscrupulous factory owners,etc,etc.Definitely not the humble spud.
Was the 1st and 2nd World Wars down to the potato then.coz there were more ppl to fight them?
I worked on a farm in the 1960`s when i was a lad,and crops were still rotated,you make out that we stopped rotating after the spud was introduced.
Not true.If all fields were used for planting,as you state,where would the animals graze?Youve not put much thought into your post,your just guessing.
If you are taught that in the USA,it is totally wrong.
I will concede that the introduction of the potato changed the staple diet in Britain from bread to spud,and allowed the population to expand coz if the wheat crop failed the spud was there as a back up.Ireland depended solely on the tattie,and when their crops failed in the mid 1800`s coz of blight,millions died and millions emigrated to the USA.Only for thousands of them to die fighting in your Civil War.
Saying that the potato was solely responsible for our I.R. is folly,as there were many other reasons,it was a time of change and invention,and you cant please all of the ppl all of the time.It had to happen,and still goes on to this day.Are all industrial disputes down to the potato?
If the inventor of anything eats potato,is that invention down to the tatty?Coz thats what you are saying.
Stick to growing weed pal,coz you know sweet FA about history.
 

robro

Active Member
:hump: dam rights man. one of the things people don't understand about Organics is the amount of nutrients marijuana can uptake. The salts in Synthetic fertilizers (Such as potassium Sulfide and Sodium Nitrate, both common ingredient for synthesizing hydro nutes.......) cause such harm to the soil and plants in larger doses that its almost inhumane :( some of the things i see people putting into their reservoirs is just sad....

Organics don't have any salts, any harmful acids or bases, any Harmful ingredients and most of all... Organics don't have to degrade the planet to grow plants (such a stupid thing...). Organics is sustainable which puts it FAR above any other methods ;)
These posts are a bit misleading.It suggests that you can put any amount of anything into teas,which is probably only true to a certain extent.
The post above this quote on same page should have been added also.
Too much nitrogen added to your flowering tea will still lock out potassium,so be careful,dont fall into the trap like i did.
I wish id never read these posts,it lulled me into a false sense of security about what i can put in my teas,and fucked my plants.
Im still a noob at this and tend to believe people who have been growing for years.
Less is best,i have learned that the hard way.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Chicken manure has more fire than DNA. I've used Mexican bat poo at 1/16 strength on fifth node and still got burn even with all the microbes!!! Just start light and read the plants.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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I have heard different thing about mycorrhizae in tea, that you should not put them in since they will only form in presence of roots. They may get digested or destroyed in a compost tea.
Really?! I add happy frog soil conditioner that's loaded with fungi to my teas!!! Luckily I transplant with it. How do they get destroyed?! Why don't they multiply? Is there anything you can add to teas to make them multiply?!
 

dirtsurfr

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Really?! I add happy frog soil conditioner that's loaded with fungi to my teas!!! Luckily I transplant with it. How do they get destroyed?! Why don't they multiply? Is there anything you can add to teas to make them multiply?!
I believe that's why you put molasses I it so they eat on it instead of each other...
 

GandalfdaGreen

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Really?! I add happy frog soil conditioner that's loaded with fungi to my teas!!! Luckily I transplant with it. How do they get destroyed?! Why don't they multiply? Is there anything you can add to teas to make them multiply?!
How do you use your HF soil conditioner? What do you mix it with?
 

st0wandgrow

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Really?! I add happy frog soil conditioner that's loaded with fungi to my teas!!! Luckily I transplant with it. How do they get destroyed?! Why don't they multiply? Is there anything you can add to teas to make them multiply?!
Increase the amount of fish hydrosylate, and decrease the amount of molasses that you use in your teas to create a more hospitable environment for fungal growth. A "pinch" of alfalfa meal is also recommended. No other food stocks necessary. Brew 18-20 hours. This is according to someone who's opinion I respect on the topic.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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Damn forgot to check back. Good info stow. I wonder if the tea is more efficient than the brown rice "fungal cake", which takes me a good week to collect.
 

boblawblah421

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Has anyone ran strictly coco and all organic teas?!
Honestly, I have stopped buying coco. There is some in my compost, but it's the coco chips, not the pith, and it's been composting for a while now.

However, I bet that coco/lava rock or expanded shale may be the best way to make use out of some veg/bloom specific guano teas.

Maybe include some bentonite, oyster shell, and/or rock dusts to keep them rusty spots away.
 

OrganicOnly

New Member
Awesome thread :clap: Been learning so much on the site since I joined have almost completely changed my whole grow. Props to all the true organics growers maybe one day I too will be able to teach the class but for now I will be sitting in the front row diligently taking notes.
 
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