echelon1k1
New Member
Really? Obama didn't take it as a "cheap shot"... He actually devoted a whole speech in Philadelphia, 2008 while campaigning, to defend his buddies racism... Much like you do here...
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Really? Obama didn't take it as a "cheap shot"... He actually devoted a whole speech in Philadelphia, 2008 while campaigning, to defend his buddies racism... Much like you do here...
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
OMFG are you retarded?
the quote you gave was in summer 2012, many years after he walked away from reverend wright.
obama's speech in 2008, "a more perfect union", was widely regarded as a brilliant speech about race in america.
[video=youtube;pWe7wTVbLUU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU[/video]
how far detached from reality are you miserable fucks?
Dr Kynes
Well-Known Member
ahh yeas, the old refrain. Two Violent Felonies is one thing, but when they commit another felony, even if it's "non violent" they should be forgiven due to their "Tragic SES"
and the "stole a slice of pizza" guy didnt snatch a slice off the counter and run, he attacked an 8 year old child, pushed him to the ground, and ROBBED the kid i guess "assault with intent to do bodily harm, and Robbery" are Non-violent infractions where you come from bucky.
and Jerry DeWayne Williams' story gets even wierder.
This week, the Los Angeles Times ran a bizarre feature on Jerry DeWayne Williams. The gist is that Williams is a victim of three-strikes even though he was not subjected to it. It is apparently enough that the law exists for Williams to continue to feel victimized by it. The reporter calls this serving a “life sentence” of having to abide by the law:
“I walk on eggshells,” [Williams] said. “Any little thing that I do, I could be back for the rest of my life.”
Strangely, however, not even that claim holds up under scrutiny. Williams has received lenience repeatedly since the pizza incident, a fact that neither he nor the reporter seem to view as a contradiction of his profound feeling of victimization. One of his subsequent crimes was even a threat of violence:
in September 2003, his girlfriend called 911 and reported that Williams was verbally abusing her. A police officer arrived to find Williams moving out after a fight and demanding $150 he had paid toward the bills. As the officer looked on, Williams told his girlfriend: “I’m going to put a bullet in your ass if I don’t get my money.”
A prosecutor and a judge let him off:
Williams, who was unarmed, was arrested and charged with making a criminal threat, a felony that could have landed him back in prison for life. But Kings County prosecutors did not treat the crime as a third strike. Williams pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor and was released from jail after 17 days.
And then he immediately broke the terms of his probation upon leaving prison, again with no consequences:
As part of his sentence, he was barred from leaving Kings County without permission. Nevertheless, Williams moved to Moreno Valley to live with another sister. An arrest warrant was issued and remains active.
And then again:
Since landing in Moreno Valley, he has been arrested once — for being drunk in public — but was released without charges being filed.
How on earth does the reporter square such facts with his depiction of Williams as a desperate, haunted man peering nervously over his shoulder, terrified of the slightest slip-up? He was not afraid to violate his probation. Twice. He was not afraid to threaten to murder someone — in front of a policeman. He doesn’t sound particularly frightened at all. He sounds as if he knows that he can avail himself of a passel of silk-stockinged civil liberties attorneys any time a knucklehead cop dares to take him in for attacking a woman, or some other offense.
He sounds as if he knows that his notoriety has placed him above the law.
In one of the many courtrooms, Williams has been sentenced in, a prosecutor “unfurled a computer printout of Williams’ criminal history that extended from his outstretched arm to the floor,” and yet Williams is not behind bars. Considering the gang and drug activities that consumed his earlier years, the threat of three-strikes has probably saved his life, but he is far too busy whining to be grateful.
~http://crimevictimsmediareport.com/?p=2699
and
yes, i do support the Three Strikes Law.
previous conviction of TWO VIOLENT FELONIES should be a pretty good indication of whether the target can be a fairly good indicator of an offender's likelihood to re-offend.
leftist dolts who live in oregon dont have to experience the effects of crime, so for you, it's all just "Somebody Else's Problem" isnt it?
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
not surprising.
In Florida, female offenders were rarely sentenced using three-strikes policies – however, when the females were African American, they were more likely to be sentenced under habitual offender laws. When examining the intersectionality between age, race, sex, and employment status while controlling for legal factors, young Black and Hispanic males faced greater chances of imprisonment than middle-aged White males.[SUP][47][/SUP] Evidence shows that judges would often include stereotypes and characteristics of subgroups in order to apply the three-strikes laws.
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
oh, and i live in san jose, right at the intersection of the east valley and west.
you're gonna have to update your rhetoric accordingly, since living among minorities is not imbuing me with the same amount of racial resentment and hatred that you carry with you at all times.
echelon1k1
New Member
The quote from Obama was from March 18, 2008...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/18/us/politics/18text-obama.html?pagewanted=print&_r=0
you really need to stop sniffing "axe"... No wonder you sleep so much...
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
and the reverend wright quote you posted was from july 2012 or 2013, you fucking idiot.
about half a decade too late, dipshit.
echelon1k1
New Member
Defending racism again bucky? that white guilt must burden you so...
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
no, i was correcting your inaccuracies and stupidity, you pedophile apologist.
squarepush3r
Well-Known Member
OMFG what a special kind of stupid you are.
let's just take one of those many, many claims: the economy is losing 350,000 jobs a month.
citation needed.
as far as obama cutting the deficit more than in half, that is common knowledge among the non-retarded (in other words, not you).
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]1996[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$107.5 Billion Deficit[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$160.21 Billion Deficit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]1997[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$22 Billion Deficit[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$32.07 Billion Deficit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]1998[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$69.2 Billion Surplus[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$99.28 Billion Surplus[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]1999[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$125.6 Billion Surplus[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$176.16 Billion Surplus[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]2000[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$236.4 Billion Surplus[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$320.76 Billion Surplus[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]2001[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$127.3 Billion Surplus[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$168.16 Billion Surplus[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]2002[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$157.8 Billion Deficit[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$205.2 Billion Deficit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]2003[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$377.6 Billion Deficit[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$479.8 Billion Deficit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]2004[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$413 Billion Deficit[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$511.14 Billion Deficit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]2005[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$318 Billion Deficit[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$380.84 Billion Deficit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]2006[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$248 Billion Deficit[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$287.7 Billion Deficit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]2007[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$161 Billion Deficit[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$181.51 Billion Deficit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]2008[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$459 Billion Deficit[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$498.37 Billion Deficit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]2009[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$1413 Billion Deficit[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$1539.22 Billion Deficit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]2010[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$1294 Billion Deficit[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$1386.92 Billion Deficit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]2011[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$1299 Billion Deficit[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$1350.31 Billion Deficit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]2012[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$1100 Billion Deficit[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$1120.16 Billion Deficit[/TD]
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[TD="width: 47, align: left"]2013[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$759 Billion Deficit[/TD]
[TD="width: 164, align: left"]$759 Billion Deficit[/TD]
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http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php
as you can see, shrub left town with a $1.5 trillion dollar annual deficit as his legacy, and obama has since cut that deficit more than in half.
you're welcome.
last time i checked, the economy just added 148,000 jobs, and has added millions of jobs under obama during his 5 years in office despite the fact that he assumed the presidency at a time when we were losing quite a number of jobs.
so let's see you pull this magical number of 350,000 jobs lost a month, princess.
or maybe you can just compose another grammatically challenged, spittle covered rant about communism.
time will tell.
actually your data just proved you holes in your argument. I love how when you talk about debt to Obama supporters, they change the subject to deficit. Regardless, if you look at Bush's years, except for his final and 8th year, his average deficit was $363 Billion. If you look at Obama's average deficit per year, its $1153 Billion. Even if you factor in all 8 years of Bush, including the final year which was a data anomaly, Bush's average deficit was $510 Billion, still less than half of Obama's.
Thanks for the data!
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
do you think deficits appear out of thin air?
that $1.5 trillion deficits can be magically followed by another clinton surplus?
squarepush3r
Well-Known Member
Sometimes parents have to make hard decisions and say "no" to their children. Imagine if you caved in to everything your kids asked for? I imagine you would be in some serious debt (or deficit, whichever you prefer)!
Anyways, Obama doesn't need to have a surplus, but him even having something that wasn't an average of double Bush's, it would have been much better to control our ballooning debt. A leader has to be brave enough to say no.
Dr Kynes
Well-Known Member
aww you mean you moved to san jose and didnt become an evil racist the first week?
in 10 or 20 years youll finally start to see what im talking about you fool.
you cannot even comprehend what real crime is until you get a pistol shoved in your face a few times in armed robberies...
and i can guarantee you, in san jose, the perps will not be "Crackahs".
Dr Kynes
Well-Known Member
Non-Sequitur.
more "That's Racist" horse shit in an unattributed quote from Wiki-Mother-Fucking-Pedia no less.
was the Huffpo Blogoshpere unable to provide you with just the right nugget of pseudo-profundity to "put me in my place"?
man, that Wiki-Mother-Fucking-Pedia is irrefutable.
plus since i totally live in florida, and am a judge in florida, and have deliberately used harsh sentences as my own personal revenge against black chicks, this is particularly damning.
BRB, i gotta OD on Prilosec, thats my "Only Way Out" of your stunning Intellectual Checkmate
ohh man, unless i die laughing first.
ChesusRice
Well-Known Member
You mean like medicare Part d and the Iraq war
What makes that lame cartoon funny is the TRUTH.
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
we'll see if, after a year of living here, i become a massive racist like you.
apparently i just haven't had enough time to drink in that smug attitude of derision towards minorities that so comforts and soothes you.
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
how does that not follow?
you say you support three strike laws, i snip a little tidbit (with alphanumeric citation, no less) about the problems associated with them, and you devolve into hysterics under the mighty weight of mundane facts.
maybe after a year or two of living among all these minorities, i will discover the need, as you have, to defend against this impending threat of multiculturalism and give my support to horrible laws.
hell, maybe i might even take a liking to mandatory minimums while i'm at it.
echelon1k1
New Member
why defend O's racist friends? Citation needed if you claim I apologise on your behalf...