Dr Kynes
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unless belize's banks do not make financial transactions with other banks around the world, those treaties WILL get them eventually.
dont be a dipshit.
If government provides "services" that are so good, why do they have to use force ?
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dont be a dipshit.
Dr Kynes
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there are still a few places which refuse to participate in the IRS' international banking extortion plans, but they are few and far between, and the depositor has to pay handsomely to enjoy the protections.
see4
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You are lying. Prove your statement with facts.
Let's see, that's not entirely accurate. Your Rep Power is 110, so you inflated it by 500 points.
Aren't you the one who is routinely calling other members liars?
Maybe you're "too stupid" to understand numbers? Now go fucking cry!
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-08/secret-swiss-accounts-said-no-longer-safe-for-tax-dodging.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/08/28/a_new_agreement_between_switzerland_and_the_u_s_would_disclose_details_of.html
Any more questions little boy? Some big words in these articles, hopefully you can keep up. Ask mommy for help if not.
ginwilly
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You must be very young. Even the term Swiss bank account was in pop culture and elicited pretty much the same image for all of us. A rich guy hiding his money from the US government.
Doer
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Must be your upper lip. They have plenty of Treaties, just not these. I'm surprised at the hole in your knowledge, but not with the cat spiting. No one has backed you into any corner.
Maybe educate yourself, before you make predictions in Global Finance about what you seem to know not.
Are you actually suprised that the USA is not all powerful, all over. The Tangos are howling with laughter. They have their own private banking, stateless and secret.
Off shore banking has not been penetrated. All Europe, ie, Swiss, Liechtenstein are compromised. But, Charlie, not all the world.
Not India or Belize, Singapore and a few others. And of course, they still conduct International Banking with the Tax Signatory Countries. But, it is only numbered accounts. They are just not open to scrutiny, by the IRS, FBI, DEA, etc, and they did not take the drug enforcement money.
Simple as that.
Doer
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Last I checked it was $50K deposited, gets you a Passport as a Citizen of Belize. Have to be there once a year and other simple things.
They have no Tax Treaties or Banking Treaties with the USA but they do have their own laws. You play ball, your Rights are protected under their law.
And they speak English and so are the Laws.
Now, they get you with enormous duties on some certain, very nice things. Like those Yamaha 150 hp, outboard motors...if new. But, the locals don't have to pay duty on that stuff...wink, wink...and some happy money all around.
That is all conjecture on whether or not they would collect, the fact remains that you STILL OWE IT!! That is what is in contention, not the fact that you can hide it. The law of a US citizen doesn't stop just because some other cou8ntry doesn't want to recognize it. Ask a IRS agent that if you went to Belize as a US citizen and made $10 million, whether or not you would owe US taxes on that, I can guarantee she is going to tell you yes.
Dr Kynes
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as soon as some squimp gets an offer of a couple million from the IRS, they will roll over and rat out those banks too.
eventually the IRS WILL get their way, and nothing can stop them until some nation which doesnt need the US's financial institutions stands up and says NO directly.
that isnt gonna happen anywhere as far as i can see.
any banking haven is only temporary as long as the world's finances are intertwined, with all roads leading to washington and new york.
nations and banks on the periphery may be the last ones targeted, but the spider will patrol his web and eventually all those who are caught in it will be sucked dry.
Doer
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Well, I don't take sides. So let us turn to the prohibition aspect. You think this inter-national banking community is not at serious loan to value risk? And is this risk not backed by the full faith and credit of the USA?
So, when prohibition is tried, the money pours, to the dark side. Doer
I don't think you understand what truly secret, double blind, numbered accounting really is. Impenetrable. The rollover with the IMF, IRS tax treaty stuff is big money about the war on drugs. For that these, formally secret banking institutions applied tags and tracks and ways to pierce anonymity.
That has to be relinquished in Treaty in exchange for goodies. Then it is set in place.
So, that is the point. Secret banking actually is. It is secret from the bank employees, govt officials, judges, everyone. So, this has been in place now and is not assailable. The money is pouring to the dark side, for safety. These havens are fat with nontaxable dough. They just can't be in Greece. Singapore is fine.
You cannot ban alcohol, tobacco, drugs or secret banking. You can try. You can make believe the USA has succeed on this or will eventually. I think not.
So, when prohibition is tried, the money pours, to the dark side. Doer
I don't think you understand what truly secret, double blind, numbered accounting really is. Impenetrable. The rollover with the IMF, IRS tax treaty stuff is big money about the war on drugs. For that these, formally secret banking institutions applied tags and tracks and ways to pierce anonymity.
That has to be relinquished in Treaty in exchange for goodies. Then it is set in place.
So, that is the point. Secret banking actually is. It is secret from the bank employees, govt officials, judges, everyone. So, this has been in place now and is not assailable. The money is pouring to the dark side, for safety. These havens are fat with nontaxable dough. They just can't be in Greece. Singapore is fine.
You cannot ban alcohol, tobacco, drugs or secret banking. You can try. You can make believe the USA has succeed on this or will eventually. I think not.
yktind
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Not sure why everyone associates slavery with America. FYI Slaves were sold to America from Africa. Which was apart of the daily life over there. American people did not create slavery.
Just a fun little list of facts:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery#Africa
Okay sorry for the interruption please continue not solving any problems and talking about nothing.
see4
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Interesting concept. So because slavery was not "invented" here, that somehow makes it ok? Is that what you are implying? You have solved nothing and have said nothing, except only that you are telling us you think slavery is ok. Good job racist.
yktind
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That made me lol ^----
Did I say I loved slavery? No... Simply pointing out that it wasn't racist white Americans that created slavery like everyone loves to talk about.
Rob Roy
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Paying taxes? Okay let's examine this.
In a free market, free people decide who will provide them with a given service and choose among several or many service providers. In a forced tax situation, no choice exists.
In a free market, it is known to the service provider that you can take your business elswhere, this provides the service provider with INCENTIVE to do a good job. In a regulated and coercive situation, (tax) removing the choice of where a person can take their business (governments don't permit competition with them) creates a monopoly backed by force or the threat of it for noncompliance.
Charging people for walking down a street? People should only be able to charge others for things the others willingly contracted for. In your tax situation this FREEDOM to contract or not contract is removed. When somebody MUST pay you or else, you've used a business model perfected by the mafia.
As far as charging you for "the light". No, I wouldn't do that, because I don't think you see the light, I think you're in the dark.
MuyLocoNC
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Yeah, as soon as I read see4's post, I tried to see where he thought you said "slavery is ok". Couldn't find it, so I looked for where you might have made a racist comment. Couldn't find that either.That made me lol ^----
Did I say I loved slavery? No... Simply pointing out that it wasn't racist white Americans that created slavery like everyone loves to talk about.
I guess you might not be a racist. But, see4 is certainly a typical liberal, screaming racism at anything or anyone that disagrees with his partisan viewpoint. Is douchebag too strong a term for him?
ChesusRice
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NO it was only racist white Americans that perpetuated it hereThat made me lol ^----
Did I say I loved slavery? No... Simply pointing out that it wasn't racist white Americans that created slavery like everyone loves to talk about.
I agree, I was just responding to one of our race baiting resident progressives.
Rob Roy
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Were all slave owners white?
Define what makes a person a slave and what makes them free? Are people "more free" or "less free" than they were 40 years ago?
ChesusRice
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Free to do what?