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Preach it, LED's aren't there yet. Way too much cost wise for perceived quality.

Preach it. I'm beginning to see the light more and more. LED's just aren't there yet. I'm probably just going to dim my lumatek down to 400 this summer and maybe supplement with LG or Vipar led

What would be their equivalent to 600w hid? Their web site offers shit as far as info

Ok thanks for link. If the at600 covers 4x4, that means the at200 will cover 2x2? For $1100? Uh....I'm starting to not like the pricing to go led pretty quickly.

At200? I've only seen the at120 on their site. What could I buy from apache that would be equivalent to 600w hid in a 4x4x7?

Yeah brotha, we hear ya but everytime I go the A51 site, their lights are either out of stock or on backorder until sometime 2014. Doesn't bode well for people who want to buy.

280 watt/watts....I get it Just sayin, that is a very steep price point, like most other supposedly "legit" LED's....AKA Non Chinese Made. I went to the Plant Photonics site and liked what I was seeing and reading until I saw the prices.

The 280 watt model costs $1342 USD. That's a whole lotta cash for 280 actual watts..

I'm just sayin'..... Maybe it's better at this time to Fly-Under-The Radar?

Hey bruh, I don't know who's side your on but it's your money that could go up in flames. So join the other idiots and have a pity party when ur shit don't show up.

SO QUIT FUCKING TALKING ABOUT STEALTH / SHIPPING / SHIPMENTS If you need to calm your anxiety about anything overseas maybe PM a long timer here. Matter of fact, Admin/Mods should delete or even disallow these kinds of threads anymore. I just read a thread that I won't name here where a couple...

Keep it rockin' FeNux, ride it all the way to harvest.

Did you manage to get $2400 bones together?

I'm thinking of switching over to Jack's from FF Trio, growing in soil. So bottom line, should I buy the Blossom Booster or Citrus Feed for flowering stage?

Ah my bad then. Cool another option for LED on the Vanq

Sounds good brotha. I'm looking to buy a couple of these and want to know.

Right? An LED panel almost pushing 300 true watts and no heatsink? Maybe GroErr can chime in about this..

34 degrees is hot? Damn bro where do you live in the Arctic lol? I checked out your link and they show a much larger panel, looks similar to the Hans panel.

Who are you, Luke O'reilly? i Googled Luke and it looks like he's trying to sell his brand of LED's. The circle jerk continues....

Am I missing something? Where are the heatsinks located?