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Damn that is trippy lookin. You have a link for it so we can check out the full specs?

Never believe breeders listed Harvest Times as they almost always usually exceed stated time. Your plants are done when they're done, which include trich colors, fattening of buds, dying off/yellowing of fan leaves, reddening of pistils...etc. Your plants aren't close at this point but they do...

Lol, brotha we need to get your thread back on topic! Bottom line grow results of the Kind Led. Lookin good so far.

Smart way to go about it before dropping more serious coin.

Troll Alert: Same guy trying to bomb peoples threads and trying to slang his goods. Easy to spot his posts...

Is Querkle a slow vegger typically? Does it do well with topping and lst?

I'm still in the process of looking/researching as much as possible before making a substantial investment. I'm not inclined to wait around for a51 to have product in stock either nor I'm I interested in a 75 watter. What's catching my eye at the moment is the Kind, yes I know not a cult...

So are you guys admitting or saying that the Chinese led's on Ebay are just as good as a51, hans, apache and clw?

What brand led's are you using?

They already have the "Quantity Price Breaks" right next to the Add To Cart button, 4-7 panels gets a price break of $470 each instead of $525. Are you trying to say they will wheel and deal better than that? If so that could be the determining factor in me buying these over the Bud Boss 343.

Well I need LED now...so any futures that come out I'll just have to say fuck it lol. I've been looking at the Grow Evolution Bud Boss 343 even more. It has an actual 343w pull +/- 3%. So two of these in my 4x4 would almost give me 700w, not too damn bad. 1 unit retails at $599, but if I buy two...

Wow man, was looking promising until I read the cash only part.

Hi batcave, what brand of led panels are you rockin'?

HSO has excellent genetics, Blue Dream has very good yield and great clean type of high. Vigorous in veg and nice dense nugs in the end!

^^ True that, had mold once due to run away humidity. BTW, how are you liking the Vipar 5w?

Ah..Greengenes707 I saw your thread on the Blackberry and complimented your grow brotha, nice job! Since you use Apache, would you recommend the SGS as well? I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on four units to fit inside a 4x4 tent. Do you guys think this would be equivalent to about a 1000w HID?

So with the sgs you just veg with the white led's on? Then when you flip to 12/12 you hit the other switch for the reds?

Where are you guys getting this info anyways, I've been through all links on the a51 site and there is no mention of a new model. You would think they would have that info in their forum but they don't. But if it is June or July I'm not waiting that long. Where I live and in that time of the...

Nice write up monkeychief. As for myself, I'm looking to make the transition away from HID and into the LED game. I'm currently running 600w HID in 4x4 tent with usually 4-5 bushes by way of topping and heavy lst for my grow style. With a budget of around $1500-2000 what would you recommend?

That's some crazy shit man, awesome job.