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I understand that position. But there was too much bs associated with that situation. The Libbey conviction, the Plame outing (which was really hard-core, Chicago - yes "Chicago" - style politics), spying on Americans, Guantanomo, and rendition. So why should I believe there was anything...

how do you suggest we fix the problem? in my opinion, lobbying should be eliminated. taking the money out of public service is the only way to fix the problem. eliminating lobbying is only one aspect. campaign reform, filibuster reform, and education reform are some others. and the media ... I...

Joe Wilson made his African trip in Feb 2002 and submitted his report in March 2002. Valerie Plame was outed by Cheney et al in July of '03. Based on the Bush admin reaction to the report, it is obvious that they didn't want to gather intelligence and respond to it, they preferred to manipulate...

" ................... The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production. Saddam Hussein...

it is well established fact that bush lied. he lied about the yellow cake uranium purchases in Africa. it was joe wilson who was sent to Africa to investigate the African connection. his report came back negative. bush lied about this to the nation, in his state of the union address in jan 2003...

did they look like that before you fed? looks like nute burn. lights are probably good 'cause it's the lower leaves that are burned the most.

I disagree for the following reasons. The Bush regime lied and minipulated intelligence to justify Iraq - even to the point of outing a CIA agent in retaliation for a truly well-intended report in evidence against WMD. The current Republican caucus is voting "No" on every piece of Democratic...

looks interesting ... think I'll download the torrent and watch. based on this thread, it should be informative.

this again? idiot

perhaps they don't have a choice. not perhaps. but definitely, they don't have a choice. or they wouldn't be there. so what's your point, they should pay more taxes?

as the economic gap widens and the middle class begins to dissolve, so goes taxes. it is not unreasonable to expect that people who can't afford to live should pay no taxes. their income and wealth has found it's way to the upper tiers of the american economy. let those fuckers pay the tax -...

so like I said before, if banks are forced to make these loans, where are they now?

lame. so you're telling me that insurance companies will defiantly declare that, despite healthcare reform, they don't have to cover children (if they choose not to) and banks do what their community organizations dictate. well let me ask you this. there has been no wall street reform - at...

banks weren't forced to make sub-prime loans. it was totally voluntary. intelligent opinions are fine. ignorance is inexcusable.

is that you Glenn?

wrong. yes, the govt backed some sub-prime mortgages. you should rethink how that effected wall street. because it didn't. wall street sharks securitized these loans. hid them in a bundle and nobody new what what in these securities. then wall street created derivatives on the securities and...

when the ice melts it refreezes over a larger area, only thinner. you numb ones who deny global warming are blind fools

what the f___ :-? r u talking about ?

I wouldn't debate those 20 points with CJ either. The debate is pointless. My experience debating these issues has been unrewarding. Typically, the logic, relevance and/or validity of each point would be debated to the point of personal opinion. And after that, it becomes a war of insults.

so tell me again, who is talking about hate, guns, hunting, pissed off, violence and death. asshole.