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Ah gotcha lol guess I just saw 55 and went NOPE, I'm also considering led strips cuz in another thread was told they get way better coverage and are in the same price range, this is total speculation as I don't really know the penetration and spread of the respective lights but the better spread...

Thanks for lifting the curtain bro, personally I think they try to be like a knockoff of kind leds just in the design so people see the price and get Venus fly trapped lol (edit: it's my new opinion after more research, originally just saw them and they didn't look half bad

How's the penetration as well? Another somewhat important detail is I plan to probably grow 4 trees in the tent, would that be a major factor? Cuz idk virtually anything about the light penetration and spread of these lights. Cuz if they have a very good spread but can't go very deep that...

Thanks guys, I'll look into it tomorrow, when I say that I mean do what I did today and be like a horned lizard squirting blood out of my eyes cuz I legit went from 'what's a cob' to being able to build one if I was in a warehouse with no internet, cuz if you gonna do something don't half ass it...

I'll have to look into it, I learnt everything diy cob in a single day, too. Much. Information. Looks like I get to suffer tomorrow as well lol

Yeah 120 out of stock but it's like 19 per 133mm, that link says 55 apiece

Aw damn I was hoping for a nice easy go, it's seedsman btw dunno if that changes the situation, but it's not the legit blueberry by dj short I would imagine

You sure on that? I'd only need to veg for that and I made my eyes bleed looking up how to diy cob today, basing this off of HydroRed, he using only 4 for a 40x40 inch space veg and it's doing well

yeah I realised after the fact, 5 collectively raises the price I really just picked a random cob that looked like it fit the specs at first lol, i figured it wouldn't make a huge difference but wrong choices was 300+ before i knew what i do now. Alls I meant on the heatsink is its 20 bucks on...

I was actually thinking a 5 cob diy, be like 250 watts or so and a similar or less price

Yeah I was iffy about that because of trying to have an even canopy, wanting a couple choices won out over it tho, but they're all indica strains so hoping that's good enough, it also means the stretch will probably be minimal as far as it goes, assuming a double in height is pretty safe ain't...

Ok that makes more sense I looked at those cob chips but they were out of the 5k so I kept looking. ones I looked at were 15 bucks and I counted it for 5 of them cuz I feel a dice pattern would be a smidgen better and cobkits was out of the 185 driver so I went for the next size up in the...

I also gotta ask how everything was 200, looked up that stuff and I was hitting over 200 not counting frame and micro management stuff

Yeah that's the plan cuz I already had a ventilation system which goes hand in hand with hid, led to veg so I can perpetual harvest. All I meant was people going for led usually got reasons for it so pushing hid lights in a thread like this.. well there's better places to probably.

Height isn't too big a deal for me I was just worried about it at first cuz it was kinda like "ok got 6 feet, no wait lights, 5 feet, oh yeah pots 4 feet, wait can't burn them 2 feet" but I was just going into a spiral over thinking it, but 2-3 feet of budz :weed:

Nice, but leds cuz I'm already running an hid, and I'm pretty sure posting on an led thread gives ya a jehovas witness type vibe, no offense, just we wouldn't be here if we wanted to convert.

Do you mean you did that in veg or after switching to flower? I might be gaining like half a foot if I did that so it's more trouble than its worth cuz there's always gonna be some space between the two for the hanging system. I really want to get a perpetual so I can cut times in half cuz I'm...

Yo just piggybacking here, I'm thinking of getting a second tent for perpetual, 4x4 veg only, and was considering viparspectra, I've only got a 200-250 budget for a light and diy cobs I'm not opposed to but they're still pretty pricy, if I get that area covered and they cost around the same I'd...

Lol yeah, I made sure when the light is all the way up everything fits, there's like a foot and a half between the glass and the top of the tent cuz the ratchets and such, was hoping less so I'd have more grow height but oh well. (Although I think I did the ratchets backwards, idk which would be...

Ooooogh, my wallet is crying, I got like 200 to work with for a light maybe 250 tops. But when you say most common I assume that's for a setup that includes flowering as well, would it be safe to assume halving that would work for a veg setup? Thinking maybe 5 cobs in a dice pattern, and I've...