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Thanks . I will try to keep both. I think I will keep blue for start and supplement with the small 100w cfls that I have around the side and then switch after they stretch a bit. Then I can use this as a baseline. Appreciate all the help! :bigjoint:

Awesome I will check that out, id say if plants were bleaching then it would have plenty of power :fire:. I will also take your advice on lighting. Start blue, finish red. Is there a certain point when switching to red is best? like certain signs the plant is showing, pistils - trichromes etc...

you can get those cheap ones and they actually work good? they were trying to charge 200-500 bucks for a UFO style or slightly bigger at the hydro store ... I know led are cheap so I thought that was outrageous.. I know the cheap ones probably work but I thought it would be at a disadvantage to...

also I know both lights would probably be ideal, but my budget only allows for one big fixture at the moment

I have 200w CFL 6500k on right now... I think I should switch to my other for flowering, but I'm not sure. I have a 125w (I think) 2700k CFL I was going to use. I also have a few small cfls I can use for side lighting. I wanted to start flowering soon as I don't have enough light for them to be...

yeah I figured as much. thanks again for all your help. I know no way to tell exactly was just looking if there was a general rule of thumb.. but its ok I will find out. this is more a test run to see how I want to do my next grow. next time I will be buying feminized seeds. I couldn't afford...

I got a question.... if I start flowering when the nodes are about an equal length of 3 inches... will I get more vs if I wait? or a crap shoot?

yeah i know... I'm hoping at least 1 or 2 is a female... 3 look different from the other 1 ... so i wouldn't be surprisde with my luck it had nothing to do with it and it was all males.... but ok thanks. I'm hoping just for a little bit to see if I'm heading in the right direction.

Not at all, just don't want to make you go back and forth. I responded too quickly .

Ok awesome. Thanks so much. I am thinking 2 of them at least are males and other 2 are females based on what i researched on "pre-flowers' and so far as i can tell, they are more pointed and not seed looking on 2 of them, but no pistils obviously, then the other 1 is more seedish looking , and...

oh ok. i responded on other post... sorry for inconvenience.. maybe will explain my quandary

also I wanted to do all my topping in vegetative state before going to flowering... is that smart? or wrong?

not flowering yet, I just tried to respond to your post... I was going to start flower soon as the nodes get a little more developed... I thought that was the best thing to do... but I was wondering why you flowered early looking on yours atleast, when the plants are small.. I thought they only...

question for you, why does it look like you are flowing your plant when it is that small? (nobb here)

1 almost positive female.. 1 suspected female... 1 possible male... 1 unknown.. These things are growing crazy.. topped them to keep them under control... fed them nutes... looking great! soft and fluffy leaves... Super strong stems... 1 plant trying LST ... 1st grow going good so far

ooo la laaa!!!

Thanks. Didn't know if there was a special type or had to be powder form etc...

https://www.amazon.com/Viagrow-Control-Nutrient-Adjusting-Solution/dp/B01MTW8FGA/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1483454579&sr=8-10&keywords=ph+up+liquid+for+soil Would this be sufficient for soil adjustments and measuring?

disregard post... I have figured this out... transplanted and all is solved... it was nute lock caused by too much calcium... now the plants are healthier! Also flushed before transplant. Picture is from a few days ago.