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but the key bit is your running less watts It would be cool if i finally starting seeing people pull more down from less watts but even realstyle grow just hit the g/w bench mark and he has the best atm

it straight up has to do with how many watts your running not how nice and new your cobs are

i think what people need to understand is if you want say 400w worth hps weed then you'll need pretty close to 400w of led to do it and it'll still be 400w of heat to deal with

i know its not the ufo but do you notice anything? Like it's the same crappy chinese light...

Run it without starting your plants and check the temperature it's the only way to know for sure

it has to do with the cooling capability of the light ambient temps are important too but the fixture that houses the reds should stay as close to ambient to make it work while. Rather then finding a reliable fixture look into slapping a cob unit together like a 3000k Vero with some cheap pieces...

Red led are real touchy and need adequate chilling otherwise the red light output well go way down and your just generating heat these are the facts

Was wondering if you could do everyone a favor and throw up some comparisons of the mars vs cob grows like weight watts in watts out anything you liked better between the 2 possibly in led unite thread or some where it will be seen lots thank you and good growing

ok I'm pretty sure i mentioned the fan and ducting and it probably won't end there plus i believe the filter is optional i like my house smelling like dank

400w hps setup should flood that area with light but with that comes 400w of heat so you got to get fans and ducting and all those goodies but if your set on keeping your grow going it'll be well worth it and if you had the budget check out LEC 315

i think that's why he had worked on a variety it doesn't have to cost 4000 unless you want it too that's why led is diverse it can do what your looking for. I like what he's talking about I'm very much looking forward to seeing them!

Dissipated watts = weight?

i just sold my a51 because i can get more light for the price turd cutter you don't know your ass from a light that can actually grow. On a side note yes i think they have waited all to long to release this light

i think you get off on them bashing you that's why you continue to go out of your way to do it leave your shitty comments to yourself and hang out with your new buddy over in the twilight sponsor thread

Post Organic vs. Synthetic (Cleaner High) And Sunni's my ole lady :) how bouts we shut you down lol Post by: Darth Vapour, May 12, 2015 in forum: Organics ive always kinda wondered about this post ever since i saw the congratulations thread

I think i like Amaretech better then BML. You guys still crack me up with the apache light shout outs,the only apache worth it is the 600. As far as BML numerous people said it runs to hot so shitty red output and Amaretech at least had some respectable people using them

Don't get me wrong GG has a sweet light coming out but he has ran into some delays and hopefully we will see them by the end of the month. Regardless he was interested in the Amaretech light and I've seen other talk about them can we find any valuable info for the man?

wrong section and none of those lights. For the price of any one of those lights you can get a nice light that will throw out just as many photons as a hps. If you don't understand what I'm saying keep reading up on light it takes more then just blue and red to grow big plants

nice! lots better then the mars run