1000w Coco Multi-strain Medicinal Grow

420Marine

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T0rn he's a linux nut like me only a million times better if I suggest he make it a program he'll go full bore and probably do a release of it himself....but if he doesn't you def get one.
 

Snow Crash

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when you say you figure by volume though do you mean the total number of ml of total solution to that of total ml of water.
I mean you take X amount of water. Lets say you use 1 gallon. That's ~3780ml. Then to it you add 22ml of nutrients (total). The final solution is 3802ml.

Just so I've covered my own ass here... The following example is an approximation of nutrient levels available. They represent what can be at best considered "ballpark" and should be considered for comparison rather than for accuracy. Keep track of what you are adding, stay consistent in your record keeping and your formula, and you can then use the data to improve future grows of the same strain by knowing where it likes the relational (inaccurate consistently) nutrient level to be.

At 20ml of CNS 17 Bloom 2-2-3 Ca2.5 Mg0.5 and 2ml of Hydroplex 0-10-6 Ca0.01 Mg0.5 added to exactly 3780ml for a total solution of 3802... The formula's look like this:
N=(2x10,000)/(3802/20)=20,000/190.1=105.2
P2O4=((2x10,000)/(3802/20))+((10x10,000)/(3802/2))=(20,000/190.1)+(100,000/1901)=105.2+52.6=157.8
P=157.8x0.44=69.4
K2O=((3x10,000)/(3802/20))+((6x10,000)/(3802/2))=(30,000/190.1)+(60,000/1901)=157.8+31.6=189.4
K=189.4x0.83=157.2
Ca=((2.5x10,000)/(3802/20))+((0.01x10,000)/(3802/2))=(25,000/190.1)+(100/1901)= 131.5+0.05=131.6
Mg=((0.5x10,000)/(3802/20))+((0.5x10,000)/(3802/2))=(5,000/190.1)+(5,000/1901)=26.3+2.6=28.9

Total guaranteed nutrient ppm: 612.9
105.2-157.8-189.4 Ca131.6 Mg28.9

Add in the tap water starting point and unaccounted for elements like Sulfur, Iron, Manganese, etc, and compensate for additional NPK unlisted on the bottle... That could be anywhere from 160ppm more to 360ppm more. So, actual measuring should be something like 770ppm to 970ppm. Translate that back into EC and it could be anywhere from 1.2 to 1.5... which is a pretty huge deviance.

So truth be told... you can't really figure out anything accurately just by crunching the numbers because you can't be sure what you're actually adding to the water, or what is in the water to begin with (short of RO filtered I suppose). Just use your brain, try to come to your own conclusion using the data at hand, and don't underestimate the necessity of actual measurements.
 

420Marine

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Bad ass...with those figures I should be able to convince my buddy for some sort of calc program...we shall see
 

t0rn

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Grats man! It was a very informative one at that, sorry I been lagging on getting back, got some pizza, smoked a bowl and Grandmas Boy is on :D
 

Snow Crash

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I watched Black Dynomite tonight. It is fucking epic. I laughed my ass off. If you hate Netflix online I recommend you check it out.
 

t0rn

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Kryptonite:
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I'll be doing something like this again at the end when I harvest them.
 

Snow Crash

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You have the same bad habit I do. That plant has moved more times in its short life then I have. lol.

Try to find the right spot for her and just set her there and leave her be. I find that the more a plant is jostled and moved the less it tends to swell and really put on that final weight.

Cool to see the progression. That topping you did was... serious... but it all seems to be working out for the best.
 

t0rn

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You have the same bad habit I do. That plant has moved more times in its short life then I have. lol.

Try to find the right spot for her and just set her there and leave her be. I find that the more a plant is jostled and moved the less it tends to swell and really put on that final weight.

Cool to see the progression. That topping you did was... serious... but it all seems to be working out for the best.
I have a good spot for them now, I spin them 1/4 turn when I water.

I don't plan on topping the Romulan like that anymore, it branches horizontally.
 

t0rn

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Just watered, pots were feeling light. Fed 1/2 gallon to each 2 gallon pot (the 5 bigger ones) so there was only a dribble for runoff. Used 18ml CNS17 Bloom, 2ml Hydroplex, and 1ml Superthrive per gallon.

The other 4 plants are sort of on their own schedule for watering now and don't drink as fast as the larger ladies.
 

Snow Crash

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It is better to feed just as the lights come on.

Are you feeding before the lights go out? Not that it is a huge issue but this can really increase the humidity in the grow area increasing the chance mold will appear.

At lights on plants pull up water and nutrients from the media. Time it right and you can hit them with the right stuff at the right moment. I think it'll be fine though. Make sure you are removing your run off too, even if it is a dribble.
 

t0rn

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From what I understand plants stretch and grow resinous at night. They use the daytime to create and store nutrients from photosynthesis.

From what I see on a day to day basis they grow more during the lights out period, it's the only reason I feed at night. Feeding coco in a hydroponic system you would feed twice a day, once before the lights come on and once before the lights go out. I'm not too worried about it the coco will be nice and moist in the morning as well.
 

t0rn

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During the daytime, plants produce energy in the form of ATP and NADPH (light reactions)...during the night, these energy forms go to the dark reactions (Calvin Cycle) to fuel the production of organic molecules from CO2 collected during the day...some of these organic molecules will be stored (starch) and some will be used for plant structural growth (cellulose), and some for other organic molecules (lipids, proteins, etc).
 

Snow Crash

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Did a little googling on "best time of day to water indoor plants" and the general consensus is:
The problem with evening watering seems to be that the foliage will stay wet all night long and that allows various molds and mildews to get a foothold. Watering in the early morning gives the plants a chance to drink their fill before the water evaporates but the leaves aren’t wet for more than an hour or two.
-http://askville.amazon.com/time-day-water-plants/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=2270213

I'm sure it'll be alright though. You're not the only person watering before bedtime.
 
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