1000w Coco Multi-strain Medicinal Grow

t0rn said:

I'm around Los Angeles, tons of hydro shops, garden shops, etc.. I know grow bags are cheap, I'm just concerned with their stability and re-usability. I plan on going all buckets.

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I recommend using square pots. Make the most out of floor space. I didn't like the grow bags. The ones i had were made nice , real durable and seemed good. I ended up breaking four when they weren't in use. I can break ANYTHING.

I got a rugged tough phone from verizon, motorola made it. Luckily it still works , but i cracked the screen and got it water damaged in the first week. I got tons of other similar events just like this . They might be good for you.

You're completely right about the square buckets. The ones I have are 1.5 gallon and I need to upgrade to 3 gal for flowering. You can put more square buckets in the same space than you can the round ones too.

t0rn said:

You're completely right about the square buckets. The ones I have are 1.5 gallon and I need to upgrade to 3 gal for flowering. You can put more square buckets in the same space than you can the round ones too.

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Hey what up tOrn, just a little something for you to try. i used the 1.5gal white square pots getting just about an oz dried mostly from each plant, and i had 12 plants at each station(4 stations btw). well now i use .75 gal pots, i let the plants do about 8 weeks of veg, i add two weeks cloning and six weeks vegging after that, of which their last two to three weeks of veg are in the .75agl pots(you must create a strong root system, not an alright or ok one), and then put them out to flower in that same pot. and with the smaller pot i was able to have 18 plants at each station kicking out just about an oz per plant, dried on most. but i have to feed about one time more per week. long story short im still getting the same amount per plant, but im using less coco: 12- 1.5gal pots=72 liters of coco, about a bag and a half=8-11 oz's dried. where as 18- .75gal pots=54liters of coco, just about a bags worth=12-15oz's. also i save on nutes because it would take about 2-2.5 liters of nutes to get a run off in the 1.5gal=24-30 liters, but for the .75 it takes just about 1liter=18 liters. less of everything else and about the same to more bud, cant beat that. thats when i fuond out bigger is not alwys better. but sorry i kinda drifted off a bit, but what i wanted to tell you is to get "1" .75liter pot and just try it out and see if it works for you. if not its one plant, but if it does work out like it did for me...............you can imagine the rest. when i get a chance i'll put up some pics of the two test babies i had. it was actually a two part test. test A was the pot size, and test B was one of the pots was being fed base A&B nutes with the booster i had been using(Gen. Hydro.'s Floralicious Bloom) andthe other with the base nutes and ATAMI's Bloombastic, oh man. but Monday when i get back in i'll post the pics. but hey just an idea for you to throw around before you increase, 1:medium cost, 2:nutrient cost, 3: amount of time it takes to feed, 4:the increase in humidity, and 5:the amount of coco to get rid of. Because those are at least five things that "will be" issues to deal with.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

Hey Zen, thanks for the post. I was watching your grow before I ever started growing and was always impressed.

That post sort of blew my mind. I was here thinking that I was going to need bigger pots than the ones I had now because all you read around here (who knows if these people even grow) is 1 gallon per month of growing. With that thought 3-4 gallons would be correct as 8 weeks veg 8 weeks flower would be 4 months.

Next go around I'll try a few smaller pots out, this grow I have going now has pretty much run out of budget so I can't go making changes like that right now. You've reassured me though that the size of pot I'm using now isn't going to make my plants root bound.

Quick question, how tall were the plants when you chopped in the .75 gal containers?

t0rn said:

Hey Zen, thanks for the post. I was watching your grow before I ever started growing and was always impressed.

That post sort of blew my mind. I was here thinking that I was going to need bigger pots than the ones I had now because all you read around here (who knows if these people even grow) is 1 gallon per month of growing. With that thought 3-4 gallons would be correct as 8 weeks veg 8 weeks flower would be 4 months.

Next go around I'll try a few smaller pots out, this grow I have going now has pretty much run out of budget so I can't go making changes like that right now. You've reassured me though that the size of pot I'm using now isn't going to make my plants root bound.

Quick question, how tall were the plants when you chopped in the .75 gal containers?

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well i topped them first off, but at the end,and youl'll see in the pics monday. but at the end they were at about 2.5, maybe 3 feet. but most of the colas on them were all 10"- 12" inches long, and about 1.5"-2" inches wide. but you gotta know your strain and if it fits your height requirement with 2weeks cloning, and 6 weeks vegging, and two weeks of stretch in flower. ive been working with this Northern lights for about two years so i know it pretty well. and no ive never had a plant get rootbound in the 1.5gal, "EVER". even with the way i veg.



PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

Everyone in your thread seems to think you've died, lol. I can't wait to see these pics on Monday.

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well i topped them first off, but at the end,and youl'll see in the pics monday. but at the end they were at about 2.5, maybe 3 feet. but most of the colas on them were all 10"- 12" inches long, and about 1.5"-2" inches wide. but you gotta know your strain and if it fits your height requirement with 2weeks cloning, and 6 weeks vegging, and two weeks of stretch in flower. ive been working with this Northern lights for about two years so i know it pretty well. and no ive never had a plant get rootbound in the 1.5gal, "EVER". even with the way i veg.



PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

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Awesome! I tried topping 3 of the strains I have going now, leaving the one from seed natural, and FIMing another. Next go around when the clones root I'll be trying those 3 dif. methods of growing on each strain and seeing how well they react to each technique.

t0rn said:

Awesome! I tried topping 3 of the strains I have going now, leaving the one from seed natural, and FIMing another. Next go around when the clones root I'll be trying those 3 dif. methods of growing on each strain and seeing how well they react to each technique.

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next time you get a new strain and top it before you flower it, make sure the cutting is big enough to clone. let that clone grow completely out while the other is flowering. that way about a month and a half into flowering, youve got a mother to take clones off of, and then you can get some kind of perpetual grow going. get it? then you'll always have bud in between harvest.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

ZEN MASTER said:

next time you get a new strain and top it before you flower it, make sure the cutting is big enough to clone. let that clone grow completely out while the other is flowering. that way about a month and a half into flowering, youve got a mother to take clones off of, and then you can get some kind of perpetual grow going. get it? then you'll always have bud in between harvest.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

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You clearly didn't read any of this thread. What you're saying to do is exactly what I'm doing at the moment

Stoner..

I took the tops for clones, plus a few of the bottom branches. 2 weeks into flowering I'll be going through and cleaning the bottom up again and getting a few more clones from each plant. Once I do have a decent clone base up I'll have a perpetual grow. All strains I have now, other than 3 mexican bagseed seedlings are 8 week strains. I have a 4x4 to grow in with a 1000w and I'll have 16 plants (1 plant per sq foot). It's going to be 4 in and 4 out every 2 weeks.

Page 10 has pictures from 4 days ago.

The 3rd seed finally popped its head out of the soil. Couple squirts from the sprayer and the seed casing fell right off. I've labeled the 3 seedlings a, b, and c because lord knows what they really are. Hoping for 3 ladies but I wouldn't hate on a male. If a male does pop up I'll make a box for it and put it somewhere on the other side of the house, let it mature enough to drop some pollen, collect that pollen, and cull the stud.

Just for those of you that were unaware, as I was unaware, there are 2 sets of "skins" inside of a seed shell. There's one that lines the inside of the seed shell itself and another that wraps around the productive parts of the inside of the seed, the cotyledon. I learned this by looking at the latest seed that popped up. I thought that by at this time the cotyledon would have split open to reveal the first set of true leaves but it seemed to have a condom over it. I took my razor to the very outside (the farthest tip of the cotyledon) and noticed there was another sheath on it. Carefully removing it the cotyledon split open immediately and now it looks like a regular seedling. Just tossing this info to noobs like myself who may have only though there was only one set of skin inside of the seed casing. Back to my mad scientist laboratory.

Good info..btw I forgot what method did you initially use to germ them...when I get some seeds was going to go with a plastic bag with some holes in it to let moisture out..thoroughly spray the bag inside and put on top of my cable box...I know seems kinda half hazard however I have seen a TON of people on these boards seems like almost 100% germ ratio.

Pretty much did the same thing. I noticed they crack faster in water though rather than the paper towel method. I tried it with a paper towel, and maybe I'm impatient, but after 2 days I plopped them in a little glass of water and they cracked within 48 hours after that. Some as fast as 24 hours. I did put it on top of my cable box too, nice and toasty up there. In fact I think it was a little too hot at times.

ahh good good...got a plan for a possible autoflower strain and found a good deal at attitude for a decent strain.

Sweet, whatcha gettin?

Woot~

The first set of clones I took are starting to root now. Seems like Poison and Hog are quickest to root. All of the clones I took from those strains are rooted and I'm just waiting on the Romulan and Kryptonite.

Welll I'm thinking of getting lowryder easy ryder's but havne't made up my mind if I can even do that yet..I"d like to wait till I have these girls under their HPS but I might have to start a second crop to pay fr teh first one and veg the crap outta these and clone as well.

Just looked through your parts list at the beginning of your thread and I never noticed before that you didn't have an HPS light setup.

I got mine off of craigslist for $150. I looked for weeks before getting that one and I've YET to see a better price on there for a 1000w setup.

I'm going to go look up those autos you were talking about. Shitty thing with those is that you can't clone them and you're always stuck buying more seed, unless you make your own of course.

Easy Rider AKA Lowryder #2 x AK47

This is an f1 cross between a Lowryder #2 and an automatic AK47 in which the two parents strongly exhibit their best genetic traits: high resin production, the fruity aroma (of a carefully selected Lowryder #2 phenotype), and the size and branching of the AK47 automatic.
This poly-hybrid is fully auto-flowering and matures in 70-75 days from germination, reaching optimal size if given enough light (intensity and time). The best conditions are 20 hours of light and 4 of dark during the entire cycle. Outdoors the best time is may-august, but it's easy to do multiple cycles per season, until November.

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Seems like a rad little plant dude!