150w HPS Mini Fridge {6x Diesel Ryder AF & 6x Apollo11/Green Giant}

KB

the two you harvested look real nice. what were the trics like when you pulled em? i thoght they would be a little taller but im excited to see how mine will end up.
here is a link to my grow journal if you would like to watch https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/204894-pc-case-lowryder-grow.html

later bud
crazytrain

yo KB

hows the mini fridge going? havent heard from ya in a while

DAY 25

Plant Stage (Apollo11/Green Giant): Veg
Plant Stage (Diesel Ryder): Flower [Day 11]
Light Cycle: 20/4
Lights (Until Mini Fridge is Ready): 2x42w 2700k CFLs, 2x30w 2700k CFLs, 2x26w 2700k CFLs, 2 23w 6500K CFLs
Medium: 50% Sunshine Mix, 45% Pearlite, 3% Blood Meal, 2% Bone Meal
Ferts: Schultz Plant Food (10-15-10) every other day.
Strain: 2x Diesel Ryder Females, 6x Apollo11/Green Giant (Sex Unknown), 3x Diesel Ryder(Sex Unknown)


Hey guys sorry its been a while, work is crazy this time of year for me. Unfortunately the mini fridge is still not ready, but the plants are sure ready for it, HAHA! I have hooked up all the duct work I just need to sand & repaint it, cut a shelf to fit, hang it and it will be finished!

Until then, the cab is working just fine. I harvested my 2 larger Diesel Ryders and took pictures, but Im tired and Ive already posted them in both the other threads in my sig, so if you wanna check them out follow one of the links.

As far as all the plants that will go into the fridge, my 2 female diesel ryders are doing wonderful, they are already taller than my harvested ones were and they're only at day 25! Its amazing how much transplanting in time makes a difference! So here are the two ladies, Daria (Left) and Ellie May (Right).

Here are all 6 of the Apollo11/Green Giants, looking nice & healthy. I desperately need to put them all in 6 inch pots, but dont have the room in the cab. I am having to water them every day and the roots are filling the cup up fast. Hopefully they will be in bigger pots by this weekend.

And here is the extremely cramped cab. The 3 up front are my newest 3 diesel ryder seedlings. 1 of the 4 I started never cracked or sprouted

As soon as the mini fridge is operational I will be taking lots of pics and posting them asap!

Peace
KB

crazytrain14 said:

KB

the two you harvested look real nice. what were the trics like when you pulled em? i thoght they would be a little taller but im excited to see how mine will end up.
here is a link to my grow journal if you would like to watch https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/204894-pc-case-lowryder-grow.html

later bud
crazytrain

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Hey sorry, just realized I missed your question. I have a 10x jewelers loop and from what I could tell, roughly 10% of the trichs were amber, the rest were a little cloudy. That was the day I put them in the closet with lights out for 2 days. And again, these girls were abnormally small, they were kept in a 16oz cup for a month and then in a translucent pot. But obviously you can keep these plants pretty small if you need to!

Ill check your thread out here in a bit, always excited to see other Diesel Ryders!!

KB

DAY 31

Plant Stage (Apollo11/Green Giant): Veg
Plant Stage (Diesel Ryder): Flower [Day 17]
Light Cycle: 20/4
Light: 150w HPS
Medium: 50% Sunshine Mix, 45% Pearlite, 3% Blood Meal, 2% Bone Meal
Ferts: Schultz Plant Food (10-15-10) every other day.
Strain: 2x Diesel Ryder Females, 6x Apollo11/Green Giant (Sex Unknown), 3x Diesel Ryder(Sex Unknown)


Well, I decided that the best way to finish the fridge was to just skip what I was dreading the most, which was sanding and repainting the inside. It is already white, just has some flaws & smudges. My cab was really starting to cook the plants, not to mention I had to leave the doors open on it completely ruining the stealth aspect. So I cut & hung my 16x16" laundry shelf, rigged a PC fan up real quick to cool the bulb and plugged it all in.

Heres a shot just after getting the fridge situated and fired up.

I moved all the plants into the fridge for the night to see how they do, I will monitor temps & everything pretty close for the next week or so. As I said, the cab really cooked the girls a couple days and I have been under watering the Apollo11/Green Giants since they require practically daily watering and I have been lazy. Im almost certain I will lose a couple of the A/GGs and I think one of my new DR seedlings may not ever grow leaves but the 2 Diesel Ryder females are looking pretty damn good! All the plants were showing a lot of yellow so i decided to put about 1/2 tablespoon Alaskan Fish Fertilizer (5-1-1) per gallon of water to up the nitrogen a bit, well see how it does. Here they are, hopefully next update they will look better.

And a top view, I have my 3 seedlings in the middle about 11 inches from the bulb.

I am very excited to see how well this HPS performs vs. my CFL setup I had. Ill say one thing, it seems it will be much easier cooling 1 bulb than trying to keep air blowing on 8 CFLs! The 2 female Diesel Ryders tops are about 6-7 inches from the bulb, hopefully that PC fan is enough to keep the tops from burning. Well let me know what you guys think, its not exactly how I had it planned but it just got real hot, real busy at work, and real crazy at home so I just wanted to get the damn thing operational! All feedback is appreciated!

Peace
KB

sweet man, looks real good. i ended up with 2 females in my stealth box. already flowering at day 25. good luck man ill be watching

peace

I agree with crazytrain... everything looks nice (except for the sad plant in the back

I don't have experience comparing the two, but I'm sure you will be happy with the difference in the HID vs. cfls. Can't wait to see what happens.

The plants still look good even with the yellow. Be looking beautiful this time next week.

I love the fridges man.

crazytrain14 said:

sweet man, looks real good. i ended up with 2 females in my stealth box. already flowering at day 25. good luck man ill be watching

peace

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Thats awesome man, how many total did you have? Ill tell ya, its real easy to under estimate how big a full grown plant will be when they are small. I am actually pretty glad that I only got 2 females because I dont know how the hell I would fit anymore plants in this mini fridge haha! The plan it to move the A11/GGs to the big fridge once I know sex.

jigfresh said:

I agree with crazytrain... everything looks nice (except for the sad plant in the back

I don't have experience comparing the two, but I'm sure you will be happy with the difference in the HID vs. cfls. Can't wait to see what happens.

The plants still look good even with the yellow. Be looking beautiful this time next week.

I love the fridges man.

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Haha thanks for the compliments! I am very excited about this setup. After running for 2 hours last night the temp was 77F. It turned off for 4 hours, and by the time I got up it had been on for almost 5 and the temp was 77F!!! That made me so happy! I mean hell, the ambient room temp is maybe 2 degrees less than that! Once I get home from work tonight it will have been running for about 14 hours so that will be the real test.

Ill keep you guys updated but from what I can tell, this is going to me a very nice setup to fine tune over the next few years. Minus the intensive labor required to remove all the foam I would recommend this project to anyone lookin to grow 1-4 plants for personal use! Probably $250-$300 total for parts.

KB

looks fuckin amazing. could u tell me your set up. i work with cfls. i have 7 23 watt cfls flowerin 2 plants. ther boath females. but they git little buds. i was wonderingin if i should addd nuts. idk help?

jestacrazy said:

looks fuckin amazing. could u tell me your set up. i work with cfls. i have 7 23 watt cfls flowerin 2 plants. ther boath females. but they git little buds. i was wonderingin if i should addd nuts. idk help?

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Well, I would say you number 1 problem is the high amount of low wattage CFLs you are using. 7 23w CFLs is 161 total watts. You could just as easily use a 150w HPS bulb and get WAY better results.

If you are trying to stick with CFLs, then go to home depot and buy the 42w or 68w ones they have there. They both screw into the same size socket that the 23w bulbs do. The 68w are $15 a piece and the 42w are $9.95 a piece where Im at. You also want to make sure that you have some "daylight" CFLs for vegging, then use the Soft White/Orange bulbs for flowering. The 68w and 42w are only available in soft white at Home Depot, but if you used 6 or so 23w daylight bulbs for veg, then a couple 68w or 4 42w for flowering you would get MUCH better results! Hope that helps, let me know if you still have any questions.



In other news, I got home last night and looked at the temps in the mini fridge and was very pleased. The low was 69F (Lights off & Exhaust on for 4 hours) and the high ended up being 80F (Lights on for 20 hours) which is VERY acceptable. The best part is that my fan is on its low setting and you cant even hardly hear the thing. That is also after pushing through a carbon scrubber, which bogs the fan down even more.

I also bumped the shelf up another inch and raised the shorter diesel ryder up another inch on top of that, so both Diesel Ryder females are about 5 inches from the light now, if they aren't burned at all when I get home I will most definitely leave them there, I want to get as close as possible. The buds are really starting to fatten up and there are trichs all over them now! Ill snap some pictures soon!

Peace
KB

Nice setup with those CFLs, and that little HPS. I'm a fairly accomplished CFL grower but I've been thinking of trying a low wattage HPS.
My space is 2 x 2 feet, and 5 feet tall. It's not very wide but I have enough hight for some extra air circulation. I can't really decide between a 250 watt HP for this space, or getting a 150 watt HPS and combining it with my 130 watt, red spectrum, CFL bulb. I'll be watching your grow so see how it works out.

You seem like a pretty savy CFL grower as well, maybe you could give me some advice that will help to get a bigger yield than last time. I would really appreciate any tips. https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/199973-cfl-wrap-around-5.html

NorthWest69 said:

Nice setup with those CFLs, and that little HPS. I'm a fairly accomplished CFL grower but I've been thinking of trying a low wattage HPS.
My space is 2 x 2 feet, and 5 feet tall. It's not very wide but I have enough hight for some extra air circulation. I can't really decide between a 250 watt HP for this space, or getting a 150 watt HPS and combining it with my 130 watt, red spectrum, CFL bulb. I'll be watching your grow so see how it works out.

You seem like a pretty savy CFL grower as well, maybe you could give me some advice that will help to get a bigger yield than last time. I would really appreciate any tips. https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/199973-cfl-wrap-around-5.html

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Very nice North! I visited your thread, always good to see people gettin their CFLs nice & close, where they belong haha! My plan is to eventually add 2 42w 2700k CFLs to the mini fridge, if it doesn't raise the heat too much. I always do have a higher speed setting on my fan to tinker with though, muahaha!

I would put a cage around each and have them hanging halfway down the plants as close as possible. I would probably need another fan inside the fridge for that too so we'll see. A homemade upside down reflector for the bottom buds would be neat too but maybe not to practical with the limited penetration of a CFL.

Good luck with yours, Ill be watching!

Peace
KB

DAY 40

Plant Stage (Apollo11/Green Giant): Flower [Day 3]
Plant Stage (Diesel Ryder): Flower [Day 26]
Light Cycle: 12/12
Light: 150w HPS
Medium: 75% Sunshine Mix, 20% Pearlite, 5% Bone Meal
Ferts: Schultz Plant Food (10-15-10) every other day. Water only for the Diesel Ryders
Strain: 3x Diesel Ryder Females, 2x Apollo11/Green Giant Females, 4x Apollo 11/Green Giant(Sex Unknown)


Hi guys, I am leaving for a week so I thought I would do a quick update before we head out. My wife is chomping at the bit wanting to leave 5 minutes ago so Ill make it a quick one.

Due to a lack of room, the Apollo11/Green Giant plants will not be going into the big fridge as planned. Instead I had the Diesel Ryders take one for the team and I switched the mini fridge to 12/12 so the apollo11/green giants would flower. So far 2 have shown sex and are female, YAY! Out of the 4 diesel ryders I started, one never germinated, one died as a sprout, I got one male and the last one was female So now I have 2 Diesel Ryders at 40 days old, 1 female Diesel Ryder female at a little over 2 weeks, 2 female Apollo11/Green Giants and 4 Apollo11/Green Giants that have not shown sex yet. I did transplant all of the plants earlier this week. The apollos went from 16oz cups to 6in pots, the diesel ryders went from one 6in pot to 2 stacked 6in pots.

Ok on to pictures.

All 3 of my Diesel Ryders. The yellow sure cleared up on all the Apollo plants, but I think the yellowing on the Diesel Ryders is just a sign that the plants are working more on the buds than the leaves. Also, when I transplanted the Diesel Ryders I used BOGs double pot method and just cut the bottom of the pot they were in, filled another pot the sam size with soil and set the original on top of it, worked out wonderfully.

Here are all 5 of the Apollo11?Green Giants. The 2 towards the middle are the females, the 3 in the corners have not shown sex yet.

Here is a group shot of how I have them setup now.

OK thats about all I have time for right now, I will be back around the 20th with more pics & updates. It should be close to harvest time when we return

Peace guys
KB

nice whats the set up

your correct on the yellowing. the plant is drawing energy from the leaves to use on flower development, which in turn will kill the leaves. they will fall off on their own. just let nature take its course. your plants are looking great btw

jestacrazy said:

nice whats the set up

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not sure exactly what you wanna know. pretty much everything is listed in the update. a page back or so shows some better shots of the mini fridge. let me know if there's something I've missed.B1izzard - Cool I'm glad that's what it is. my last 2 DRs did the same thing and they turned out awesome! thanks for the compliment too!so I just recently figured out that I don't get charged for ANY roaming calls or internet access while I'm out here so ill be able to check in using my phone. not the easiest or fastest way to type but it works! thanks again for the interest guys, I can't wait to get back and see my ladies all grown up Peace KB

hey KB

hey man have a question for ya. could you check out my grow link in my signature? ive got some yellowing that i feel is real premature for flowering and thought it to be a mg diffenciency. just thought i would ask what you thought. everything is looking real good man. keep it up.

peace,
crazytrain

DAY 50

Plant Stage: Flower [Day 36]
Light Cycle: 12/12
Light: 150w HPS
Medium: 75% Sunshine Mix, 20% Pearlite, 5% Bone Meal
Ferts: 14 drops Schultz Plant Food (10-15-10) & 1 Tbsp Molasses per gallon every other day.
Strain: 3x Diesel Ryder Females



Ok so Im back from vacation and a lot has happened. Ill get the bad news over first. Of the 6 Apollo11/Green Giants I started, I lost one to heat stress, and all but 1 of the rest turned out male Apparently one of the ones I saw a hair or 2 on was not a female after all. Since it was the only one left, I squeezed it into the big fridge so I could put the mini fridge back on 20/4 to promote better growth for the Diesel Ryders. If you want to see pictures of it check my fridge thread in my sig.

Now as far as the 3 renaming female Diesel Ryders go, they look awesome. 2 of them are very near harvest time, and getting nice & fat. The one that was 2.5 inches tall when I left is a whopping 9 Inches tall now!! It is more stretched than I would prefer but we will see how it works out. Here are some before and after pictures for perspective. I re potted the newest DR in a 6 inch pot, its in the middle.

Before (07/10/90)

After (07/20/09) Notice how well the yellowing has cleared up on the larger ones.

And here are the 3 ladies in the mini fridge, I turned the HPS off for the pic as it drowns a lot of detail out.

The trichs on the 2 larger DRs are still pretty clear, but I saw a few milky ones. My plan is to finish the 2 larger DRs, then start as many DRs in 16oz cups as i can cram in the fridge with the remaining female DR. That way all my plants will be roughly the same height, and maybe I can get a good 8+ females to grow at once if Im lucky.

That's all for now, the vacation was wearing and the road trip was hell, but we brought back some great "mid grade" bud that we got a hell of a deal on. Hopefully it will hold us over till harvest time

Peace
KB

Well I think I had the HPS a bit too close to the girls. No serious damage but all the upper leaves on the 2 larger DRs started curling up and turning a yellowish/brown color. The tops of the plants were about 3-4 inches from the bulb, now they are a more comfortable 5-6 inches from it. All trichs are still 100% clear as far as I can tell. Figured I would post an update now to bump the thread up during more peak hours of the day

Cant wait to see how much I yield of these fat little gals!
KB

Hey KB. Glad the vacation didn't kill you and you got some herb out of it, nice.

Did the light bleach any of the buds, or just heat stress the leaves?

The little girls look great, little balls of fury.