40+ lbs with 12 Plants in 2 Rooms on a Flip

this is exactly what I did this morning only I used tap water instead of ro

I just let it sit out for 24 hours to burn off chlorine.

Ppm is 55 of my tap water . I ph'd to 6.4 and flushed

Waited few hours before I fed her, she was already perked up before lights went out

Renfro said:

It looks to me like you may be a little phosphorous deficient. A nitrogen deficiency will start at the very bottom of your plant and the whole leaf will get pale then yellow then brown and dead. Looks like there is a lot of nitrogen available because the leaves are dark green. I personally dont want to see that much nitrogen in flower. Looks like you have a ways to go in flower so there is some time to correct that should you choose to do so.

I personally want to see the plants looking rather crappy (fan leaves) in late flower. They should be consuming mobile nitrogen from the fan leaves and at the end the plants buds are the only thing that look good, the rest of the fan leaves are looking like shit. But thats just my way. I always get really good bud that smokes great when dry, no cure or flush. P and K are important in the end. The P = yield IMO and the K = terpene production. With the three part nutes I can manage the numbers well and dont need a PK booster.

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That's good advice. Spending a good part of my grow worried about deficiencies, I wondered if I would be able to tell later in flower between a def and senescence. I did not need to worry because near the end, yeah the fans looked like shit but they looked natural if you get what I am saying. It was like autumn in there with the purples and yellows and browns and reds, oh my. The buds are what stood out. It just looked right.

You know more than I do Renfro, but what about potassium? That can present as dark green, and the burnt looking leaf tips is another thing that leads me to say that.

BTW, your grow is the shit Renfro. If only my wife would let me loose with the spare room lol. She wants it to be an art room but I think it could be much more.....productive....than that. But that's just me and I would never tell her that.

5BY5LEC said:

You know more than I do Renfro, but what about potassium? That can present as dark green, and the burnt looking leaf tips is another thing that leads me to say that.

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Anything is possible.

5BY5LEC said:

But that's just me and I would never tell her that.

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Sometimes it doesn't pay to be right. Wise man...

5BY5LEC said:

You know more than I do Renfro, but what about potassium? That can present as dark green, and the burnt looking leaf tips is another thing that leads me to say that.

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lol please dont overload my newbie brain with more possibilities lol


Happy wife happy life....art room it is lol

diggs99 said:

Trust me, people are benefiting, atleast i know i am

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Damn right we are

diggs99 said:

... what will your ppm be on your last feeding roughly?

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Just measured it, 920 PPM is my last feed week. I had excell bust out a little chart of my nutes as ML added of each part. As you can see I have a little grow in there but not too much and at the very end none. You can also see the Si drop off. Kinda cool to look at it that way.

Awesome. that graph is a dream for newbs lol, so much easier understanding how you do your taper, when looking at it like this.

I see you keep giving calimagic till the end, i have noticed a few growers who say they cut it out after week 5-6. Its so crazy how different growers have such different opinions on how to do things, funny thing is, most of them all work lol

So your taper isnt all that severe, 1260 down to 920ppm

I will try and use that as a guideline. My PPM was 1200 last feeding. that was 10ml/g of bloom. I plan to drop down to 800-900 by the last week. My issue obviously is not being able to lower my N without lowering PK.

Bought the 3 pack of flora yesterday, next run i will be using this instead of the floranova.

I already have Si, i normally use tap water, do you recommend still using calimagic?

How important is the B52?

I know by using what you use its not gonna all of a sudden turn me into RENFRO , but i also know the closer i mimic the good ones, the closer i get to being good lol

As to the tap water and calimagic... I would have the water tested, see whats in it if it has more than 50 PPM. It probably has calcium so adding more would likely lockout magnesium therefore you may wanna just add some epsom salt instead, perhaps 150 - 200 PPM worth. Sometimes our water has a spike in magnesium so when that happens i am glad I am on RO, makes things simple.

Without CO2 you may not need such high ppm so you may end up taking it down 10 or 15 percent on the mix PPM and as long as you don't see anything lacking you're good.

I don't think the B52 is importtant, havent noticed a difference really, just used it for two runs and won't pay for that again.

my tap is consistently 45ppm it seems.

I will keep that in mind, regarding 10-15% decrease in ppm. I wont be using Co2 anytime soon. maybe by end of summer once my garage is built and my new room is being put together lol.

I measure my PPM before the B52 BTW.

At 45 PPM I wouldnt worry about the tap water too much. My Calimagic comes to 3.33 ml/gal, you may try 3 ml/gal. The other nutes i would probably decrease by 15% since you aren't using co2 and start there. Those numbers are for a 30 gallon tank BTW.

I think I will try this mix taper on room B next run and see if there is a difference. Probably without the B52 though. Always playing around with the mix, lol.

@Renfro Glad I stumbled here, lovely grows. I always wanted to nab a stardawg seed too, jealous! Interestingly I've been thinking about doing a dtw setup like this but what has been holding me back is how to collect the waste water with a floor drain. Doesn't it just back up in the lines for you? Or do you have a subterranean collection site or something?

Renfro said:

I measure my PPM before the B52 BTW.

At 45 PPM I wouldnt worry about the tap water too much. My Calimagic comes to 3.33 ml/gal, you may try 3 ml/gal. The other nutes i would probably decrease by 15% since you aren't using co2 and start there. Those numbers are for a 30 gallon tank BTW.

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Ok, thanks for all the info once again renfro. This stuff is very helpful to guys like me.

I need to grab some calimagic and i think ill be all set for the next run.

What are you ph`ing your water to? 6.2-6.5 range?

Im in FFOF/perilite

Renfro is gonna need a good hook up, maybe grow for dispensaries in ur state?

Major Blazer said:

@RenfroI've been thinking about doing a dtw setup like this but what has been holding me back is how to collect the waste water with a floor drain. Doesn't it just back up in the lines for you? Or do you have a subterranean collection site or something?

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I have never had that problem. I use 1" lines for my 10 gallon buckets and 1/2" lines for my 5 gallon ones.

Couch_Lock said:

Renfro is gonna need a good hook up, maybe grow for dispensaries in ur state?

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Naw I don't want a job. With my back I get a good check each month and I just medicate myself and have fun with my hobby.

diggs99 said:

What are you ph`ing your water to? 6.2-6.5 range?

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Exactly 6.5 every time. Thats the magic spot for soil and soiless mix.

Renfro said:

Exactly 6.5 every time. Thats the magic spot for soil and soiless mix.

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are you using pens for PH and PPM?

or do you run one of those fancy controllers ive seen around lol

I have 2 pens, PH and TDS. i trust the TDS, since i calibrated , it has stayed consistant, the PH pen is another story. i abandoned using it this past few weeks because of inconsistency, went to the drops , issues with one plant started happening shortly after.

I need a new pen i think, was much easier and more exact than the drops.