40+ lbs with 12 Plants in 2 Rooms on a Flip

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Renfro

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pandapots said:
How do you like them, and are they reliable?
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Well the first batch of bulbs they sent me were a defective batch and after 6 or 7 months the bulbs arc tubes would crack plus they lost about 19% output in just 7 months. They replaced the defective bulbs and I have been running them for a month or so. I am only using them in veg.
 
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Renfro said:
Well the first batch of bulbs they sent me were a defective batch and after 6 or 7 months the bulbs arc tubes would crack plus they lost about 19% output in just 7 months. They replaced the defective bulbs and I have been running them for a month or so. I am only using them in veg.
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yo thanks for the reply. Are you vegging at 1000w on another fixture? Im asking cause the people who work at hydro stores tend to say that nanolux's products get returned often, and i dont wan't to dish the premium price to find out the ballast is gunna give out.
 
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yo thanks for the reply. Are you vegging at 1000w on another fixture? Im asking cause the people who work at hydro stores tend to say that nanolux's products get returned often, and i dont wan't to dish the premium price to find out the ballast is gunna give out.
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He is right. I had purchased 12 nanolux 1kW DE HPS lights for my flowering rooms. I was all stoked. Liked that I could mount the ballasts remotely. Well they started failing one by one. I was doing warranty replacements a bunch of times. Got tired of having to dick with dead ballasts so I started replacing them with Phantom or Sunsystem ballasts and they have been great. So now I have I think maybe 3 nanolux ballasts that are still hanging in there lol and I have a Phantom on the shelf NIB waiting for it's turn.

Honestly I would avoid Nanolux.

You can run some DE CMH bulbs on HPS ballasts believe it or not. @GoBrah makes some bulbs that you may like. Others have run 630 watt CMH bulbs on 600 watt HPS ballasts and such. You might search for some threads.

SunPlix makes a good light from what I hear but I haven't tried one.
 
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pandapots said:
Great thread you have here! I came over cause i saw on your post from another thread about owning the nanolux 1000w cmh. How do you like them, and are they reliable?

I was in the market for new lights for a 8x9x8 space. I was thinking about doing a mix 2 hps 1000w, and 2 cmh 1000w. Thoughts, recommendations? Anything would help.
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Renfro said:
Check this out: http://www.cultilux.com/1000w-de-cmh.html

Look at that 4k spectrum, that would flower very well IMO. Run them in your DE HPS ballasts. Then you can change bulbs and be CMH or HPS at will.
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Mixed HPS with CMH is good choice, but PPF output and reliability of CMH1000W are what you need to consider about. From my opinion cultilux might have better design and more reliable than Nanolux's cmh1000w, their PPF output are at same level 1.7umol/s/w for 3k and 1.6umol/s/w at 4k, also similar spectrum. Wish you can have my bulbs but they are not for sale at the moment :(
 
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I appreciate the info guys! Definitely looking more into the bulb outputs now, and the idea of getting to use my old fixtures is tempting. Sorry about the 21 questions, but what is your opinion on cleaning the reflectors instead of replacing?

I have some old adjust-a-wing style lights that are about 2 years running, 2 owners, and the last crop was a bit hairy. I'm thinking it was because of poor light quality. Either the bulb (which is more likely imo), or it was the reflector (also a good possibility cuz it had some one-off cleaning streaks). I heard that if you clean the reflectors with alcohol, then clean it with a new rag of ro water and 3% vinegar you wouldn't get those "calcium streaks".
 
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pandapots said:
I have some old adjust-a-wing style lights that are about 2 years running, 2 owners, and the last crop was a bit hairy. I'm thinking it was because of poor light quality. Either the bulb (which is more likely imo), or it was the reflector (also a good possibility cuz it had some one-off cleaning streaks). I heard that if you clean the reflectors with alcohol, then clean it with a new rag of ro water and 3% vinegar you wouldn't get those "calcium streaks".
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Replace the bulbs as well (if they are running for 2 years). Most people I know, replace their bulbs every year (or 5 grows)
Clean the reflectors after every grow. Some reflectors have some protection on it, but cleaning it with water and some vinegar will do no harm. The vinegar will dissolve the calcium. I wonder if you need alcohol (as long as you did not touch the reflectors with sticky fingers or things like that)
Also clean the bulbs after every grow. You can use alcohol for it. Don't touch the glass with your fingers.
 
Renfro

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Definitely time for new bulbs.

The only time I have heard of replacing reflectors instead of cleaning them is with the nanolux DE lights.
 
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70's natureboy said:
Very impressive. I see lots of time and money involved here. Is this how guys sell weed for $100/oz? I don't think so. I still think the $100/oz weed is mostly labor free outdoor weed. I would pass out if i saw your light bill.
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LOL I was just thinking the exact same thing actually. Thats one utility bill i wouldnt want to face lol.
 
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Renfro said:
These started 12/12 on 12/11/18 so they are about 23 days into flowering. Another 47ish to go.

Strain is Gorilla Glue #4. With this strain I manage 42 to 48 pounds.

Each row that has the galvanized trellis rig have 2 plants. 6 plants per room, 2 rooms on a flip. Each room has 9600 watts of lighting. 6000 DE overhead and 2400w vertical end row lights with batwings plus I use and 2 x 600 watt verticals between rows. The side lighting is on a high temperature cutoff in the rare event things get too hot.

My plants are in black 10 gallon buckets. The 2 oddball plants in the rolling white 5 gallon buckets are my girlfriends plants.

All buckets are top feed drain to waste (bucket in bucket with hose to floor drain). I use Berger BM6 HP medium. I cut my clones from plants about 14-20 days into 12/12 so as to improve branching. Once rooted and transplanted into 10 gallon buckets my plants veg for about 40 days from clone in a dedicated veg room and are then moved into the flowering rooms after a harvest and cleanup. Then they are vegged another 10-14 days to get them trellised out sideways to maximize canopy area, create more bud stalks and keep it even as possible.

Feed is General Hydroponics Flora 3 part with Armor Si and Calimagic. I also add Advanced Nutrients B52 and Age Old Mycorrhizae (dry) and Advanced Nutrients Carboload to feed those microbes. pH 6.3 to 6.7 using Advanced pH up and down.

Each room has a 4 ton ceiling mount minisplits (also on the flip with the lights), natural gas CO2 generators, autopilot controllers, swamp coolers to add humidity when required and dehumidifiers to keep it from getting to high (not a problem often here in this dry climate). RO filter provides clean H2O.

For scale purposes the galvanized pipe trellis rigs are 5 feet tall from the floor, 4 feet wide and 8 feet long.
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That pipe trellis is a win.
 
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2com

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Renfro said:
Yeah I wasn't fuckin around with that. lol Didn't want some saggy bendy PVC thing that isn't strong. I pull that hortitrellis really tight, surprised what it will take.
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I made my first trellis from pvc. 1/2" pvc! Lol! Never again.
Is that emt (conduit), or iron pipe, galvanzied, like what is the actual product. Because I'm assuming you didn't have to thread any ends for fittings, which means you didn't have to cut it either?
 
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Well if you wanna get custom then cut pipe with a threader would be handy but I just cleaned out all 4 hardware stores in the area grabbing 4 footers and 5 footers. Of course always have to skip some with beat up threads
 
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Welding isn't something I've learned yet. But I've been wanting to for years now.
Yea, those threaded three way elbows and stuff would be great, just like in pvc.
 
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