A bad few months for teenage boys...

Red1966 said:

Plenty of evidence of the first, none for for your postulate. Show one iota that Zimmerman profiled Martin. Just stating he profiled him because he's a racist and he's a racist because he profiled him merely proves you lack cognitive ability.

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i didn't say he racially profiled him red. i said profiled.

watch the reenactment video or the interrogations. zimm describes exactly how he profiled the kid.

and there is zero evidence for who went after who first, moron.

UncleBuck said:

i didn't say he racially profiled him red. i said profiled.

watch the reenactment video or the interrogations. zimm describes exactly how he profiled the kid.

and there is zero evidence for who went after who first, moron.

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A black youth was reported committing burglaries in the area.

Subsequent to the Zimmerman incident a black youth was arrested, charged and convicted of burglaries in the area.

Damn Zimmerman for accurately profiling criminals..

UncleBuck said:

i listened to his calls to dispatch, moron.

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So you listened to every call he ever made? You must have access that none of the media or the prosecutors had, because they never produced any of it.

UncleBuck said:

no, i'm not lying.

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No, of course not. You would never do that.......lol........

UncleBuck said:

zimm took two flashlights and a gun with him, and then, in his own words he said "and then i went back towards him". not a lie, those are zimm's own words and actions.

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Still not "chasing"

UncleBuck said:

i only said martin defended himself, which he had every right to.

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Pretending the first person to attack is defending themself isn't going to work.

UncleBuck said:

anyone who got chased by an unidentified creep in the dark would be defending himself, not attacking unprovoked. getting chased in the dark by unknown creeps is a sure way to make someone fear for their life.

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Again, pretending the first person to attack is defending themself isn't going to work. Repeatedly misstating (as in lying) he was chased still won't make it true.

UncleBuck said:

no, i'm using it correctly. when you go after someone who's running away from you, uttering about how these assholes always get away, you're chasing after them.

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Nope, following and observing is not "chasing", no matter how many times you lie about it

UncleBuck said:

sorry mundane words and definitions upset you so much, red.

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Sorry mundane words and definitions don't conform to your wishes.

UncleBuck said:

and so sorry for you that black people do indeed have the right to defend themselves, no matter what your racist mind thinks of that.

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and so sorry for you that your primary argument is that everyone else is a racist.

NLXSK1 said:

Damn Zimmerman for accurately profiling criminals..

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*inaccurately

ya know, since martin was just walking home and all.

but don't let facts slow ya down, skippy.

UncleBuck said:

*inaccurately

ya know, since martin was just walking home and all.

but don't let facts slow ya down, skippy.

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Until he assaulted Zimmerman and attempted to kill him...

Facts cheesy beard, those damn inconvenient facts....

Red1966 said:

So you listened to every call he ever made? You must have access that none of the media or the prosecutors had, because they never produced any of it.

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they actually played many of zimm's calls to dispatch during the trial, you idiot.

Red1966 said:

Still not "chasing"

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if someone runs away from you, and you go after them citing that those assholes always get away, you're chasing after them. check the dictionary red.

Red1966 said:

Pretending the first person to attack is defending themself isn't going to work. Again, pretending the first person to attack is defending themself isn't going to work.

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i get it.

if someone chases after a black kid and shoots them, it's self defense.

but if a black kid gets chased after by an unidentified, armed stranger in the dark, they have no right to defend themselves.

cool double standard red! i bet you're totally not racist!

Red1966 said:

so sorry for you that your primary argument is that everyone else is a racist.

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not everyone, but you clearly are.

see my sig.

NLXSK1 said:

Until he assaulted Zimmerman and attempted to kill him...

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so if an unidentified, armed, creepy stranger chases after a black kid in the dark, it's self defense.

but if a black kid runs away from an unidentified, armed, creepy stranger who chases him in the dark, it's assault.

WOW!

nothing completely racist about that!

i bet if you ever got followed in the dark by a creepy, unidentified stranger, you'd be thankful you didn't have a gun on you, right?

keep the doucheness coming, kiddo.

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There is ZERO evidence that Travan needed protection from Zimmerman. There is ZERO evidence that Zimmerman threatened Martin in any way.

There is plenty of evidence that shows that a 17 year old football player could have run circles around Zimmerman.

Just like the other thread with the knife wielding kid that got suicide by cop, you do not seem to want to give any responsibility for the person who committed assault and attempted murder.

The jury disagrees with you though, thankfully...

NLXSK1 said:

There is ZERO evidence that Travan needed protection from Zimmerman. There is ZERO evidence that Zimmerman threatened Martin in any way.

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you're right, zimm shot the evidence dead.

otherwise, all martin had to do was say he feared for his life when a creepy, unidentified stranger tailed him in his car as he walked home, and then got out to chase after him after he tried to run away.

that would make it 100%, irrefutable self defense under florida law. not assault.

damn pesky facts, eh kiddo?

NLXSK1 said:

There is plenty of evidence that shows that a 17 year old football player could have run circles around Zimmerman.

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florida law does not require that you run away from someone who is causing you to fear for your life.

stand your ground, and blow them away.

damn pesky facts.

zimmy is lucky martin didn't have a gun.

The thing you keep conveniently overlooking is that Martin had every opportunity to retreat from the incident.

Zimmerman demonstrably had no possible way of retreating while Martin was slamming his head into the sidewalk and reaching for his firearm.

Martin created the scenario that caused his death. For some reason you seem to think he had no responsibility in the matter when it clearly has been demonstrated by copious amounts of evidence that he struck Zimmerman first, knocked him to the ground, jumped on top of him preventing his retreat and proceeded to smash his head into the concrete while telling him he was going to die. Then when the firearm became visible, Martin started reaching for it eliminating Zimmerman's choices.\

This has been explained to you in detail time and time again and yet you choose to ignore it.

Again, thankfully the jury disagrees with you about the laws in Florida regarding self defense.

UncleBuck said:

florida law does not require that you run away from someone who is causing you to fear for your life.

stand your ground, and blow them away.

damn pesky facts.

zimmy is lucky martin didn't have a gun.

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Stand your ground was not a factor in this case.

Zimmerman's defense was self defense, not stand your ground.

Pesky facts. Keep repeating the lies until you fully believe them. Oh wait...

NLXSK1 said:

Stand your ground was not a factor in this case.

Zimmerman's defense was self defense, not stand your ground.

Pesky facts. Keep repeating the lies until you fully believe them. Oh wait...

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when did i say zimm used SYG?

i said martin had every right to.

apparently you reading compensation has failed you, kiddo.

go back to bed. you're all cranky tonight.

UncleBuck said:

when did i say zimm used SYG?

i said martin had every right to.

apparently you reading compensation has failed you, kiddo.

go back to bed. you're all cranky tonight.

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Scoring some lean isn't SYG. Sorry.

Canna Sylvan said:

Scoring some lean isn't SYG. Sorry.

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you don't need to keep perpetuating racist smears, the trial is over already.

UncleBuck said:

when did i say zimm used SYG?

i said martin had every right to.

apparently you reading compensation has failed you, kiddo.

go back to bed. you're all cranky tonight.

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Where is the proof that Martin was in fear of his life?

Oh yeah, you got nothin...

UncleBuck said:

you don't need to keep perpetuating racist smears, the trial is over already.

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So healthy and in shape school football team members magically get a nutmeg liver?

NLXSK1 said:

Where is the proof that Martin was in fear of his life?

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"SHIT, HE RAN"

i'm sure kids run away from creepy, unidentified strangers that follow them in the dark because they're not scared for their life or bodily harm in any way.

i suppose according to you, black kids have no right to be scared about being hounded by*creepy, unidentified strangers that follow them in the dark, and they should just know their place and run, even though that's not what the law says.

according to you, black kids just need to deal with being profiled and harassed.

it's only self defense if you chase someone down with your gun in the dark first, i suppose.

echelon1k1 said:

What you got against profiling? Obamas admin has embraced profiling you silly moron and according to you, you love everything he does...

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there's nothing wrong with profiling, i do it all the time.

the problem comes when you act upon false assumptions, like zimmy did.

UncleBuck said:

there's nothing wrong with profiling, i do it all the time.

the problem comes when you act upon false assumptions, like zimmy did.

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So you have a problem with Obamas admin. using "signature stikes" on potentially innocent people?

The attack was what has come to be called a "signature strike." This is when the CIA or the military makes the decision to fire based not on who the targets are but on whether they are exhibiting suspicious patterns of behavior thought to be "signatures" of terrorists (as seen on video from the drone). Given that the CIA is killing people it's never identified based on their behavior, one would assume a certain rigor has gone into defining the criteria for the kinds of behavior that get one killed.

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Because it is effectively an executive death sentence with no due process or accountability, for what can only be describe as "circumstantial intelligence"... So if acting on false assumptions is only good for one side, while proclaiming "that could've been me" why is it not okay for everyone else?