Advanced Nutrients B-52. Is it worth the price?

a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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Canna_Man said:
Ive seen a feIw people fellow growers I know thru DG and Jacks and the results they get are subpar so until someone shows me otherwise I dont agree on any of those products at all for growing cannabis.
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This was done with a cheap base. No kushie kush or cartoon sauce. Your spreading bull shit. You should be telling people that learning their plants is the first step in gardening. Not charting from your feed charts.
 

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Carolina Dream'n

Carolina Dream'n

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a mongo frog said:
This was done with a cheap base. No kushie kush or cartoon sauce. Your spreading bull shit. You should be telling people that learning their plants is the first step in gardening. Not charting from your feed charts.
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Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

No but for real, put some of that in your pipe and let's smoke it.
 
Velvet Elvis

Velvet Elvis

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Canna_Man said:
Yeah good genetics give you the ability to get big yields but you still need the proper environment and nutrients in order for them to get produce those numbers.

I have never used any of the Ionic nutrients so I cant comment on them Im not familiar with their products. But I spoke to you before I believe and I dont believe you get anywhere near those numbers maybe 2 per light if that. Put up some pics of your grow I can tell with 1-2 photos if thats what you are getting for dry weight.

The only people getting 3 lbs per light that I have seen in person no BS are running Current Cultures or dwc or systems of that nature running Gavitas which produce more light output than standard 1000w lights I am using for reference. Coco and peat growers running AN are averaging 2.5 per 1000w from all the feedback I am getting from these new charts and re formulated nutrients that are strain specific (they are not available to the public yet). May be a fee more months until this happens.

And idk why I have to work for AN just because I said their products work. Like I have said a million times dont buy their products I could care less I am just tired of you trolls on here talking shit about AN when they are one of the best nutrients in the world let alone the US. And this is politics and marketing put aside. Yeah the shit that old man did was wrong and he will pay for his crimes but that has nothing to do with their products. I been running Canna for years prior to going back to AN and Canna just doesnt produce the same yields or quality I get running AN and its that simple. The Bio Canna quality is better but you also yield like 10-20% less than you would running the AN and thats not something I am willing to give up to gain a small variance of quality.

My post and information simply is stating that I use AN and get very good results, therefore you cannot say something is BS and snake oil if it produces premium meds and yields. That just makes no sense. And for all you people who are so smart none of you have answered any of my basic questions.

So I will ask them again:
If all nutrients can grow any plant than why would there be different nutrient companies who all use different ratios of nutrients, additives, bacterias etc???

I will be waiting for an educated response although I wont hold my breath because noone ever wants to back things they claim up they just talk and deflect by arguing and name calling instead of having an educated conversation detailing the reasoning for such outlandish claims.

And an educated response does not include saying the nutrients are expensive because thats has nothing to do with the quality of nutrients or what it produces. I want an answer on why you or whoever for that matter is trying to say that AN are not good nutrients who actually have used them, do use them or know someone who uses them in which they know what they are doing and have done runs themselves or seen them in person who can tell me what the problem with their nutrients are because I would love to hear this.
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holy fucknuggets, you sir are a psycho!!!!! who the hell replies this many times to any thread ever?????!!!!!!!!

Looks like Advanced is dabbling in human cloning cuz the only time Ive seen psycho like this, is when Big Mike used to have like 20 usernames and literally terrorze the forums with his propaganda.

Like 7 years ago!!! Take a break mike.
 
Carolina Dream'n

Carolina Dream'n

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Velvet Elvis said:
holy fucknuggets, you sir are a psycho!!!!! who the hell replies this many times to any thread ever?????!!!!!!!!

Looks like Advanced is dabbling in human cloning cuz the only time Ive seen psycho like this, is when Big Mike used to have like 20 usernames and literally terrorze the forums with his propaganda.

Like 7 years ago!!! Take a break mike.
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It's the one the only pik_boosted obviously.
 
SPLFreak808

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Canna_Man said:
If you are getting same results with Botanicare and DG and you were with AN than you werent running it correctly. If you read any of my posts from my old acct I lost pw too which was Cannabil. You will see I speak highly of Botanicare and love that product it produces excellent quality meds. But AN blows that out of the water for yields and you can call Botanicare yourself and ask them if they think their products will out yield AN and they will straight up tell you no you will get better quality but lose about 10-20% yield and any rep for their company will tell you that 110% for a fact.

Wait til the new AN charts come out Im doing one of the tests for them right now on chem d and sour d. Its not available to public yet but in next few months it will be coming out and people are getting 2.5-3 per light consistently with these new feeding charts that will be per strain. Then go run it and tell me how you did. And if you dont get what you want and arent satisfied they will refund you your money 1100%
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Out of curiosity, what has b52 given you that nothing else didn't? Because i have noticed the same thing if not better with molasses,alfalfa,sea kelp,silica,humic/fulvic,epsom salts,a few banana peels(yes it works) ect.

Yes it did work for me especially with sick plants or picky eaters but once again way too expensive for someone like me especially since i dont use a "feeding chart". Buy a brix reader and do a side by side to end the thread.
 
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SPLFreak808 said:
Out of curiosity, what has b52 given you that nothing else didn't? Because i have noticed the same thing if not better with molasses,alfalfa,sea kelp,silica,humic/fulvic,epsom salts,a few banana peels(yes it works) ect.

Yes it did work for me especially with sick plants or picky eaters but once again way too expensive for someone like me especially since i dont use a "feeding chart". Buy a brix reader and do a side by side to end the thread.
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I never said b52 was the end all be all of additives. And yes it is expensive if you dont wanna buy it or pay for it u dont need to. I never said if u dont use it you cant grow good meds. I just simply stated that AN nutrients work well if you choose to use them. Imo it isnt snake oil they make good nutrients thats all my point was.

And for the millionth time im not this pik person my old account was Cannabil, i lost my pw and dont know what email I used so I had to start a new account. I dont understand what the point of this is anyways other than to start an argument with me over it because nothing else make sense to me at this point but that is fine whatever makes you happy and your day goes by.

In conclusion I am who I am I like AN I think they make good nutrients. You can run whatever you think works best for you and there is nothing wrong with that. If you like AN great I like them also. If you like DG good for you keep using it, this is your opinion I dont understand why I am wrong for having mine, just because I dont agree with a select few on this forum doesnt mean I am wrong or dont know what I am doing. I feel comfortable paying for good quality nutrients and that is my choosing to do so and it shouldnt be an issue. What I like to run in my gardens has no input or effects on your life and if I wanna pay for them so be it. I just dont know why that is an issue to so many people. I do not work for AN Im not selling anyone anything. I have said many other nutrient lines I use and I like but for some reason noone can understand that and selectively picks and chooses to attack me for saying I like a product that I use and get great results from.
 
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Canna_Man

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a mongo frog said:
This was done with a cheap base. No kushie kush or cartoon sauce. Your spreading bull shit. You should be telling people that learning their plants is the first step in gardening. Not charting from your feed charts.
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Wow a picture of a half a gram of bud doesnt mean you grew that nor does it mean you grew that with DG or Jacks or whatever you say. Put a picture of your whole room or an entire plant and we can see what you are growing. Anyone can out a pic of a gram and a piece of paper up. I can make a lab report look like that myself in 3 minutes.
Any lab reports I get back do not look like that. They are way more detailed, they have actual company headings and more information than that chinsy report you made up look like.
 
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Canna_Man

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chuck estevez said:
LOL, yeah, it's AN that makes good genetics good.
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I out yield my boys chem by almost 1/2 lbs a light using AN and he uses Canna. He never hits 2.5 per light. No AN isnt responsible for genetics but they bring out the best in this variety. Thats what my point is
 
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chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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Canna_Man said:
I out yield my boys chem by almost 1/2 lbs a light using AN and he uses Canna. He never hits 2.5 per light. No AN isnt responsible for genetics but they bring out the best in this variety. Thats what my point is
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and my point is, it isn't the nutes, it's the grow room, environment,grower and so on, I can give that same strain to 5 guys and get 5 versions of it. and they ALL could use AN.

Did you know growing a strain in a plastic pot vs a fabric pot will change a plant, try it,you'll see.
 
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Canna_Man

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chuck estevez said:
and my point is, it isn't the nutes, it's the grow room, environment,grower and so on, I can give that same strain to 5 guys and get 5 versions of it. and they ALL could use AN.

Did you know growing a strain in a plastic pot vs a fabric pot will change a plant, try it,you'll see.
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No I dont know anything about that. I use smart pots and love em. I never ever have root problems, I think they are the best thing since sliced bread lol.

And yes you are correct as I have seen for myself between grows that not only do environments and pots as an example can produce diff characteristics and qualities but nutrients also play a major role in finished product. As an example the chem since me and my boys all run them for awhile now differ immensely between grows. All are same cuts from mother plant and the Canna finishes the flowers with a more golden brown color while the AN I use produces a more lime green and white color flowers.

But nutrients do effect yield and even if a strain can produce say 20% thc regardless of what nutrient you run since its genetically pre disposed in doing so.. It is the nutrients and environment that will produce the yields. And I back this up because I have done tests and countless runs using the same veg time, same amount of plants in the same gallon containers using the same cuts from the same mother plant and growing them out in the same rooms over and over and I can see the difference between run to run. So to me alll things being the same besides nutrients, what goes in to your pots will dictate what comes out of them. This is my opinion from what I do and thats just one person in a large pond.

As you said and others you can talk and ask 1000000 people and 9999999 will probably give you different answers and responses. What my thoughts and opinions are mean nothing to the next guy and thats just what it is you know
 
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SPLFreak808 said:
Out of curiosity, what has b52 given you that nothing else didn't? Because i have noticed the same thing if not better with molasses,alfalfa,sea kelp,silica,humic/fulvic,epsom salts,a few banana peels(yes it works) ect.

Yes it did work for me especially with sick plants or picky eaters but once again way too expensive for someone like me especially since i dont use a "feeding chart". Buy a brix reader and do a side by side to end the thread.
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Kelp and molasses are good but should only be used in small amounts. They can both cause major problems for your plants rhizosphere when used in abundance and need to be limited. Its not what you use its how you use it. This goes for any nutrients or amendments. I didnt say b52 was end all be all and never said you needed it to grow. The thread said is b52 worth it. I was making an assumption he was using AN line so I answered the question that YES if you are running the nutrient line than you should be running b52 it is important. Thats all folks have a good one and happy growing
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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Canna_Man said:
No I dont know anything about that. I use smart pots and love em. I never ever have root problems, I think they are the best thing since sliced bread lol.

And yes you are correct as I have seen for myself between grows that not only do environments and pots as an example can produce diff characteristics and qualities but nutrients also play a major role in finished product. As an example the chem since me and my boys all run them for awhile now differ immensely between grows. All are same cuts from mother plant and the Canna finishes the flowers with a more golden brown color while the AN I use produces a more lime green and white color flowers.

But nutrients do effect yield and even if a strain can produce say 20% thc regardless of what nutrient you run since its genetically pre disposed in doing so.. It is the nutrients and environment that will produce the yields. And I back this up because I have done tests and countless runs using the same veg time, same amount of plants in the same gallon containers using the same cuts from the same mother plant and growing them out in the same rooms over and over and I can see the difference between run to run. So to me alll things being the same besides nutrients, what goes in to your pots will dictate what comes out of them. This is my opinion from what I do and thats just one person in a large pond.

As you said and others you can talk and ask 1000000 people and 9999999 will probably give you different answers and responses. What my thoughts and opinions are mean nothing to the next guy and thats just what it is you know
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Your so full of shit. Show us all your 20% thc. Talking out your ass. Youve never has anything tested. Canna turns buds light brown and Advanced makes buds lime green. Stop saying all that stuff. Fucking embarrassing seeing you post such horse shit, makes this site look fucking awful. Telling people show me your grow then, when you post pics of a 2k room. Settle down a bit, learn from some of the people here. Your never going to get any better of a farmer by just locking your self in Advanced Advanced Advanced.
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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Canna_Man said:
Kelp and molasses are good but should only be used in small amounts. They can both cause major problems for your plants rhizosphere when used in abundance and need to be limited. Its not what you use its how you use it. This goes for any nutrients or amendments. I didnt say b52 was end all be all and never said you needed it to grow. The thread said is b52 worth it. I was making an assumption he was using AN line so I answered the question that YES if you are running the nutrient line than you should be running b52 it is important. Thats all folks have a good one and happy growing
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Well no you cant use too much, most of the time you cant even use all of it together it just depends on what you are trying to do and how your soil is built, that goes with ALL nutrients. I never implied that one works better then the other, im just saying you can get the same results if not better using 1/8th the money spent on even just basic AN stuff. Im actually confused how one feeding chart could out yield the other because most plants eat differently especially in a different environment,different soil,different tap water,different grower skills,different genetics ect. you go severly over/under and yield goes out the window along with plant health and its ability to handle the stress of its environment.
 
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