Aeroponic Space Shuttle

No delays for me, thank god.

I was in Baltimore for a couiple of hours,
waiting to change planes,
then on to Dallas

I hate big airports and airline travel,
glad I don't have to do it
for a job anymore.

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Awesome thread Earl. Inspiring and Informative. I was wondering if you might have any additional information regarding rez size in relation to the number of plants. The only figure I saw you drop throughout the thread was 5 gal/plant for your setup. I was rather confused by that figure because your rez holds much more than 20 gal. Currently, I am constructing an aeroponic system similar to yours. The primary difference being that I intend to use only one rez instead of two, and I need it to support 8 plants. In order to solve the problem of heat in my rez, I have decided to mod either a Rubbermaid or Coleman cooler equipped with a water chiller to serve as my rez. The problem I am facing is that the coolers only come in 75 qt. (18.75 gal), 100 qt. (25 gal), and 150 qt. (37.5 gal). Please note, it is my intention to connect my rez to an RO water supply tank using a float valve. However, I don't wish to consistently spike the PH and ppm of my rez. Therefore, I want to make sure my rez is, as you said, large enough to maintain consistent levels of whatever and small enough to fit in my growing area. I'm trying to build dual aero setups that hold 8 plants a piece. The Aero systems themselves (rez included) should fit into into a 3' to 40" area except for a Dehumidified and my RO rez tank.

Also, I intend to grow using a modified SoG method of a limited vegetative growth period. With that said, I don't intend for my plants to get above three to four feet tall. I have already invested time into locating a strain that is already squat to begin with. I am not sure if this matters.

The problem I am facing is that the coolers only come in 75 qt. (18.75 gal), 100 qt. (25 gal), and 150 qt. (37.5 gal)..

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There is at least one aero grow using 1 gl per plant.

He reports it is working OK,
but I haven't "seen" the end result.
Maybe he will "pop in" here
and let us know how it's going.

The size of your plants,
and your grow room VPD,
will affect the optimum rez volume.

Please note, it is my intention to connect my rez to an RO water supply tank using a float valve. However, I don't wish to consistently spike the PH and ppm of my rez. Therefore, I want to make sure my rez is, as you said, large enough to maintain consistent levels of whatever and small enough to fit in my growing area

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The float valve feeding from my RO rez,
is what really makes the system work.

I think you will find
that your rez
will be very stable,
if you are feeding it with RO.

I can teach you how to buffer your solution for long term pH stability,
of course you can't get lazy, you still need regular flushing.

My tubs are large, 56gl,
but my 6 inch pipes go into the sides,
so this limits the amount each tub holds,
to 15gl per side.

I like growing tall plants.

The top of the Space Shuttle's 6 inch pipes
are just 20 inches off of the floor,
giving it 74 inches vertical grow space,
allowing me to gorw a 60 inch plant last time..
(next time 70")

As a result, my rez volume is limited to 30gls,
but I don't want to grow more than 4 plants at once.

I am modifying the space shuttle,
placing the main spray pump outside of the rez,
instead of being submerged.

This will allow me to lower my gl/ plant
to fit whatever I have growing at the time.

Before, she required a minimum of 18 gl
just to submerge the big spray pump.

Now I will have the option of adjusting my gl/plant
to meet the "phase of growth" requirements during veg,
when the plants are small,
and bloom, when they have grown to 6 footers.

The Shuttle is in for some upgrades.



And I spent $50 on new fittings for my RO rez.

Those 1/2" bulkhead fittings are $19 ea.

Be sure and send me a link
when you get your aero set up.


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Damn Earl, sittin' here in amazement! I was in Korat, Thailand in the early 70's. Been looking for that same luv'in feeling ever since. Thai-Pink Floyd are joined at the hip. Recently built your design (a few mods) and fletch's designs to try them out. The ones that I like, I'll keep, the others a friend will take. Got about a grand invested so far. Will add to as needed. Waiting on some Querkle seeds for a first grow at the present. After looking over this grow, the space shuttle is first up! You are an inspiration Brother! By-the-way, Stark co salutes you. Peace

Thanks for checking out my Space Shuttle

Get some of this PC,
if you want that thai experience again.

Can you show me some pix of your machine
and your design improvement?

Where is Stark co?
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Football Hall Of Fame my man. I plan on trying different strains just for the fun of it. Happened onto this web site a few months ago and growing my own has always a dream of mine so I said what the hell, go for it. I am a novices' novice right now, but everyone had to start somewhere. This site has been a goto for me. I particularly like your posts, fletch, and subcool. Many thanks!!
Funny how you never forget that thai stick is'nt it? Here are a few of the photos.
Peace Brother

Triple Beam said:

Football Hall Of Fame my man. I plan on trying different strains just for the fun of it. Happened onto this web site a few months ago and growing my own has always a dream of mine so I said what the hell, go for it. I am a novices' novice right now, but everyone had to start somewhere. This site has been a goto for me. I particularly like your posts, fletch, and subcool. Many thanks!!
Funny how you never forget that thai stick is'nt it? Here are a few of the photos.
Peace Brother

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Are you going to patent all those designs?

Why so many?

Do you use them to grow,
they all look brand new?

Looks like you are starting a hydro museum.

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Triple Beam, I would really like to see better (much larger) pictures of your designs along with explanations. Could you please provide? Thanks in advance.

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Triple Beam, I would really like to see better (much larger) pictures of your designs along with explanations. Could you please provide? Thanks in advance.

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Actually, you are in the thread that tripplebeam got one of those ideas off of. Search aeroponics and you will find the other designz by filthy fletch.

Earl said:

Are you going to patent all those designs?

Why so many?

Do you use them to grow,
they all look brand new?

Looks like you are starting a hydro museum.

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I bet he thought he would come on here and post pics and people would be asking to buy them... Thats the only reason I could think of someone wasting all that time to show just a setup and not grow with it...

LOL, No Patents. It kind of snowballed when I started to build an aero unit. I have two grow areas, one small (6'x6'x6') converted ice shanty, and a spare room. I built Fletchs' post design first w/6 plt cap, then smaller unit to have another crop started. What about clones? Thus, the very small unit. I saw your space shuttle and thought hey I've got most of the parts left over and the 6" pipe in storage in the barn, why not. A few spiffs later I had damn aero units sitting everywhere. I really enjoy building sh*t. All this time, two and a half months, I was waiting for the Doc to get me some beans. Never happened, had to go elsewhere. Live and learn I guess. Two orders lost to US customs! That really pissed me off! The Doc was great, but Brad at Hempdepot showed me where I messed up. That was the first time I ever attempted to order beans in the mail. Had a bag of old beans I had saved over the years, but could'nt get any of them to germ. Good smoke too! Anyway, built these units to kill the time. Made them all where I can tear them down quickly and place them in storage when not in use. I just what to grow some herb for personal use when needed. The chiller and pumps was the largest ticketed items, plus charcoal for my scrubber. What surprised me was the cost for the nutes and ph and tc meter. A freind kept telling me that was all a one time investment, once you got it your set. True I guess. I remember you said in one of your posts you can have this or spend some money and get this. I don't like wasting my time and I buy good equipment. The same friend will take off my hands what I don't like or don't need. As for more pics, I'll try to get some more together. Yep, they are all new, alas no beans yet. All dressed up and no place to go! Six days a week twelve hours a day at work sucks also! Getting too old for this sh*t. Man this smoke on the street now is disgusting and top dollar. I remember good smoke for ten an oz that would blow this sh*t away! I used to pay a buck fifty a brick for the thai stick in the seventies. Man, what happened? Red bud at twenty an oz had better be good. We lost something along the way. I want my own stash and know what I have in the bag. I like your idea on sealing the smoke in jars. I'm going to check that out.
Peace Brother

Actually Earl asked to see them and that was the only photos I had. I sell nothing. I keep a very low profile. I believe in giving thanks to those that help me get the job done, if I can help others along the way the better. Alot of people on this site really jump to conclusions. Signs of the times I guess. Another reason to stay out of the public eye. I don't have time for the bullshit that tears down instead of being encouraging. Give peace a chance and chill out. Sit down and listen to some Floyd. When I get some viable beans, I'll grow my stash. Bye the way, I offered them to my friend for free as that's what friends do.
Peace brother

You are a hard working guy triplebeam,
I gotta admire that.

You work 72 hours a week
and you got time to build all those systems.

Now I'm not doubting you built them,
or that you work that much, 'cause I have also,
but I couldn't have all that growing equipment around,
without planting at least some bag seed.

I think if you want people to share beans with you,
you need to have a grow journal somewhere,
and have a link to it in your signature.

Send me a PM and we can talk some more,
I want to help you, if I can.

I didn't jump to a conclusion, I made an educated guess, since this is the third thread I have seen u in with your pics of 20 unused aero setups so I figured this was how u were promoting your stuff.... Sorry, didn't know it would offend u.

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Back to u Earl....

Earl, is that Mylar behind the bulbs on the reflectors? I need to make a couple cheap reflectors, but I don't want to start a fire, any tips?

They are aluminum reflectors,
from High Tech Garden Supply

HTGsupply.com

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Sorry Hydro,
It did piss me off. I just came off a long hard week and my scottish temper came out.This is the second forum I've ever posted on, the other is for fishing. Don't like big brother checking me out. Not paranoid but stating a fact. All internet chatter in basically routed through three companies. Ninety percent goes through Level 3 communications in Col. The state I live in joined the matrix program and hired an ex-druglord to run it. Thanks George Bush! Used to live the easy rider life and learned to be careful. Used to hang with some rough hombres. Never really let go of the late sixties, early seventies lifestyle. Maybe I should have introduced myself. I'm an old hippie, take used computers in on trade fix them and give them to needy families, build beautiful handcrafted windchimes and give to friends and the elderly, no charge to the elderly or churches for computer repair, make handcrafted lures for crappie and walleye fishermen (some musky) airbrushed or powder painted. Killer lures! All at no charge except to have some enjoyment in life. Plus work a full time job. This is probably not the forum for this but there it is. If I have two I'll give you one or share what I have. I sell nothing. I tinker and fish to RELAX. Earl, when I am allowed to PM I may take you up on your offer. Thanks again.
Peace Brother

Triple Beam said:

Sorry Hydro,
It did piss me off. I just came off a long hard week and my scottish temper came out.This is the second forum I've ever posted on, the other is for fishing. Don't like big brother checking me out. Not paranoid but stating a fact. All internet chatter in basically routed through three companies. Ninety percent goes through Level 3 communications in Col. The state I live in joined the matrix program and hired an ex-druglord to run it. Thanks George Bush! Used to live the easy rider life and learned to be careful. Used to hang with some rough hombres. Never really let go of the late sixties, early seventies lifestyle. Maybe I should have introduced myself. I'm an old hippie, take used computers in on trade fix them and give them to needy families, build beautiful handcrafted windchimes and give to friends and the elderly, no charge to the elderly or churches for computer repair, make handcrafted lures for crappie and walleye fishermen (some musky) airbrushed or powder painted. Killer lures! All at no charge except to have some enjoyment in life. Plus work a full time job. This is probably not the forum for this but there it is. If I have two I'll give you one or share what I have. I sell nothing. I tinker and fish to RELAX. Earl, when I am allowed to PM I may take you up on your offer. Thanks again.
Peace Brother

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It's cool, I shouldn't have came off like such an ass. So u just like to tinker and make shit, I can dig that. I think it is cool that u do all that stuff for people, and for no charge! U seem like a real nice guy so Im sorry for being a dick. Now lets get this thread back on track. If u want good seeds, there are ways to get them off the record. I could link u to a good site or two, and a post that shows you how to pay for them w/o putting your name in a paper trail... Let me know.

Earl said:

They are aluminum reflectors,
from High Tech Garden Supply

HTGsupply.com

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Thanks Earl... Also, I just got the SM101 Ph meter and so far so good. Can I just leave it in the rez? or is it better if it is cleaned and stored after use?

I leave mine in the rez,
except during my flush,
when I remove the probe
to prevent it being in RO
until I add the nutes.

Moving your probe around,
will cause it to loose calibration.

Try not to bang your probe on anything.

If you have two probes, like tds and pH,
they should be at least three inches apart in your rez,
or the readings may be affected.

I recommend calibrating your meter at least once a month.

When I pull the probe to flush the rez,
I put it in a vial of cal fluid 4.01
while I do my nute changes.

Sometimes I do a quick calibration while I fill my rez.

Most times the meter is right on,
and when it wasn't,
it was because it was time to replace the probe.

I get one and a half grows from a probe.

As soon as they get slow, I pitch them in the trash.

Budget $50-70 per grow, for meters and probes.

I have unknowingly trusted a faulty probe,
and the result was not a happy plant.

Now I use two meters,
to cross check against one failing.

The slightest disagreement, and both meters get calibrated and evaluated.

I also keep a spare probe,
which only has a 12-18 month shelf life.

When you have a one thousand dollar plant's life depending on your meter,
you tend to not sweat the $50 for a spare probe.