alien defiency or what???

Holy Grail 888

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Oh i see. just be careful with any indoor only plants as they will catch bugs etc if in the same cab.
it took me a little time to understand the mindset many years ago that its best to relax and let them almost do themselves. great that your using indoor and outdoor to grow. i had a much tastier yield few summers ago doing that.
they love fresh air and will repay you in the taste..

what strains are 1,2 and 3 ?

cool grow and thanks for sharing !
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Holy Grail 888 said:
i dont agree that it looks like this, sorry ! however im interested to see how you diagnosed these symptoms from such a relatively young outdoor reared plant.

if anything thats what the spots are... diagnosing symptoms that arent there then adding shit to it.
i know folks that have grown weed for years and they have still not understood the idea that cannabis almost does itself !
just add water ! dont fuck it up. instead they always have strange colored leaves (whitened and yellowing ) and the only thing that keeps it going is the life left in the plant... then more shit gets added... it goes on . the yield ends up being shit and the extended flushing is the only good thing that trys flush the wasted crap out. at the end salt build up and tide marks around the pot... i blame most peoples interpration of the high times "advanced techniques" or some fancy crap they read somewhere.

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So yoir telling me you get great yields using only high quality soil like happy frog? Thats what i did.. a month later they started lookin sick.. i put nitrogen and it worked a day later..
 
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Holy Grail 888 said:
Oh i see. just be careful with any indoor only plants as they will catch bugs etc if in the same cab.
it took me a little time to understand the mindset many years ago that its best to relax and let them almost do themselves. great that your using indoor and outdoor to grow. i had a much tastier yield few summers ago doing that.
they love fresh air and will repay you in the taste..

what strains are 1,2 and 3 ?

cool grow and thanks for sharing !
bongsmilie
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1,2,3 arent my favorites. As for strains.. not sure.. i was in a biker group.. they wanted me to grow for em awhile back and i did.. the seeds came from a bud so sticky it stuck to his glass window the entire time we talked.. lol
 
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So yoir telling me you get great yields using only high quality soil like happy frog? Thats what i did.. a month later they started lookin sick.. i put nitrogen and it worked a day later..
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sorry im not familiar with happy frog soil as im in the UK. Our bagged soils tend to be hot .. many times too hot. People mistake if for a deficiency then add shit and things dont improve. 9/10 times thats a prob here.

doing nothing is simply better in many cases . if your case is different? ive seen nothing that shows this given the size / age of the plant.

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sorry im not familiar with happy frog soil as im in the UK. Our bagged soils tend to be hot .. many times too hot. People mistake if for a deficiency then add shit and things dont improve. 9/10 times thats a prob here.

doing nothing is simply better in many cases . if your case is different? ive seen nothing that shows this given the size / age of the plant.

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So im good? Sorry a little bongsmilie
 
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I barely sprinkled different organic granuals on each.. a little nitrogen, phosphorus, trace elements, worm casting, lime.. like.. not even a table spoon each.
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And if you notice, the reaction of the plant... was very slight, it only nuts burned them in a few little spots.
 
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Holy Grail 888 said:
looks fine ... why not do a test side by side and add no nutes all the way through for one girl?
then see how less is more really works next time ?

lol... dont be sorry ! im greatful you shared your grow.

thankyou.bongsmilie
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Good idea i followd you.. ill keep you updated at least twice a week. I put my favorite one in a larger container today and sprinkled lime in the new soil.. less than a table spoon:cool:
 

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no nute burns.. nute burns start with redish brown tips then the spreads along the edges then leaves will flare..

the rest looks healthy. so imo the boron def was caused by ph that is off. with organic soil. ph is irrelevant, id say brew a tea with worm castings, compost, kelp meal , and alfalfa meal.. that should cover iit. you can also strain a little bit and use as a foliar too.

most issues with soil cam easily be fixed with teas.

also at least twice a week do a foliar spray of kelp meal and aloe vera. (not bottled kelp) . foliar spray ipm's (intergrated pest management) once or twice a week , brew a tea of dried stinging nettle , dried rosemary, dried lavender. once in a while add cayenne peppers


read these threads

https://www.rollitup.org/t/recycled-organic-living-soil-rols-and-no-till-thread.636057/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/total-noob-using-teas-and-i-am-a-believer.676040/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/beneficial-indigenous-micro-organisms-or-bim.762400/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/vermicomposters-unite-official-worm-farmers-thread.637587/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/so-who-here-is-growing-in-true-organic-living-soil.583341/
 
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hyroot said:
no nute burns.. nute burns start with redish brown tips then the spreads along the edges then leaves will flare..

the rest looks healthy. so imo the boron def was caused by ph that is off. with organic soil. ph is irrelevant, id say brew a tea with worm castings, compost, kelp meal , and alfalfa meal.. that should cover iit. you can also strain a little bit and use as a foliar too.

most issues with soil cam easily be fixed with teas.

also at least twice a week do a foliar spray of kelp meal and aloe vera. (not bottled kelp) . foliar spray ipm's (intergrated pest management) once or twice a week , brew a tea of dried stinging nettle , dried rosemary, dried lavender. once in a while add cayenne peppers


read these threads

https://www.rollitup.org/t/recycled-organic-living-soil-rols-and-no-till-thread.636057/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/total-noob-using-teas-and-i-am-a-believer.676040/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/beneficial-indigenous-micro-organisms-or-bim.762400/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/vermicomposters-unite-official-worm-farmers-thread.637587/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/so-who-here-is-growing-in-true-organic-living-soil.583341/
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Thanks for the help ill have them memorized and tea? Meaning?. Adding some stuff in water or actually boiling water?
 

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Thanks for the help ill have them memorized and tea? Meaning?. Adding some stuff in water or actually boiling water?
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brew - fill up a 5 gal bucket with water. get an air pump and air stones. aerate water for a day. add molasses. aerate for an hour. then add everything else. molasses is only needed if adding compost and worm castings. nutrient teas do not require molasses. brew for 36- 48 hours


molasses is food stock for the microbes plus nutes and a chelating agent. sodium sulfate in molasses also neutralizes chems in tap water and breaks down chloramine into ammonia.
 
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hyroot said:
brew - fill up a 5 gal bucket with water. get an air pump and air stones. aerate water for a day. add molasses. aerate for an hour. then add everything else. molasses is only needed if adding compost and worm castings. nutrient teas do not require molasses. brew for 36- 48 hours


molasses is food stock for the microbes plus nutes and a chelating agent. sodium sulfate in molasses also neutralizes chems in tap water and breaks down chloramine into ammonia.
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How often do i feed with molasses?
 
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