All Cree Led Plus WaterFarm With Attached Screen Grow(The Dawgie Dawg Style)

jela10 said:

Brothra Dawg'insan, that excuse sucks, cause we know where you'd be a browsin after a 7-day dry spell, and it ain't bein here on RIU. Kiddin aside, you got them lights working hard my friend...nice show for my poor eyes!
Keep on truck-in!

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Brother jela I Tell What Sucks Is Reloading All My Fucking Programs
But Im Currently In The Middle Of Some Stress Relife Harvesting My Nasty Azz Midget Becky

heckler73 said:

Is that the secret of perfection?

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Brother heckler Perfection Is 5 Out Of 10 On The Volume Knob .Ive Noticed In Some Of My Other Grows That No Matter How Long I Run Them The Trichs Dont Turn Amber.When I Grew In The70's To Mid 80's I Would Chop When My Calyax Quit Swelling.Now That I Have A Scope Ive Also Notice When My Trich Heads Start To Lean Over That My Calyax Will Soon Stop Swelling.Plus I Find This Is Also When My Nasty Azz Ladies Are The Most Sticky Also.

Mx822 said:

Superb job there dawg truly awesome skills you got there ! I'm 100% sold on these a51 lights man your fully doing em some justice keep up the good work dawg

Peace

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Oh Hell Yea Brother Mx These New Area 51 SGS's Are The Real Deal.To Be Honest When You Grow With A Quality Light Plus Good Genetics It Makes Ya Look Real Good Brother

PetFlora said:

ten letters needed but no introduction

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Brother Pet I Thought It Was Lick Their Pussy UnderWater And Blow Bubbles Up Their ButtHole

MedScientist said:

WooHoo! Another RIGHTEOUS BUMP!

You are doing an AMAZING Job my Friend! Did you have your Pics backed up SOMEWHERE? Would be a shame to Loose ALL the unposted pics of THIS Journey!

Peace Brother! and Peace and LOVE to ALL! (past-present-future)

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Na Brother Med I Didnt But On The BrightSide My Computer Run's Fast As Hell Now LMAO.Peace And Dreamed I Was An Eskmio


Ok Brothers And Sisters My Break Is Over And My Bellie Is Full Of Pizza.I Have To Get Back To Becky's Harvest Peace And My Momma Cried Nanook A NonoDont Be A Naughty Eskmio

I never get amber trics, but realizing that once the caps lean over that I am close enough, is my new harvest technique

And this is why your 'puter blew up Brother Pet I Thought It Was Lick Their Pussy UnderWater And Blow Bubbles Up Their ButtHole

PetFlora said:

I never get amber trics, but realizing that once the caps lean over that I am close enough, is my new harvest technique

And this is why your 'puter blew up Brother Pet I Thought It Was Lick Their Pussy UnderWater And Blow Bubbles Up Their ButtHole

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Naaa But It Will MAKE Your DoorBell Ring At 3am

Well I Have Harvested Becky And She Will Hang Untill Tuesday Morning,I Will Have Pics Then But I Will Tell Ya She Was A Pure Biotch And Didnt Give Up Much Booty.I Think I Pissed Her Off When I Loaded Her Canopy With 800 umols During Weeks 5-8 Of Flower.Now As For Her sexy Nasty Azz Sister Babs Is A Pure Slut And She Yielded To My Every Command Hum Hum Hum.Peace And The Bigger The Headach The Bigger The Pill Slip Lippin And Ego Trippen And Body Snatching Babs Is Going To Blow Your Fucking Mind Micro Biological Speaking When Babs Starts A Curning And Burning And Turning It Will Make Your Atoms Move So Fast Expanding Your Molcules Causing A Friction Fire Burning You On Your Nutrons Causing You To Scream Hit Me In The Photon Baby


Damn Im Stoned Lmao Hell Im Higher Than Graffie Pussy

Ok The 3rd Pic Is Babs Before Her PreHarvest Trim

Soooooooooo good dawg looks tasty as !!!!!
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sorry to jack the thread too but have any of you guys had problems getting a response back from the guys at Area 51 at all I've sent a few emails but had no luck in getting a response from them?

Mx822 said:

Soooooooooo good dawg looks tasty as !!!!!
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sorry to jack the thread too but have any of you guys had problems getting a response back from the guys at Area 51 at all I've sent a few emails but had no luck in getting a response from them?

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Whats up Brother Mx.It Was A Holiday Weekend So Maybe They Stepped Away And Relaxed.Im Sure You Will Be Hearing From Them Shortly

Bruudda Dawg, it's the pheno...stop being so modest. You are an expert grower...and you are teaching others. Some nice gloss on that floss even if only 2.5oz returned.

The Dawg said:

As You Can See Becky Didnt Put Out,Her Yeild Was Way Off.I Have Growen This Power Skunk Strain 4 Other Times And I Havent Seen This Short Azz Pheno.All My Other Grows Have Been In The Babs Range Big Bud Nasty Azz Skunks.But What She Did Give Up Is Some Frosty Dense Buddage Even The Small Buds Were Impressive.Now I Have 2 Theroies Why This Happened 1)Bad Genetics Always Got To Blame The Genetics For My Screw Up's 2) My Refusing To Listen To Myself And Kept My Umols at 800ish At Canopy Level Weeks 5-8 Of Flower.But As Brother Psuagro Would Say That I Always Say We First Learn To Grow Then We Grow To Learn Yea Becky Yeilded A Poltry 70 Grams
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I find 800ish PPm is a fantastic mid-late flowering solution! Sometimes just before I flush, I'll go a bit higher; sometimes as high as 1100ish PPm.... but I've found out the hard way that it's better to run your ladies at 85% than 110%!

nice buds dawg, still a very respectable harvest yield from one girl. those nugs look dank , enjoy them! congratulations!!

Hey, Mr Dawg! Your grow journal just caught my interest today because of the CREE LED panel you're using and I read thru most of this tonight. I really like the results. Babs looks pretty fuckin awesome! But I don't know what your previous grows have looked like to compare her to. Other factors could have contributed to the big colas you got here.

So all other things being equal, what's your impression of the area-51 lights? Did they perform as well as or better than say a 400 watt HPS or MH lamp?

Did they keep from heating your tent as much as an HID lamp would?

I have a pretty small grow cabinet (around 3 feet x 1.5 feet x 4 feet tall), because I have to hide it away in a closet so visitors don't see it. The SGS-160 would fit nicely in that space. But height is a problem. I'm using fluorescent lights (I know, don't gag). The good thing about them is that my plants grow all the way up to them almost to the point of touching the tubes. But from reading your journal, I gather that it isn't good to let these bright LED lights get too close to your canopy. I was wondering whether there's a way that these can be used closer to your plants during flower by adjusting the light output or turning some off or ??? Is heat the reason for keeping that distance or just too many lumens?

GREAT JOURNAL!

daveroller said:

Hey, Mr Dawg! Your grow journal just caught my interest today because of the CREE LED panel you're using and I read thru most of this tonight. I really like the results. Babs looks pretty fuckin awesome! But I don't know what your previous grows have looked like to compare her to. Other factors could have contributed to the big colas you got here.

So all other things being equal, what's your impression of the area-51 lights? Did they perform as well as or better than say a 400 watt HPS or MH lamp?

Did they keep from heating your tent as much as an HID lamp would?

I have a pretty small grow cabinet (around 3 feet x 1.5 feet x 4 feet tall), because I have to hide it away in a closet so visitors don't see it. The SGS-160 would fit nicely in that space. But height is a problem. I'm using fluorescent lights (I know, don't gag). The good thing about them is that my plants grow all the way up to them almost to the point of touching the tubes. But from reading your journal, I gather that it isn't good to let these bright LED lights get too close to your canopy. I was wondering whether there's a way that these can be used closer to your plants during flower by adjusting the light output or turning some off or ??? Is heat the reason for keeping that distance or just too many lumens?

GREAT JOURNAL!

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You can get bleaching from having LED's too close. They're also called "hash tops", as they usually turn bright white and look trichome laced.

4 feet shouldn't be too bad, you can run the LED's a little closer, you just lose a bit of footprint. In your case that shouldn't be an issue because you area is smaller than the footprint of the SGS-160.

jela10 said:

Bruudda Dawg, it's the pheno...stop being so modest. You are an expert grower...and you are teaching others. Some nice gloss on that floss even if only 2.5oz returned.

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Thanks Brother jela But I Did Run The Led To Low On This Lady.All The Signs Were Their However I Was Using A Par Meter And I Had To Prove It To Myself That Indeed Running My Led Would Stunt The Flowering Process.I Have Seen This With My Other Grows Run The Led Too Close And Your Calyxs Will Quit Swelling And Your Hairs Will Look Old And Weathered While Your Trichs Will Look Under Developed.I Will Say That M.O.A.B. Saved My Azz And Beefed My Buds Up So I Could Pull 70 Grams

Beefbisquit said:

I find 800ish PPm is a fantastic mid-late flowering solution! Sometimes just before I flush, I'll go a bit higher; sometimes as high as 1100ish PPm.... but I've found out the hard way that it's better to run your ladies at 85% than 110%!

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Brother Beef I Was Talking About My Umols Being 800ish At Canopy Level.Now My Ladies Dictate How High My Ppms Will Go.I Do Agree With Ya 800 Ppm Is A Safe Range

The Dawg said:

Thanks Brother jela But I Did Run The Led To Low On This Lady.All The Signs Were Their However I Was Using A Par Meter And I Had To Prove It To Myself That Indeed Running My Led Would Stunt The Flowering Process.I Have Seen This With My Other Grows Run The Led Too Close And Your Calyxs Will Quit Swelling And Your Hairs Will Look Old And Weathered While Your Trichs Will Look Under Developed.I Will Say That M.O.A.B. Saved My Azz And Beefed My Buds Up So I Could Pull 70 Grams

Brother Beef I Was Talking About My Umols Being 800ish At Canopy Level.Now My Ladies Dictate How High My Ppms Will Go.I Do Agree With Ya 800 Ppm Is A Safe Range

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LOLOLOL! Nice...

I ramp my ladies up from about 300-800ppm through flower, peaking as high as 1100ppm sometimes, if the bitches like it.

My umoles, oh jesus I don't know. The AF-240 is 1700umoles @ 12" but I have three other panels in there too for side lighting so who the hell knows!

The Dawg said:

Thanks Brother jela But I Did Run The Led To Low On This Lady.All The Signs Were Their However I Was Using A Par Meter And I Had To Prove It To Myself That Indeed Running My Led Would Stunt The Flowering Process.I Have Seen This With My Other Grows Run The Led Too Close And Your Calyxs Will Quit Swelling And Your Hairs Will Look Old And Weathered While Your Trichs Will Look Under Developed.I Will Say That M.O.A.B. Saved My Azz And Beefed My Buds Up So I Could Pull 70 Grams

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Brotha Dawg,
Could you explain what you mean here in more detail?
Are you saying the LED was too far away (i.e. <800 &#956;mol) which caused stunting?
But putting them too close ( ??? &#956;mol) will keep the medicine under-developed?

Dr.Amber Trichome said:

nice buds dawg, still a very respectable harvest yield from one girl. those nugs look dank , enjoy them! congratulations!!

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Good Morning Sis I Agree Becky Is A SweetHeart And Her Smoke Should Be Off Da Hook.The Strain Of Power Skunk Spoiled Me In Da Past And To Be Honest I Was Hoping To Pull Over A Lb With This Grow.Oh Well Maybe Next Time

daveroller said:

Hey, Mr Dawg! Your grow journal just caught my interest today because of the CREE LED panel you're using and I read thru most of this tonight. I really like the results. Babs looks pretty fuckin awesome! But I don't know what your previous grows have looked like to compare her to. Other factors could have contributed to the big colas you got here.

So all other things being equal, what's your impression of the area-51 lights? Did they perform as well as or better than say a 400 watt HPS or MH lamp?

Did they keep from heating your tent as much as an HID lamp would?

I have a pretty small grow cabinet (around 3 feet x 1.5 feet x 4 feet tall), because I have to hide it away in a closet so visitors don't see it. The SGS-160 would fit nicely in that space. But height is a problem. I'm using fluorescent lights (I know, don't gag). The good thing about them is that my plants grow all the way up to them almost to the point of touching the tubes. But from reading your journal, I gather that it isn't good to let these bright LED lights get too close to your canopy. I was wondering whether there's a way that these can be used closer to your plants during flower by adjusting the light output or turning some off or ??? Is heat the reason for keeping that distance or just too many lumens?

GREAT JOURNAL!

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Welcome Brother Daveroller.Ah I See Your Growing In A Stealth Cab Very Groovey Brother.My 1st Indoor Grow Was In A Cab That Was 36x22x65 And I Was Using A 400 Cmh.Now I Will Tell Ya That HPS In My Book Stands for Hot Piece Of Shit.I Formed My Opinon In The Late 70's To Mid 80's,Im A Old School Mh Grower.I Will Also Tell Ya That Im Not One To Say That A Certian Led Wattage Will Out Perform A Certain Hid Wattage.Thats Nothing But Hype Created By Assholes Resellers Of Cheaper Chineese Leds.Now That I Have A Couple Of Years Of Growing With Leds I Will Put My Area-51 Sgs-160(155 Watts) Up Against Any 400 Hid System In A GPW Compitition.I Have Never Growen With Fluro's But I Have Read In Others Journals That Leds Run Cooler Than Fluro's Of Similar Wattage And Leds Run Way Cooler Than Hid Systems

Now About Light Heights.I Belive Light Heights Are Strain Related When Growing With Leds.Lets Look At My Current Grow Babs Led Is At 14 Inches And Has About 960ish Umols Being Deliver To Her Canopy And You Can See The Big Buds She Is Producing.When Beckys Led Was At 17 Inches She Stoped Swelling And When I Raised It Up To 20 Inches She Started Swelling Again.I Also Seen This In My LaDiva Auto Grow.1 Plant Was Loving The Light Height While The Other 1 Had Stoped Swelling And When I Raised My Led Up 2 Inches Both Plants Love Me Long Time.The Reason I Belive Is That Leds Deliver The Light Differently Also They Use Lens To Focus Their Light.I Maybe Totaly Off Base With This Theory But It Makes Since To Me.

Now Can You Grow Use The Sgs-160 In A 4ft Cab Hell Ya Brother.I Belive You Will Kill Your GPW Over Your Best Fluro Grow.I Will Add A Link To Brother Djwimbo Grow.He Also Had Height Restrictions And He Nailed It With 1 Sgs And I Belive His Led Was 12 Inches Above His Canopy.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/656712-djs-led-medical-grow.html

heckler73 said:

Brotha Dawg,
Could you explain what you mean here in more detail?
Are you saying the LED was too far away (i.e. <800 &#956;mol) which caused stunting?
But putting them too close ( ??? &#956;mol) will keep the medicine under-developed?

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Ok Brother Im Claming Stoner Moment.I Left Out Running My Led To Close Will Stunt The Swelling Process..You See I Was Running With A Par Meter This Grow And I Was Assuming 800 Umoles Was A Good Safe Base For My Light Heights And The Reason My Lady Stoped Swelling Couldnt Have Been Too Many Umols Wrong Again....What Im Saying To the Nekkid Eye Becky Looked Done Calyx Had Stopped Swelling And Her Hairs Had Turned Orange Which Is How I Use To Determined When My Ladies Were Ready For Harvest Back In The Day.But When I Looked At My Trics Under My Loope They Were Very Under Developed For The Age The Bud Looked.

The Dawg said:

Ok Brother Im Claming Stoner Moment.I Left Out Running My Led To Close Will Stunt The Swelling Process..You See I Was Running With A Par Meter This Grow And I Was Assuming 800 Umoles Was A Good Safe Base For My Light Heights And The Reason My Lady Stoped Swelling Couldnt Have Been Too Many Umols Wrong Again....What Im Saying To the Nekkid Eye Becky Looked Done Calyx Had Stopped Swelling And Her Hairs Had Turned Orange Which Is How I Use To Determined When My Ladies Were Ready For Harvest Back In The Day.But When I Looked At My Trics Under My Loope They Were Very Under Developed For The Age The Bud Looked.

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AH HA!
So the EXTRA umols were causing an advanced aging or maturing of the calyxes?
This is very interesting... It's making me wonder about how to use that as an advantage, IF it is valid. Not necessarily for cannabis, mind you...
Although, that's an extra variable which may cause some headaches for ganja artists

I guess it also adds to the reasons why hairs can't be trusted as a gauge. One has to use a loupe or scope.
Ugh... that brings up another question though. Assuming this effect is valid, does it mean the medicine WON'T develop under those conditions? Or will it just take longer?

The Dawg said:

Welcome Brother Daveroller.Ah I See Your Growing In A Stealth Cab Very Groovey Brother.My 1st Indoor Grow Was In A Cab That Was 36x22x65 And I Was Using A 400 Cmh.Now I Will Tell Ya That HPS In My Book Stands for Hot Piece Of Shit.I Formed My Opinon In The Late 70's To Mid 80's,Im A Old School Mh Grower.I Will Also Tell Ya That Im Not One To Say That A Certian Led Wattage Will Out Perform A Certain Hid Wattage.Thats Nothing But Hype Created By Assholes Resellers Of Cheaper Chineese Leds.Now That I Have A Couple Of Years Of Growing With Leds I Will Put My Area-51 Sgs-160(155 Watts) Up Against Any 400 Hid System In A GPW Compitition.I Have Never Growen With Fluro's But I Have Read In Others Journals That Leds Run Cooler Than Fluro's Of Similar Wattage And Leds Run Way Cooler Than Hid Systems

Now About Light Heights.I Belive Light Heights Are Strain Related When Growing With Leds.Lets Look At My Current Grow Babs Led Is At 14 Inches And Has About 960ish Umols Being Deliver To Her Canopy And You Can See The Big Buds She Is Producing.When Beckys Led Was At 17 Inches She Stoped Swelling And When I Raised It Up To 20 Inches She Started Swelling Again.I Also Seen This In My LaDiva Auto Grow.1 Plant Was Loving The Light Height While The Other 1 Had Stoped Swelling And When I Raised My Led Up 2 Inches Both Plants Love Me Long Time.The Reason I Belive Is That Leds Deliver The Light Differently Also They Use Lens To Focus Their Light.I Maybe Totaly Off Base With This Theory But It Makes Since To Me.

Now Can You Grow Use The Sgs-160 In A 4ft Cab Hell Ya Brother.I Belive You Will Kill Your GPW Over Your Best Fluro Grow.I Will Add A Link To Brother Djwimbo Grow.He Also Had Height Restrictions And He Nailed It With 1 Sgs And I Belive His Led Was 12 Inches Above His Canopy.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/656712-djs-led-medical-grow.html

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Thanks, brotha Dawg...

Is it possible with the SGS-160 to turn off any of those blocks of 6 LEDs individually? Maybe I could turn off a couple of them if necessary. I hate the thought of turning off lights, but I wonder if that would fix the problem if the canopy gets too close to them in a height-restricted space like my stealth cabinet.

If I can raise the money, I definitely want to get one of these area-51 lights now!