Anyone use Mar pro ii 128's?

Snaddehat

Snaddehat

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Not at all. Why would you think that, lol? I have done my research on diodes, efficiency, and other relevant stuff though. It suits most people well to be skeptical of overstated marketing claims, especially when it comes to Mars Hydro.
 
DarthPlagueis

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Snaddehat said:
Not at all. Why would you think that, lol? I have done my research on diodes, efficiency, and other relevant stuff though. It suits most people well to be skeptical of overstated marketing claims, especially when it comes to Mars Hydro.
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Because you claim that a 750w LED light can't outperform a glorified street lamp that puts out about 40% of those watts into heat(3600 BTU). Have you personally used any Mars product though? Any at all? I've used 3 of their products and for the price, they were fine, not great. You can do quite well.

Can't wait till my COB is setup so I can experience these results, like I said I will be disappointed if this thing does not absolutely kill my old LED lights. Especially just seeing peoples post on RIU, I expect 2gpw

5 1212's set up in a X-wing shape with 260 watts being driven at 1400ma.
 
Snaddehat

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Ahemait said:
I know they had VERY mixed reviews and issues with previous models.

I'm wondering if anyone uses the newest mars pro ii cree 128 and epistar models
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You can do way better than Mars with your money. You should look into COB lighting. Timbergrowlights.com offer excellent lights at affordable prices. Tasty Led and Northerngrowlights are also excellent. If you're into DIY and want to save some money, then throw a message to @CobKits
 
Snaddehat

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DarthPlagueis said:
Because you claim that a 750w LED light can't outperform a glorified street lamp that puts out about 40% of those watts into heat(3600 BTU). Have you personally used any Mars product though? Any at all? I've used 3 of their products and for the price, they were fine, not great. You can do quite well.

Can't wait till my COB is setup so I can experience these results, like I said I will be disappointed if this thing does not absolutely kill my old LED lights. Especially just seeing peoples post on RIU, I expect 2gpw

5 1212's set up in a X-wing shape with 260 watts being driven at 1400ma.
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You do realize that Epileds are no more efficient than HPS, right? In any case, you'll be happy with your COB's for sure.
 
Snaddehat

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Actually, just earlier today i posted a thread asking for actual data on Epileds. It's near impossible to find since the manufacturers won't disclose it, and we all know why... There are a lot of serious people around here that do extensive testing, and in my nearly 3 years here, i have yet to read anything positive about them compared to more reputable companies. The consensus is that they're around 20-30ish% in efficiency, which is terrible. This site is a great source for learning.
 
DarthPlagueis

DarthPlagueis

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Snaddehat said:
Give me some data to support your claims ;)
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You can find plenty of data about the inefficiency of HID, one of the main reasons LED lights are becoming the norm. Now I know cobs blow away single led, but I'd probably still say that 1000 watts of epi single LEDs will beat 1000 watts of HID in any case.

Growmau5 and medgrower both have plenty videos of HID par charts and comparing them to lights they have, obviously for growmau5 he is using his cob lights. Medgrower has a lot of videos of some cheap led lights that he used to be sponsored by. In any case, happy growing bud
 
BM9AGS

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Abiqua said:
and my 1st job was working for the company that developed the tech for astronauts to drink their pee in space....my 1st job, again the point of all that? I have degrees too, most useless pieces of shit at times. whats your point again. Your maff still sucks.....
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Wait there's tech to drink pee....so I was doing it wrong in Iraq? Fuck!!!
 
Yodaweed

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DarthPlagueis said:
Man you guys get so butthurt on this site it's literally unbelievable haha. Yeah I was a member on GC for 5 years, grew HID, LED, and fluro starting off....

It's ok though, because even though I've only been a member for less than a week, I've seen plenty of the BS you post...



Fuck your math, I got a degree in microbio and masters in botany, you can shove your math where the light don't hit buddy



No they have all CREE or ALL EPI, depending on which model you get. Cree have 4 chips, epi have 5



Is it the most efficient? Nah, definitely not man, but it's not a bad light. I've used both mars and amare, got similar results but the amare cost 200$ more.

I'm doing a COB build now, hopefully they give results like everyone says. The way you guys hype them up to be, I'll be pissed if I dont get 2gpw out of 250....
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The only BS posted here is coming from you, these lights are junk and it's a well known fact. Epiled and epistar leds are the worst lighting solution available, they are worse than HID lights.
 
BM9AGS

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DarthPlagueis said:
It's ridiculous that you guys don't even answer the OP's question and instead bash a user giving his honest opinion. What's ridiculous about a 750 watt led giving out over 1 gpw? That's ridiculous to you? I mean come on really!?



That's logical to you of course, but for someone who is starting off and maybe doesn't want to spend on excessive cooling costs may not find it illogical to buy a Mars Pro 160, which is like 300$ and can easily provide an adequate amount of medicine to a person in need? Does that sound illogical? because that is why this post was created, asking about a Mars 160
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No.....but only because I know of much better options and 1 watt produces The same heat whether its in a toaster or led light. Just makes it differently......

So not logical when $/w is shit with those lights and they use a lot of wattage. Timber grow lights would be what is spend the $300 on and get legit efficiency and yield over hid. Those mars don't do anything a HID can't do at same wattage. I'd say hid would even do better
 
DarthPlagueis

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BM9AGS said:
No.....but only because I know of much better options and 1 watt produces The same heat whether its in a toaster or led light. Just makes it differently......

So not logical when $/w is shit with those lights and they use a lot of wattage. Timber grow lights would be what is spend the $300 on and get legit efficiency and yield over hid. Those mars don't do anything a HID can't do at same wattage. I'd say hid would even do better
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You are right, 1 watt produces the same amount of heat, that's physics, but the dissipation rates vary between electronics I believe.

Yodaweed said:
The only BS posted here is coming from you, these lights are junk and it's a well known fact. Epiled and epistar leds are the worst lighting solution available, they are worse than HID lights.
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Aren't you the same guy who was bashing quantum boards and cobs...come on bruh
 
Nenno44

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I have actually used the Pro series and I can tell you they aren't any different from their other lights, same leds different package. can they grow sure. But since switching to cobs my g/w went way up. with mars pro the highest i got was .63g/w my first cob grow was 1.13g/w. I sold the mars off asap and haven't looked back
 
Abiqua

Abiqua

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BM9AGS said:
Wait there's tech to drink pee....so I was doing it wrong in Iraq? Fuck!!!
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wait what.....:) I thought about it in Afghanistan, was close....but just thought about it...eating goat was bad enough, lol. :peace:

I should say 2ndjob, my 1st was really pounding sand
 
BM9AGS

BM9AGS

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DarthPlagueis said:
You are right, 1 watt produces the same amount of heat, that's physics, but the dissipation rates vary between electronics I believe.



Aren't you the same guy who was bashing quantum boards and cobs...come on bruh
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Uhh no....QBs and cobs are epic. I bash amare.....but only because of a couple amare cronies
 
DarthPlagueis

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Nenno44 said:
I have actually used the Pro series and I can tell you they aren't any different from their other lights, same leds different package. can they grow sure. But since switching to cobs my g/w went way up. with mars pro the highest i got was .63g/w my first cob grow was 1.13g/w. I sold the mars off asap and haven't looked back
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0.63 isn't that bad, what were your results from? Sqft and plant size
Glad that cob kicked it up to 1.13, what type of system you running and in what size area?


BM9AGS said:
Uhh no....QBs and cobs are epic. I bash amare.....but only because of a couple amare cronies
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That was towards that Yoda guy, I saw him on Cobbys thread talking mad crap about Qb saying they were no better than Mars panels.
 
BM9AGS

BM9AGS

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DarthPlagueis said:
0.63 isn't that bad, what were your results from? Sqft and plant size
Glad that cob kicked it up to 1.13, what type of system you running and in what size area?




That was towards that Yoda guy, I saw him on Cobbys thread talking mad crap about Qb saying they were no better than Mars panels.
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Ohh yoda is a little well known as just an unhappy grower. So he shits on EVERYONES threads
 
Nenno44

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the mars and cobs both in a 4x4x7 i grow my plants in soil 2-3ish-ft tall lets say 1.5ish-ft wide. My cob is diy, 10 cxb3590 3500k 80cri and 6 clu048 2700k 90cri on a 3x3 frame and now i also use 730nm reds to speed up my grow.
 
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I personally own 2 mars pro 160's, and the bigger Cree model, also a mars 2 1200. I will trade them for 1000w hps. They are one of the least efficient lights out there. I use mine for back up only. I bought them because they are cheap. I also am running 2 clw 550's in a 5x5, they produce around 1 lb every 400 wats. I grew clones under both and clw blew mars out of water. The great thing about clw and timber you can actually speak to someone who speaks english, and both has great warranty. It took 6 weeks to get to drivers for mars 160, emails to china.I'm about to purchase from timber, the sales guy told me to check out the vero29, I have 10ft cieling, he said they have better spread than the cree, if you have the height. I can't run mars in summer to much heat, 15 degrees hotter than 1000w hps with a raptor reflector
 
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