Balls Out First Grow(Whie Widow Scrog, 430w Son Agro Aircooled, DWC, CO2)

quickrip

quickrip

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Integra I just purchased the minigen this week Was wondering how you liked yours. Im stoked on it, the size, low heat, etc... I will be running mine with no water cooling. Shouldnt be a prob based on the manufacture. How do you feel about doing it this way with a good AC. Im gonna run the c.a.p. ppm3 controller. Its very simple but it tells your current ppm level which the hydro innovations model doesnt. Which controller do you use and how is it workin for ya? Sorry for so many ?'s +rep for a great grow
 
Integra21

Integra21

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quickrip said:
Integra I just purchased the minigen this week Was wondering how you liked yours. Im stoked on it, the size, low heat, etc... I will be running mine with no water cooling. Shouldnt be a prob based on the manufacture. How do you feel about doing it this way with a good AC. Im gonna run the c.a.p. ppm3 controller. Its very simple but it tells your current ppm level which the hydro innovations model doesnt. Which controller do you use and how is it workin for ya? Sorry for so many ?'s +rep for a great grow
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I like mine alot. Same reasons as you, the size and not much heat. I water cool mine with drain to waste though. Should be fine with ac for you though. I use the setinel ppm controller and I like it alot.
 
DST

DST

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Hey Interga, did I read correctly that you are using Water cooled fans, not sure if it was your thread? My homeboy was telling me about them. He's an Electrical Design Engineer and uses Water Cooled Fans when he is designing Server Rooms. So like an AC but using water to produce the cool air.....

EDIT, just read the name of the thread and I guess that where I am getting mixed up (water cooled CO2)
 
Integra21

Integra21

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DST said:
Hey Interga, did I read correctly that you are using Water cooled fans, not sure if it was your thread? My homeboy was telling me about them. He's an Electrical Design Engineer and uses Water Cooled Fans when he is designing Server Rooms. So like an AC but using water to produce the cool air.....

EDIT, just read the name of the thread and I guess that where I am getting mixed up (water cooled CO2)
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Yeah, you caught it. The co2 is water cooled. I have all the plans figured out for water cooling my lights and room though, I just have to save up for the gear(its not cheap). I am planning on running a 1/2hp chiller with a 30gal cooler for a res and using 2 Ice Box's on my lights to cool them and the room. But all of that hardware is about $1500, so it will probly be a little bit before I get all of that and set it up.
 
DST

DST

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Integra21 said:
Yeah, you caught it. The co2 is water cooled. I have all the plans figured out for water cooling my lights and room though, I just have to save up for the gear(its not cheap). I am planning on running a 1/2hp chiller with a 30gal cooler for a res and using 2 Ice Box's on my lights to cool them and the room. But all of that hardware is about $1500, so it will probly be a little bit before I get all of that and set it up.
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Awesome, you got any links to check out equipment, I'll be waiting until the end of days for my mate to pitch up with a freebie, like he said he would (sorry tou put you down when you ain't around lad, haha)
I am looking at a rebuild of my small plot.
Peace
DST out.
 
Integra21

Integra21

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To start with a nice cooler for a res so its more efficient than a normal barrel
http://www.thegreathardwarestore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=120389&click=2744

Then 2 6" ice boxes on the lights. Should be enough to cool the lights and the room by up to 10F
http://www.growlightexpress.com/water-cooled-lights-8/ice-box-heat-exchanger-6-inch-306.html

And the most expensive part, the chiller
http://www.growlightexpress.com/water-chillers-60/ecoplus-1-2-hp-water-chiller-488.html

Then I need a pump to circulate it through the 2 Ice boxes and then to the minigen
http://www.growlightexpress.com/pumps-irrigation-41/water-pumps-43/mag-drive-pump-950-gph-278.html

after I have all of that, just the hardware and pvc to hook it all together and hook my inline fan to hydrogens fan thermostat controller and it should be golden. I plan on having the pump run the cold water up to the Ice Boxes, then exit out to the minigen, and then into the chiller and back into the res.
 
quickrip

quickrip

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Youve probably already seen it but there is a you tube video that notoriousb sent me with the guys from hydro innovations showing the whole room cooled by the chiller. Even a coil to cool the res. Its bad ass. Im very interested to go that direction. Seems like a great way to go. I cant wait to see it in action in your room.
 
DST

DST

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Integra21 said:
To start with a nice cooler for a res so its more efficient than a normal barrel
http://www.thegreathardwarestore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=120389&click=2744

Then 2 6" ice boxes on the lights. Should be enough to cool the lights and the room by up to 10F
http://www.growlightexpress.com/water-cooled-lights-8/ice-box-heat-exchanger-6-inch-306.html

And the most expensive part, the chiller
http://www.growlightexpress.com/water-chillers-60/ecoplus-1-2-hp-water-chiller-488.html

Then I need a pump to circulate it through the 2 Ice boxes and then to the minigen
http://www.growlightexpress.com/pumps-irrigation-41/water-pumps-43/mag-drive-pump-950-gph-278.html

after I have all of that, just the hardware and pvc to hook it all together and hook my inline fan to hydrogens fan thermostat controller and it should be golden. I plan on having the pump run the cold water up to the Ice Boxes, then exit out to the minigen, and then into the chiller and back into the res.
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Cheers lad, lots of homework for me. Tried to Rep but you know, it said later alligator.

Peace and have a good weekend bru.

DST
 
thalastprofit

thalastprofit

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Integra21 said:
Ok. I'll start with the grusome pics and then fill you in on all of the details.



As you can see my plants pretty much just up and died over nite. It is my best guess that adding the General Hydroponics new General Organgics Boi Root and Calmag to my Fox Farm Lineup caused some sort of chemical reaction. I always test new nutrients on unimportant plants, but thought it was unnessisary for adding calmag and a root booster. What a mistake. The day before yesterday, I did a res change. When I woke up yesterday the plants looked mostly fine, but a little saggy. Had a high ph, but this usually happens to me the next day after a res change. Went on about my business. Came back about 6 hours later, and it pretty much looked like it does in the pics. I paniced and tried to do the only thing I could think of. I mixed up a batch of ro and h202 and changed to that. Let it sit for about 2 hours, and then did another change to strait water to flush h202 out, since I grow in organic. Then mixed up a batch of new nutrients minus the Bio Root and Calmag. Let it sit over night, and took these pics when I got up. I dont think they're comming back from this. I have never seen plants look this bad.

If someone things they will recover, Speak up. Otherwise I am starting the hacking here in a little while.

But all is not lost. I have 2 clones that were sexing next to the other plants that just happened to both be female. ! is my mango and the other my Blue Mystic. I also Have a Mango clone ready to flower on the side that is almost 3 feet tall and would fill out most of my screen. Looking to get those in today, unless anyone thinks I should wait out the Kush plants another day or 2 and see if they recover.
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! LOL i will kill for my plants to get to ur stAGE but just learned a big lesson dont mix root boost with CalMag ...nice crop by the way
 
Integra21

Integra21

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quickrip said:
Youve probably already seen it but there is a you tube video that notoriousb sent me with the guys from hydro innovations showing the whole room cooled by the chiller. Even a coil to cool the res. Its bad ass. Im very interested to go that direction. Seems like a great way to go. I cant wait to see it in action in your room.
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Yeah, Im pretty excited to get it all and set it up. Wont be able to for this run, but I did get a couple of new toys for the room. Will have pics of those when its all set up and going again. Hoping to get some plants back in there this weekend. Only time will tell though.
DST said:
Cheers lad, lots of homework for me. Tried to Rep but you know, it said later alligator.

Peace and have a good weekend bru.

DST
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Yeah, it seems like it wants me to rep the world before it lets me re-rep someone. Now do your homework damn it.
thalastprofit said:
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! LOL i will kill for my plants to get to ur stAGE but just learned a big lesson dont mix root boost with CalMag ...nice crop by the way
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Im not sure if it was just the combination of the cal/mag and bio root but more so those 2 being added to the fox farm trio that did it. But not certain on that, and Im sure not gona try to do it again to find out. Just ened up spraying the rest of that shit in the yard. The grass seems to love it though.
 
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marksk85

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so what crop does that leave you with? amazing grow some of the most detailed most upkept grws ive seen props
 
Integra21

Integra21

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Well, this is the pic that got bumped from my first attempt at Blue Kush, was full of mites and had a chemical reaction from ferts that killed them

And this was my second attempt I just finished of thhe same strain, no mites, and good nutrients, got 2 lbs off of this harvest

So it was definetly a good crop thhis go round. I am still preping my room for the next run, but Im hoping to put some girls in there tomorrow.
 
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cruzer101

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Talk about being dialed in. If anyone is there you are.
So this round will see co2 as well. It will be something to see man.

You know, I was looking for a co2 generator after seeing yours but I searched the wrong thing. I found gen1 and felt it was too big.
Now I see its minigen and searched that. That will work. What type of monitor are you using? (sorry for being lazy, you probably already mentioned it)
 
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Bob Smith

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Integra, looking beautiful as always, my friend :)

Yup, I'm back from the dead............glad to see you're still cooking with fire :)
 
moops

moops

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It almost looks like Uncle Scrooge's bank vault in Duckberg. Just jump into a sea of buds. Might solve a mystery!
 
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