BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

vacpurge

New Member
how do you get the oil off the parchment paper? seems like mine is bonded to the paper... am I using the wrong side of parchment or what? wtf am I doing wrong?
 

Fadedawg

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Try the stick and tug method. Fold the paper with the oil in it over, so that the oil sticks to the oil at the edge of the paper, and then pull back on the edge of the paper. That should allow you to work the oil back toward the center and free the paper.
 

Guzias1

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I don't think there is a wrong or right side... You try putting it into the fridge first, then try what fadedawg said
 

doubletake

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Hey guzias I was wondering does a 8th of wax sound ok off of 50 grams of outdoor popcorn buds? I was hoping for closer to a 10 percent return at least but that's more around 7 I was going to do this whole qp but kind of glad I did not I use the glass extractor tube that u can get at smoke shops and did a half a can for each 10 gram tube, so I know I didn't miss any


Also I only did 2 filter not like 8 like you does more filters build up more pressure to blast the trichromes off?
im harvesting in about a week and want to do another qp run and hope to get closer to the half o mark.
any input would be appreciated thatnks.
 

vacpurge

New Member
3.5 grams from 50 is very low. I can get 3.5 grams off a half oz. did you chop it or run buds? were the buds high quality?

also, seems like a half can is too little for any amount.. takes a half can just to saturate the bud.. another can or so to really blast that golden, thc filled butane out.

filters do not help blast more trics off.. I dont think anyways.
 

Guzias1

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Hey guzias I was wondering does a 8th of wax sound ok off of 50 grams of outdoor popcorn buds? I was hoping for closer to a 10 percent return at least but that's more around 7 I was going to do this whole qp .......

HOWDY DOUBLETAKE!, first time hearing from ya.. if I hear correctly, you say you got an "8th of wax" .. you really get that honeycomb?? if so, you did well my friend!.. how does it smoke?

now, from my experience.. I have blown a lot of outdoor material.. Ive had some excellent returns, BUT, only some.... .. my housemate let me blow about 40 grams of his outdoor buds.. they smelled nice, big nugs, i broke them down, and my final return was 5 grams, of really really amazing oil.. -he was no expert grower, but not bad either..

most of my stuff is from here and there random people.. NOW, for my indoor trim.. most of the time, that has a decent return..

ALSO, if your popcorn buds were covered by your big buds, maybe your popcorn wernt fully mature??

in the end, its up to you my friend.. if you have a material to constantly work with that actually waxes up, i would keep doing it, till you find a better replacement..

if you are using popcorn, and buds, and generally stuff not powdery, 2 filters should be fine.. filters are not for back pressure..

you should use 5 filters :]

a 10 gram tube sounds nice, and half a can a tube sounds way more than enough.. what are the dimensions of that thing? length and inside diameter

i think you could potentially prepare you material better

scissor the shit out of it before hand, you want to break down the buds as much as you can, be careful with agitation though, dont be all wild.. it should not be powder, but broken down to joint consistency.. AND, PACK FAIRLY SNUG, and very consistent.. i put in a little, pack, put in a little, pack, repeat. when you pack, you material should be snug (and sticky) enough to stay in the tube if you tilt it upside down..

say you do the qp run, what kind of material is it?

i just harvested what i hope to be over a qp in trim and nugs total.. i hope to have a qp+ so i can keep the extra, and throw a whole qp into a run, AND, best part, i wanna predict i get 22 grams exactly! :p should have results by early next week, im excited about this run more than any of my previous ones..

did this help?
 

Guzias1

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i believe vacpurge ran all buds once, and he got like nothing.. he dint break down the buds either.. correct?
 

vacpurge

New Member
correct. I dont know what I did wrong, but it was a huge fail, waste of a can of butane. yielded basically no oil after 1 can and 20-25g of mid grade bud. I was impatient, and threw the butane soaked buds into the coffee grinder... it made one hell of a sticky mess as the butane evaporated and made honey oil everywhere.... never will I ever run buds again.

run the consistancy that you would chop it for a joint.

if I am right, it is very hard to over rinse with butane, and if youre vac purging, you get all butane out.

what if you made 1 oz of oil and 2 cans well say... then what if you sprayed another 20 LITERS of butane into that (crazy, I know)... then somehow evaporated it all off, then vac purged it, etc.... would it still come out the same? if were removing 100% of the butane? or is it more like 99.98? fadedawg?
 

doubletake

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Yeah thanks that helped a lot it might have been the way I preped the material I did like abunch of small bowls like bong snaps .1 mabey a .2 here or there I heard you want it ground up but not too much like not all the way to joint consistency but right before that so mabey I did to big of nugs this time.

Also sorry my mistake it didn't really honey comb up its kind of oily but I can touch it so it's stable and not bubbling

Also my tube is about 10 inches long and a nice wide just guesstimating here.
and nice on that qp run coming up .usually i dont not run buds anymore unless it's like outdoor I get for 1000 a pound to run but it seems like the return on this stuff wasn't as good as I thought so I'm going to try this shake I can get a qp for 220 and it's pretty frosty so we will see if I can get closer to 10 percent with that material.


Next time I get some top shelf I want to try and blast 10 grams and see if the percentage is better.
if they bud is immature would it have a really crappy bho. Yield because of the trichromes not being amber it seemed like with this last batch the butane was clear almost imidiatly but I kept blasting.


Thanks again
 

doubletake

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3.5 grams from 50 is very low. I can get 3.5 grams off a half oz. did you chop it or run buds? were the buds high quality?

also, seems like a half can is too little for any amount.. takes a half can just to saturate the bud.. another can or so to really blast that golden, thc filled butane out.

filters do not help blast more trics off.. I dont think anyways.
I did a half can to each 10 gram tube so it was like 2 and a half cans on all 50 grams.
 

Guzias1

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about 10 inches long and how wide???

less than 1 inch i hope..

what part of the world are you living in?

those deals dont sound too bad..
 

Guzias1

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couldnt wait to break in my chamber, did a little run tonight :]



my big tube is in the shop, so i ran two of my smaller tubes, 4 cans total, about 5 oz.. very very shwag outdoor trim :p 24 filters! yeee , thats right :]

gonna start my filter collection
 

Guzias1

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how i prepared my very shwaggy material..

it consisted of pretty much everything except nugs. stems, big leaves, huge leaves, the works.. this thing has been sitting for a reason... but what evs..

i spent about 1-2 hours cleaning it up..

picked out allll stems i could possibly see, and any fan leaves, etc..

i then sifted the picked material in plastic straining bowl.. the bowl with held many more big leaves and stems, and also a few tiny ass nugs, i picked all the nugs i could find out, added to sifted material..

this reallllyyy helped me pack a really consistent tube.. i packed it pretty damn tight as well..

my dried muffin ball came out to be 6.3 grams..

SO, THE STATISTICS

lets say i put in 126 grams (4.5oz)

i get out 6 grams of hopefully wax! at the least oil..

that is a %5 return :]

huge yields baby! :p


im happy with it, i used 4 cans of butane.. and im really diggin my vacuum chamber right now.. anddd i havent made something in over a week, anddd im happy! anddd i sprayed onto a 140F dish.. my butane did not instantly boil off like i hoped :p butt, it boiled off quite fast, and basically, this is the fastest ive ever achieved my muffin ball..

me likes blowing onto the really hot surface now ( my surface used to be like 90F) .. ive always had this theory, the faster you can complete this process, this easier it is, speeding up the initial boil offf sounds like a good addition to these steps.. ..
 

doubletake

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about 10 inches long and how wide???

less than 1 inch i hope..

what part of the world are you living in?

those deals dont sound too bad..
10 inches long and like a inch wide

And I'm in California SoCal but go up north to get matirial along with Meds I can get trim sounds like the stuff you ran for 150 a lb that sounds good to run at around a 5 percent return.
I just need to see what this shake can yield percent wise that stuff is closer to like 700 a pound though I think the trim would be better.
 

Anotherlover

Active Member
If I have a real vacuum chamber that can hit 29" would I need to do the whole vacuum/degas/vacuum/degas thing?
I would rather just vacuum it once for an hour or so and be done.

I can "boil" room temp water in just under 45 seconds and that is before it hit's it's maximum vacuum.
 

Guzias1

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%5 return

1lb = 22.4 grams out

15 cans of tane ($4 a can) $60 + 150 = $210

$9.38 to make a gram of oil, potentially wax
fuck that! thats a lottta work
 

Guzias1

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If I have a real vacuum chamber that can hit 29" would I need to do the whole vacuum/degas/vacuum/degas thing?
I would rather just vacuum it once for an hour or so and be done.

I can "boil" room temp water in just under 45 seconds and that is before it hit's it's maximum vacuum.

loll, well,, today i reached the muffin in three tries, im pretty sure its because i boiled off the tane super quick..

before, i only vac and de vacced many times to get muffin..

now, after the muffin.. the time of this process varies..

are you working with your own, or consistent material?
 

doubletake

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%5 return

1lb = 22.4 grams out

15 cans of tane ($4 a can) $60 + 150 = $210

$9.38 to make a gram of oil, potentially wax
fuck that! thats a lottta work
Then 10 percent on the 448 of shake is
Like 44 grams
thats even worse right?
 

doubletake

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And don't you thing 9 bucks a gram is pretty good for some really bomb wax? What are you hoping to get like if you think about it per gram price for producing it?
 
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