BooMer's 5000w Medical Hydro Cannabis Laboratory w/ C02 Generator & ScrOG

heres a couple new pix with the lights off. trimmed up everything under the canopy. was a lot more then i thought but looks def cleaned up. i untangled sum of the main stems that took off into other plant zones but seems to be spaced enough so no competing for space and no mold issues with colas stacked on top each other. the screen is decently filled. id say like 80% maybe 90% but still learnin the scrog method and strain. the next round of ladies will not be FIMmed or topped. ill just lay em over under the netting.



im thinkin about pickin up 2x1000w HPS lamps and do vertical lighting in the middle of the tables to add to side lighting. anyone think this would be worth it at this stage? not sure about the vertical light pattern as well so that id need sum light shedded on haha





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waterfarm setup
left four = master bubba kush (not doin too well)
right four = sour grape
hoping to keep these bitches alive and get solid mothers rollin but the ph curve and wide ring dripper stunted em from lack of attention. anyways im gettin a diff strain to grow after the current flower crop is done. itll be a filler crop since the mothers are laggin.






ladies weaved





buds showing their tops








kinda hard to see with the lights off but the underside of the canopy has been cleaned up

Naw man, I dont think a vertical would be the way to go with a scrog.
They wont get tall enough to benefit from it.

Looks great as is but 2000w more horizontally will certainly tighten up your buds.

Boomer did all the stem rot go away. The plants look really nice. Hope all is good down there for ya.

Always enjoy checking out your setup boomer really did a good job at putting together your first indoor grow.

Master bubba kush, mmm just picked some up burning it for a morning wake and bake. Got to check on my girls then come check out yours turning out to be a good morning thanks for the update Boomer

You might be able to do a different mod to the farms before you change out the systems, i have been thinking of a mod for waterfarms/DWC buckets but have not tested it out yet to see if it will actually work. Will be looking into the new system your checking out

and on the 1000 wat side lighting, well i am new to all this still but i don't think it would be worth your money either not for this setup at least. You might be able to make a 2x3 or 2x4 frame that sits level with the top of your table and mount fluorescent to it so there under the canopy or at the level with the screen/net, that might be a idea but i just waked&baked so i have lots ideas right now hahaha

oh shit just checked out that Current Culture Setup, very nice.

Kinda the mod i was thinking but they perfected it.

That will be a killer setup man thanks for turning me on to it did not know what the system was called.

Nice setup... Even nicer plants

I had a question... A few weeks back one of your plants broke off at the lower part of the stem. I was wondering if you could have treated it like a clone cutting and re-rooted it? Maybe it was too big, but I dont even know if there is a size limit to cuttings for clones. Would have been nice to see you try and re-root it just to see if it was possible (just as a science experiment).

looking good bro, keep it up man, im still here.

cruzer101 said:

Naw man, I dont think a vertical would be the way to go with a scrog.
They wont get tall enough to benefit from it.

Looks great as is but 2000w more horizontally will certainly tighten up your buds.

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thanks for hittin me up cruz. prob wait on the lights then for now

quickrip said:

Boomer did all the stem rot go away. The plants look really nice. Hope all is good down there for ya.

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seems to b fine now. did about 3 spray session of the SM-90 and the stems look strong and knuckled out almost.

Hulk Nugs said:

oh shit just checked out that Current Culture Setup, very nice.

Kinda the mod i was thinking but they perfected it.

That will be a killer setup man thanks for turning me on to it did not know what the system was called.

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ya jackmayoffer is running the under current systems and no shit this is the future of setups. seriously made for cultivating MJ hands down. it requires 600w-1000w lamp PER PLANT thats how legit this setup is.

Copycat said:

Nice setup... Even nicer plants

I had a question... A few weeks back one of your plants broke off at the lower part of the stem. I was wondering if you could have treated it like a clone cutting and re-rooted it? Maybe it was too big, but I dont even know if there is a size limit to cuttings for clones. Would have been nice to see you try and re-root it just to see if it was possible (just as a science experiment).

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the plant suffered mass trauma im sure and that type of stunt im not sure if itd ever recover from, especially to switch gears and grow new roots... u only take clones when u have healthy mothers... not sick dying mothers so id have to assume the plant was a goner. i cut my losses and thru in a runt which is actualy gonna produce a couple nice sized colas from the look of things

Drella said:

looking good bro, keep it up man, im still here.

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glad ure still checkin in. nugs should be arriving soon

FuZZyBUDz said:

Me too, if u were wondering boomer.

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as well glad u could make it by. kinda gets to the point that u just sit bak and watch. no need to blab nonsense and take up journal room. so keep on lurkin

im learning lots from this round already and makin plans for the next round with this setup as well as putting together the new collective vendor grow

anyways im considering lowering the heigth on my scrog netting and at the same time instead of stacking the 6" rockwool vegged cube on top an individual 4" rockwool slab; id just set the 6" cube on the hydro tray and fill the table with hydroton pebbles? this idea was mentioned and got me thinkin... this in theory would allow the roots to blow out under the cube and continue to stretch as far as they want under cover from the hydroton..? but do these extended roots get proper watering?? considering im using a ring drip hydro setup i dont think the roots would... theyd dry up and die from wat i understand. so would i have to switch to a flood and drain setup to get this benefit?

the reason im trying to get my canopy lowered is my lights are only 20" away from the screen total and the colas growin up thru the screen can get larger then planned (hopefully) and get too close to the lights. heat isnt the issue, its the foxtail and any other weird side effects from too many lumens... plus the 600w footprint isnt as wide as it could be since its close.

anyways let me know wat u guys think.

lookin great boomer!

amazing journal! im forsure subd! lots of usefull info!

gooood shit!

Growing for a collective very nice!

The hydroton is a great idea in the table and your so right about the roots blowing up. I believe its easier for the roots to grow in hydroton then in rockwool. Only thing to keep in mind is spacing of the plants or you might end up with one plant dominating the area and roots start growing together.

Not sure on the lights and net, going to be checking out foxtail first time i heard that.

BooMeR242 said:

im learning lots from this round already and makin plans for the next round with this setup as well as putting together the new collective vendor grow

anyways im considering lowering the heigth on my scrog netting and at the same time instead of stacking the 6" rockwool vegged cube on top an individual 4" rockwool slab; id just set the 6" cube on the hydro tray and fill the table with hydroton pebbles? this idea was mentioned and got me thinkin... this in theory would allow the roots to blow out under the cube and continue to stretch as far as they want under cover from the hydroton..? but do these extended roots get proper watering?? considering im using a ring drip hydro setup i dont think the roots would... theyd dry up and die from wat i understand. so would i have to switch to a flood and drain setup to get this benefit?

the reason im trying to get my canopy lowered is my lights are only 20" away from the screen total and the colas growin up thru the screen can get larger then planned (hopefully) and get too close to the lights. heat isnt the issue, its the foxtail and any other weird side effects from too many lumens... plus the 600w footprint isnt as wide as it could be since its close.

anyways let me know wat u guys think.

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they're lookin healthy and stacked to hold some weight.
good shit as always boom

IMO foxtailing is due to strain issues and not environment. I grew 6 strains last year and only one foxtailed. Same environment and nutrients. As far as the roots and rockwool slabs/hydroton you are right. You can run a Ebb and flow table with hydroton and depending on your flood schedule you can develop a nice root system for your plants. If your not intending to care for the roots your plants will always be in a state of stress from the root mass dying off or having trouble growing. Much better to have a healthy root zone IMO. Again depending on your flood or drip cycle, you could still have a well developed root system.

GT

i def always focus on root development and tryin to learn more as i grow.

filling the table with hydroton would be more space efficient to me so the roots can blow out further and i have 4" more of heigth to work with by gettin rid of the 4" rockwool slab. as long as i cant find a negative reason to do this method then i mite make this conversion. issue would b i want to continue using my ring drip emitters but not sure all the roots will get fully watered with this feeding method. i dont like the concept of flood and drain with a recirculating rez. i prefer to waste my runoff and not contaminate my feed rez. so thats the issue i need to work thru

BooMeR242 said:

i def always focus on root development and tryin to learn more as i grow.

filling the table with hydroton would be more space efficient to me so the roots can blow out further and i have 4" more of heigth to work with by gettin rid of the 4" rockwool slab. as long as i cant find a negative reason to do this method then i mite make this conversion. issue would b i want to continue using my ring drip emitters but not sure all the roots will get fully watered with this feeding method. i dont like the concept of flood and drain with a recirculating rez. i prefer to waste my runoff and not contaminate my feed rez. so thats the issue i need to work thru

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hey boomer. why do you think the runoff will cotaminate the res? jus wondering.

Boomer, just wanted to say "hello" - don't have time to go through this massive thread, but I'm assuming (and hoping) that everything's going well - keep up the good work, my friend.

Not sure what you would contaminate it with. All hydro systems have recirculating systems and they do just fine. All these systems including the underflow one require certain requirements to function properly. I believe your training in your current system will provide you the knowledge to adapt your system to a hydro system.

On another note if you want more height lower your tables by cutting the legs in half and replacing the wheels on the new bottoms. There now you have an extra foot. Hope that helps.

GT