BooMeR242
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i wouldnt be able to lower the table since each table has rez tanks under them. thats why my measurements had to be that high. i dont really need much room. the plants seem to be stayin between 12-18" away from the lights
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i wouldnt be able to lower the table since each table has rez tanks under them. thats why my measurements had to be that high. i dont really need much room. the plants seem to be stayin between 12-18" away from the lights
BooMeR242
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so ive been busy with lots of diff projects and all the new upgrade plans running thru my head.
but wanted to get sum input real quick for my drying area.
last time i harvested i just chopped down main branches and trimmed em up and hung em on a rope. been seeing other large growers use a screen variation for dryin. between drawer style and net slinky style im figuring i mite as well make my own drying area.
the closet is completely open and was gonna just make a rectangle "screen shelf" that stretches across the entire closet and do several layers so i have enough room to throw nuggs on and dry out. figured id use 1"x1" pieces of wood to make a frame and staple down the screen material and mount it like any other shelf.
anyways let me know any ideas or sumthing better possibly.
but wanted to get sum input real quick for my drying area.
last time i harvested i just chopped down main branches and trimmed em up and hung em on a rope. been seeing other large growers use a screen variation for dryin. between drawer style and net slinky style im figuring i mite as well make my own drying area.
the closet is completely open and was gonna just make a rectangle "screen shelf" that stretches across the entire closet and do several layers so i have enough room to throw nuggs on and dry out. figured id use 1"x1" pieces of wood to make a frame and staple down the screen material and mount it like any other shelf.
anyways let me know any ideas or sumthing better possibly.
AudiA6Driver
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Sounds like a damn good plan to me, I think the screen is a more space efficient way of drying
FuZZyBUDz
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just a lil input on the drying method, in my studies i have found that hanging them tends to have a more even drying pattern. and i read that u trim before u dry, heres a lil tip on that, do it the other way around. ive found in my last grow i tested this theory and it BLEW me away witht the results, i simply trimed a few cols before drying and trimmed a few before jarring and the ones i waited to clip smell a great deal better is the only way i can think to decribe it. it NEVER got the grassy almost a hay smell to it. just a thought to put in that old noggin of yours 
MAc DRe
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I read through as many pages as i could and i couldnt find the answer, so i am going to ask you a question that i know you have gotten before, sorry. I live in in cali (I have my state Cannabis card) as well and was wondering how you got your paperwork to grow 99 plants. Do you have a federal card? Thanks in advance for your help. Also i have to so you are defantly doing it big, compared to just a year ago. Defantly big dickin it with this grow room good luck and stay stay safe. And be ready to blast, whoever comes through your door. With this room people will find out you grow for the club and will follow you home, have had it happen to a friend. be safe
BooMeR242
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ya thats wat im thinkin too. bought all my supplies today and gonna get workin on the drying closet tomorrow
just a lil input on the drying method, in my studies i have found that hanging them tends to have a more even drying pattern. and i read that u trim before u dry, heres a lil tip on that, do it the other way around. ive found in my last grow i tested this theory and it BLEW me away witht the results, i simply trimed a few cols before drying and trimmed a few before jarring and the ones i waited to clip smell a great deal better is the only way i can think to decribe it. it NEVER got the grassy almost a hay smell to it. just a thought to put in that old noggin of yours
thats interesting. i have read that leaving the buds attached and hangdry does do a more even dry but im still gonna try the screen method since its more space effective. i do prefer to trim before i dry. depending on wat strain u have sum colas can be super leafy and a bitch to trim when dry already. i like to trim the colas before they dry and let the small fans leafs dry up and curl in with the cure. IMO its a better appearance but i may give it a shot trimming after dry.
theres no fed grow card that im aware of. not sure if it was read wrong but wat i was stating was as a "member grower" aka "vendor" for my collective i can grow as much meds as possible. i stay well below the federal cultivation level of 99 just to make sure my ass is covered. i have 25 recommendation copies and contracts from the collective. so in a nut shell i hope this helps but thats how i grow legally.
oh and about sumone finding out; no one will find out. i rock dealer plates on my ride and i never get followed im too aware of pigs and sketchy ass people. its part of the biz
BooMeR242
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k well nuthin too cool i guess but i worked on the veg room to clean up my wiring and get the control box setup with the subpanel. took out the flood tray and rez, bleached em down and cleaned em white. reogranized my pumps and wires. decided to ditch the "mothers" in the waterfarm buckets. i took cuttings from wat was vegged and threw em under the flouro lamps. only ended with 2 master bubba kush and 4 sour grape. hope they root and i can start fresh with the newly modified waterfarm bucket drip system i setup. this will house my new mothers
ill post sum pix tomorrow when i get a chance but i incorporated gravity with the setup to help balance my ph.
i put cynder blocks under plywood that the waterfarm buckets sit on top like an upper level. then the rez sits on the floor which is about 10" lower then the buckets top. this will force water in the buckets to drain down the rez and insde the rez will be the submerged pump that feeds into a 1/2" tube with 1/4" feed tubes to ring drip emitters i cut and measured out myself. this way the ring drips are more effective for veg. the ring drippers that came with the setup sucked balls. they were almost out as wide as the bucket rim itself. how the fuk the roots supposed to be way the fuck out there already ya knw? anyways i threw on the tomato trellis cage by using needle nose pliers to bend the legs the way i needed to form around the buckets and duct taped them down for security. this will help for support later. i lowered the lights down also so i can benefit more lumens this round. last time i wasnt paying attention and was wasting light.
sooo i think thats it for now hoping to get u guys an update tomorrow as we start week 4 of flower and ull see the improvement of bud development. my c02 seems pretty tight it hangs around at like 1650ppm most the time and is only set to hit 1550ppm.
also im lookin for new strains so any heavy couch lock strains u guys know let me know. thinking bout buying seeds from cali connect and get sum new shit rollin. hoping to start my breeding project once i upgrade into my warehouse
ill post sum pix tomorrow when i get a chance but i incorporated gravity with the setup to help balance my ph.
i put cynder blocks under plywood that the waterfarm buckets sit on top like an upper level. then the rez sits on the floor which is about 10" lower then the buckets top. this will force water in the buckets to drain down the rez and insde the rez will be the submerged pump that feeds into a 1/2" tube with 1/4" feed tubes to ring drip emitters i cut and measured out myself. this way the ring drips are more effective for veg. the ring drippers that came with the setup sucked balls. they were almost out as wide as the bucket rim itself. how the fuk the roots supposed to be way the fuck out there already ya knw? anyways i threw on the tomato trellis cage by using needle nose pliers to bend the legs the way i needed to form around the buckets and duct taped them down for security. this will help for support later. i lowered the lights down also so i can benefit more lumens this round. last time i wasnt paying attention and was wasting light.
sooo i think thats it for now hoping to get u guys an update tomorrow as we start week 4 of flower and ull see the improvement of bud development. my c02 seems pretty tight it hangs around at like 1650ppm most the time and is only set to hit 1550ppm.
also im lookin for new strains so any heavy couch lock strains u guys know let me know. thinking bout buying seeds from cali connect and get sum new shit rollin. hoping to start my breeding project once i upgrade into my warehouse
greenthumb111
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One thing you may want to consider about that type of drying is that you will be loosing some trichs while your bud in on the net. If you turn them for even drying you loose or crush more. Remember looks are everything when it comes to the dispensaries. I still would do it like you did your OD grow. Hang branches of buds. The branches provide moisture to the buds while they dry. They dry slower and are a better, smother smoke, imo. I did both ways fans on and fans off. Both have advantages and disadvantages. You are right about the fans and different strains. Let us know how you like the nets. I almost bought one of those.
GT
BooMeR242
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thanks bob thats actully wat i did was bought replacement screen and sum 1"x2" to build a frame and hang it up.
GT; ill def try it this method and maybe still hang a few to experiment with. this method is just more space efficient for me
Hey Boomer,
Sounds like you got the waterfarms set up right now. I think you will see improvement right away.
As far as the flowering tub, I agree with the hydroton but I wouldn't set the rock wool cubes right on the tub. I would suggest you keep at least 2 inches of hydroton under them. Give that tap root room to bend. As far as the roots growing together, Mine always do. I found as long as you can feed it the root wont choke out the others. When you go to water, fill the tub so you get all the hydroton wet and the bottom 1/4 in of the cube. Then drain.
Thats works best for me anyway.
Sounds like you got the waterfarms set up right now. I think you will see improvement right away.
As far as the flowering tub, I agree with the hydroton but I wouldn't set the rock wool cubes right on the tub. I would suggest you keep at least 2 inches of hydroton under them. Give that tap root room to bend. As far as the roots growing together, Mine always do. I found as long as you can feed it the root wont choke out the others. When you go to water, fill the tub so you get all the hydroton wet and the bottom 1/4 in of the cube. Then drain.
Thats works best for me anyway.
greenthumb111
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I agree with getting everything wet, keeping the rockwool off the tub bottom, and keeping the roots wet. Tap root??? I have not had that strain yet.
BooMeR242
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realized my flower day count was a day or two off and had to adjust my feeding schedule so now my flush is only a day behind on the real schedule.
been feeding with PH around 5.6-5.9 and ppms seem to creep up slowly and hittin 1100-1250 and im thinkin its too high cuz the fan leafs are changing colors and there all diff. so its makin the diagnosis harder. im gonna wait to see results after last nites flush.
Flush was 250-300ppm PH @ 5.7
still attempting to dial in diff factors with this strain.
Not sure what PH is best to keep it at so i gotta experiment to see wat does wat. Im starting to believe in the K.I.S.S. method of basic feeding and not so many additives. its hard to keep the ppm down with so much shit being added. im only doin half strength as is and still having high ppm.
i think next round i might try the same recipe on one table then just the base nutes with a bloom additive and all the root beneficial nutes.
anyways heres the update of the ladies;
table #1
table #2
cleaned up underside
ladies budding nicely
Waterfram conversion #57 lol
i deicided to scrap the old stunted mother clones and start over with a better style system that uses gravity to push drain each bucket into the main rez at the end on the floor. this allows me to control PH and PPM better
drip to recirculating system
my own rind drippers with 4 emitters facing down into the hydroton
feeding tubes and also the tomatoe trellis was bent to fit around the buckets for support
main rez with feed pump and runoff hosing
been feeding with PH around 5.6-5.9 and ppms seem to creep up slowly and hittin 1100-1250 and im thinkin its too high cuz the fan leafs are changing colors and there all diff. so its makin the diagnosis harder. im gonna wait to see results after last nites flush.
Flush was 250-300ppm PH @ 5.7
still attempting to dial in diff factors with this strain.
Not sure what PH is best to keep it at so i gotta experiment to see wat does wat. Im starting to believe in the K.I.S.S. method of basic feeding and not so many additives. its hard to keep the ppm down with so much shit being added. im only doin half strength as is and still having high ppm.
i think next round i might try the same recipe on one table then just the base nutes with a bloom additive and all the root beneficial nutes.
anyways heres the update of the ladies;
table #1
table #2
cleaned up underside
ladies budding nicely
Waterfram conversion #57 lol
i deicided to scrap the old stunted mother clones and start over with a better style system that uses gravity to push drain each bucket into the main rez at the end on the floor. this allows me to control PH and PPM better
drip to recirculating system
my own rind drippers with 4 emitters facing down into the hydroton
feeding tubes and also the tomatoe trellis was bent to fit around the buckets for support
main rez with feed pump and runoff hosing
d.c. beard
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I like that Waterfarm setup bro, a little ghetto but it bet it'll work like a champ. So what, you pump the water to the top out the emitters and then everything just drains back into to res by itself?
quickrip
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Whats up boomer? The new waterfarm stp looks nice man. I was wondering, how high is the the temp in your rooms and in turn how high do the res temps get after about a week. Also do you have res heaters, or just keep cool temps to start off? Ive been reading up on res temp issues and dont know who to believe. Some people like Fatman on here that are very advanced growers dont feel that its bad to have res temps matching the room temps, even at 85f runnin c02. I like this idea cause then I dont need to worry about chillin the res. Anyway what do think about this man?
BooMeR242
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hmm good point about having the roots spaced between the table and cube bottom. not sure wat ill do cuz the reason im considering doin the hydroton was to lower the plant. but i mite just keep my setup the way it is since the colas are not gettin too tall and mite work out fine without burn.
ya basically. just like any other drip feed system but the runoff recirculates into the same rez via gravity.
room temp with the exhaust light fans off is around 83 degrees so far. id like it at 85. the rez temp is 73-75 at almost any given time. temps in my rez should be 68 but i dont have a chiller so thats not happening.
from my research and other large grows ive seen, a chiller is the way to go. supposedly roots uptake better at lower temps and lower temps scare off pest fungus mold etc. mite not be completely correct about that part but another part is the last two weeks of flower if u have a rez is to lower ur temps to like 50 and trip out the plants colors. mainly turn purps purple.
anyways a 1hp chiller is around $1300 and a pretty penny so depends on ur budget i guess. my grow seems to be fine with water temps at 75. so idk for sure yet
greenthumb111
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from my research and other large grows ive seen, a chiller is the way to go (where have I heard that before) <rolls eyes> supposedly roots uptake better at lower temps and lower temps scare off pest fungus mold etc. (you are partly right. The main reason for lower res temps is to increase the dissolved O2 for your roots. The main reason you have all those bubblers is to raise the O2 levels. If the water is warmer you loose all that O2 and root preformance) mite not be completely correct about that part but another part is the last two weeks of flower if u have a rez is to lower ur temps to like 50 and trip out the plants colors. mainly turn purps purple.
anyways a 1hp chiller is around $1300 and a pretty penny so depends on ur budget i guess. my grow seems to be fine with water temps at 75. so idk for sure yet[/QUOTE]
Wait until this summer when the outdoor temp is highter. Check into the DYI iceboxes for cooling ligh hood exhaust (https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/234834-diy-icebox.html). No need for AC then.
Grow is looking good. pH will be easier to keep stabilized with constant temps. PPM will fluctuate mainly from nute uptake from hungry plants. Buds are starting to fill in. Now the good part begins.
anyways a 1hp chiller is around $1300 and a pretty penny so depends on ur budget i guess. my grow seems to be fine with water temps at 75. so idk for sure yet[/QUOTE]
Wait until this summer when the outdoor temp is highter. Check into the DYI iceboxes for cooling ligh hood exhaust (https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/234834-diy-icebox.html). No need for AC then.
Grow is looking good. pH will be easier to keep stabilized with constant temps. PPM will fluctuate mainly from nute uptake from hungry plants. Buds are starting to fill in. Now the good part begins.
