Cali connection seeds what the deal

Someguy, you're right. I did over commit. You know the worst part? I believed the hype so bad that I got a couple of friends to come in with me on it. The idea with buying that many packs was to take many clones. I'm glad we bought that many in the end as the raskal was good smoke but we needed the numbers to get plants that didn't auto. Double edged sword really. Even if someone buys what some consider to be too many packs then there should still be the expectation that the claims from the breeder are true. With Swerve this simply isn't the case. He talks the talk but, his seeds grow balls or flower when they choose.

whatsthecrack said:

Someguy, you're right. I did over commit. You know the worst part? I believed the hype so bad that I got a couple of friends to come in with me on it. The idea with buying that many packs was to take many clones. I'm glad we bought that many in the end as the raskal was good smoke but we needed the numbers to get plants that didn't auto. Double edged sword really. Even if someone buys what some consider to be too many packs then there should still be the expectation that the claims from the breeder are true. With Swerve this simply isn't the case. He talks the talk but, his seeds grow balls or flower when they choose.

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So far, I cannot concur with you. I only ordered 5 reg blackwater and 10 OGiesel and got a free mixed pack. Popped 4 bw, got 3 males, 1 female. No autos no hermy for me. Flowered out the BW male for pollen he was a real stud. Popped 2 of the OGiesel, both ended up male, a bit stretchy for liking, but did save one male to collect pollen. Again, no problems. I have the BW female mother flowering right now. 10 days in, no purp yet which is sad but hey I know not every pheno is the kill. Again, no herms no autoing, so I can't agree with your experiences. That would be frustrating though, I would just chalk it up to bad genetics and move on to a diff breeder...for me I am still learning what I actually bought, but so far have no reason to stray. And if you find a really sick pheno for 800, well maybe it's worth it. Heard of people paying 5k for cuts and crap. Seeds are like playing the lotto, not every pack is a winner, the customer should be aware of this. Now if we could all buy clones from attitude... that would change the whole game.

Someguy15 said:

Seeds are like playing the lotto, not every pack is a winner, the customer should be aware of this. Now if we could all buy clones from attitude... that would change the whole game.

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Exactly. Sick of all this bullshit and crying. "I counted on you Swerve...you fucked me over Swerve..." SHUT THE FUCK UP. Hey, I've spent a lot of money on my little shitty grows in the past and got some hermies. All from different reputable breeders. To be honest, I never got mad about it. The worst thing that happened was that I made more seeds......and turns out, very few of those of those offspring hermied and I had a lot of feminized seeds that my friends fucking loved. I saved them a lot of money by handing some out.
I'd even say most of those hermies were my fault. But like that someguy said, it's a crap shoot. If I get hermies from Cali Connect, I'll still go back, because not all those genes are bunk. Spending 120 bucks for 10 seeds, I find a keeper...pollinate it...then I got another 100 ready to go for free. I fucking love genetics.

Someguy15 said:

Who 'trys' a breeder with 800, or 1200 dollars. You guys are nuts. Buy one pack, evaluate how you feel, then move on. Ever heard of clones, turn a $10 seed into millions of plants... sounds like you over-committed and are bitter at someone else for that. Dude isn't perfect, I'm sure your grows aren't either. Nothin in life is... it's a hunt for genetics move on, your spinning in circles at this point.

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Well put sir i couldn't of said it better myself, you over-commited youself because of the hype silly.......lol

That's exactly why i was prepared to just bite the bullet and let it go with no hard feelings, i only bought one pack to test them out first, like the man said it's a hunt for genetics move on. That and the fact that the one viable plant i do have is one of the nicest looking plants i've seen in a while.

One last thing, all the Cali Connection hype started somewhere, am i right ??? I mean Swerve didn't just fall out of the sky all of a sudden one day and get the rep and all this hype about having some honest to god pure fire dank and winning aclaim from nowhere did he ??? I think the answer to these questions are cleaarly no, it probaly started with some really good bud and that leads me to think that there are some good genetics in there somewhere.

Well that's pretty much it from me on this one, i'll let you know if i ever recieve those replacements or not, it would be nice but who cares really. Anyway i think i'll just watch n see how the rest of this shitshow bashfest unfolds from the side lines.

to all the haters, live long and prosper!

I dunno about you guys, but Everything I've seen in person from CC is straight fire, I'm saving money just to get a pack of that Buddha Tahoe, it looks way killer. Although they're seems to have been some discrepancies with CC from what I've read, most of the people complaining in this thread have yet to personally​ have a problem/trouble with their seeds.

NoSwag said:

I dunno about you guys, but Everything I've seen in person from CC is straight fire, I'm saving money just to get a pack of that Buddha Tahoe, it looks way killer. Although they're seems to have been some discrepancies with CC from what I've read, most of the people complaining in this thread have yet to personally​ have a problem/trouble with their seeds.

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I still don't know what's up with that Buddha strain, is Cali releasing it? Shit, I don't live in CA, so if it's just cut only I'm out of luck.

heyYousGuys said:

I still don't know what's up with that Buddha strain, is Cali releasing it? Shit, I don't live in CA, so if it's just cut only I'm out of luck.

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just released on attitude, I hope it I can cop a pack before its sold out.

NoSwag said:

just released on attitude, I hope it I can cop a pack before its sold out.

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holy shit, thanks man. reps 2 ya

God what a bunch of mindless zombies. "Oh those guys are haters, cc is the bomb, it's your own fault you have hermies, not all those genes are bunk, I want a pack of Buddha Tahoe before they sell out". What a bunch of mindless band wagon zombies. The Buddha Tahoe is the SAME as the other tahoe geniuses! And NOSWAG, what makes you think the people complaining haven't really had problems personally with CC? Just wanted to get in the mix and throw your 2 cents in? Because I can tell you my Larrys threw out balls and continues to do so, and now my Chem 4s are too. I've never had exp. with CC's reg seeds, but the fems are junk, plain and simple.

I know very littlle of CC or swerve.
I hate Breeder bashing.
Disgusting behavior.
Don't care if it's Arijan, DrGT, Jim Ortega or swerve.

Every MJ plant is capable of herming in the correct envotoment.
Dosent mean the breeder sux or the weed sux.
It usually means I stressed em out or got a bad roll of the genetic dice.

For every hermi report I can usually find 5 that didnt herm out.

If the stability of the strain is most important you I'd recommend old Dutch strains they have had alot more years to chose the most sexualy stable plants.

SCARHOLE said:

I hate Breeder bashing.
Disgusting behavior.

Every MJ plant is capable of herming in the correct envotoment.
Dosent mean the breeder sux or the weed sux.
It usually means I stressed em out or got a bad roll of the genetic dice.

For every hermi report I can usually find 5 that didnt herm out.

If the stability of the strain is most important you I'd recommend old Dutch strains they have had alot more years to chose the most sexualy stable plants.

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So far I have done 8 plants of Emerald Triangle fem beans (no dutch genetics) and only one hermed late in flowering. Same environment as the CC beans, in fact I still have 3 of the ET strains I kept as keepers, still no nanners. I have 2 Larrys, 2 Chems, and a Pre 98 Bubba all fems. Both Larrys threw out balls in the first 2 to 3 weeks of flowering, the Chems in the 4th week. So far nothing on the Bubba which is 2 weeks into flowering at the moment. Also I have grown plenty of dutch bred strains, I'm not new to this, and yes bad hermie issues does mean "the breeder sux" as you put it. Have you grown any of CC's fems? If not you shouldn't even be posting here, how could you possibly relate?

NoSwag said:

I dunno about you guys, but Everything I've seen in person from CC is straight fire, I'm saving money just to get a pack of that Buddha Tahoe, it looks way killer. Although they're seems to have been some discrepancies with CC from what I've read, most of the people complaining in this thread have yet to personally​ have a problem/trouble with their seeds.

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I personally grew four of the pre-98 BK. Two were very sickly looking and the other two looked ok, but grew VERY slow. Every other strain I have ever grown, even Sensi NL#1, which is about 100% indica was a monster after two months and the CC gear was only a foot tall. I don't have any other experience with them, because I pulled them all after finding out about one in three turning hermie.

I could show herm reports from emerald
Tri or any company. They mean very little to me.
Because the vast majority are happy an didnt get Hermis.

I chimed in cause a troll ran off my fav breeder Jim Ortega @ MNS forums.
I think RIU an all all forums would be alot better place if we made breeders feel welcome.

SCARHOLE said:

I could show herm reports from emerald
Tri or any company. They mean very little to me.
Because the vast majority are happy an didnt get Hermis.

I chimed in cause a troll ran off my fav breeder Jim Ortega @ MNS forums.
I think RIU an all all forums would be alot better place if we made breeders feel welcome.

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So show the herm reports then, why just talk? I'd like to see it.

SCARHOLE said:

Ran into Swerve here fighting with trolls.
He's a Nice guy.
He offered to send me a pack of seeds.
Been wanting to try his gear for a year.
Woooooot!

Hope trolls don't run him off before he sends....

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I see, you were bought. Chump. You never even tried his gear but have an opinion. Fucking lame.

I have also been "bought" by DrGreenthumbs, paradise, Magnus,DNA,g13,nirvana, big buddah,mr nice,GHS an more.
As I have grown their freebies.

SCARHOLE said:

I know very littlle of CC or swerve.
I hate Breeder bashing.
Disgusting behavior.
Don't care if it's Arijan, DrGT, Jim Ortega or swerve.

Every MJ plant is capable of herming in the correct envotoment.
Dosent mean the breeder sux or the weed sux.
It usually means I stressed em out or got a bad roll of the genetic dice.

For every hermi report I can usually find 5 that didnt herm out.

If the stability of the strain is most important you I'd recommend old Dutch strains they have had alot more years to chose the most sexualy stable plants.

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I agree completely and I'm not a breeder basher but I think the auto issue lies soley with the breeder, thats a little tough to blame on environment and this was an issue that was caused by outsourcing to a breeder that had an auto in the room and didnt tell swerve, he said he fixed the issue and replaced the packs yet auto's are creeping up again, I personally just had one from a new pack in the new packaging that was bought this year, yes I had good dank weed and pheno's that did not auto...but he said the issue was fixed which it clearly is not.
Like I said in an earlier post, CC has some dank gear but Swerve needs to take a further step back in his breeding to correct the auto issue....I'm not bashing or trying to get anything for free, but you cant fix an issue if you dont know it exists.

Goldowitz said:

I personally grew four of the pre-98 BK. Two were very sickly looking and the other two looked ok, but grew VERY slow. Every other strain I have ever grown, even Sensi NL#1, which is about 100% indica was a monster after two months and the CC gear was only a foot tall. I don't have any other experience with them, because I pulled them all after finding out about one in three turning hermie.

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Like I said most of the people in this thread, of course others have had problems with CC or their beans. You got a pack of bad genetics, it happens, thats even enough of a reason not to give them another chance, but I cant see why if CC/Swerve are so bad why his seeds still sell and all the product I see in person is nothing short of amazing.

Capt. Stickyfingers said:

I see, you were bought. Chump. You never even tried his gear but have an opinion. Fucking lame.

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Bought? Dont think so, What you're saying is that if a well known breeder offered you some seeds you would say no because of your opinion on them? stupid.

No he is blindly defending the company because he got free seeds. Totally biased opinion. He hasn't even grown any CC gear but has shit to say about it as if he has. But I see you're not bright enough to figure that out. Sure I'd take free seeds from anyone, but would I blindly stick up for them just because they sent me free shit? No.

SCARHOLE said:

I have also been "bought" by DrGreenthumbs, paradise, Magnus,DNA,g13,nirvana, big buddah,mr nice,GHS an more.
As I have grown their freebies.

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Freebies that you got from attitude with an order. Not even the same, nice try.