Calling All Noob Growers

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jumboSWISHER

jumboSWISHER

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yea, this junky old computer wont open the "contact us" page or display the "reloc wiring, and HIDs" pages so idk lol
if i take em all apart ta get the old bulbs out could i atleast find if there hps or mh? (dont wanna take the glass n all that apart if its pointless haha)
 
Danielsgb

Danielsgb

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jumboSWISHER said:
yea, this junky old computer wont open the "contact us" page or display the "reloc wiring, and HIDs" pages so idk lol
if i take em all apart ta get the old bulbs out could i atleast find if there hps or mh? (dont wanna take the glass n all that apart if its pointless haha)
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I looked up ansi m59 cause that m59 sounds like a ballast ansi code. It came up Metal Halide, so I'd say that's it.
Daniels
 
lime73

lime73

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Illumination said:
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/365563-riddlme-deserves-elite-membership-powers.html

Here's a way^^ for us to show our appreciation for all we have learned from Riddleme....

Go there and vote and express your gratitude to this guy who has taught us and devotes so much time to our benefit

Namaste':peace:
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I totally Agree 100%!
I have read almost all Riddleme has planted on me...:mrgreen:just trying to absorb it all...

I'm almost 1/2 through balls/walls and am eager to join in the topics being discussed in allot of you threads...Didnt think It would take a couple weeks...lol thanks again riddleme for guiding me into the correct spectrum!

So one question for all you! If the idea is to Keep them green til the end then when is the end? :confused:

I have a Indica 60 days flowering,3' plant under 150w Hps and just today saw first amber trichomes, on top cola only...she is all Green from Head to Toe...well(1 yellow on bottom).:mrgreen:

So can a plant go too long? Over ripen? Is there a point of deminish where it starts to effect quality/potency?

If she is still green then could I just harvest the top half and let the bottom go longer to ripen lower 1/2, or even Reveg her after aswell? She is healthy!
And Matilda was Reveged...so if she is healthy so... could I do this?
 
riddleme

riddleme

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lime73 said:
I totally Agree 100%!
I have read almost all Riddleme has planted on me...:mrgreen:just trying to absorb it all...

I'm almost 1/2 through balls/walls and am eager to join in the topics being discussed in allot of you threads...Didnt think It would take a couple weeks...lol thanks again riddleme for guiding me into the correct spectrum!

So one question for all you! If the idea is to Keep them green til the end then when is the end? :confused:

I have a Indica 60 days flowering,3' under 150w Hps and just today saw first amber trichomes, on top cola only...she is all Green from Head to Toe...well(1 yellow on bottom).:mrgreen:

So can a plant go too long? Over ripen? Is there a point of deminish where it starts to effect quality/potency?

If she is still green then could I just harvest the top half and let the bottom go longer to ripen lower 1/2, or even Reveg her after aswell? She is healthy!
And Matilda was Reveged...so if she is healthy so... could I do this?
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best to post some pics, so we can see her :) but I don't even look at trichs till the hairs (pistils) start to recede and yes there is a point where you can get diminished returns and (in some strains) there is a point where you get hermies if you wait to long
 
lime73

lime73

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riddleme said:
best to post some pics, so we can see her :) but I don't even look at trichs till the hairs (pistils) start to recede and yes there is a point where you can get diminished returns and (in some strains) there is a point where you get hermies if you wait to long
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And the yellow one...

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How does it look?
Probable 85% red hair but a few white popping out at bottom.
 
riddleme

riddleme

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lime73 said:
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And the yellow one...

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How does it look?
Probable 85% red hair but a few white popping out at bottom.
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looking mighty fine! is this your first grow? hell of a job if it is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but

you got a bit of stress up at the top there with the serated edges curing up,,,,,means something is off

can you tell me what it might be?
 
lime73

lime73

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Yes 1st one almost finished.

Not making it rain...? Heat stress from having the light too close at 6" from top.
From the start to 4weeks of flower, Dehydrated, I think, have a fan blowing too close(on high) right across top. was a slight nute burn at 4 week flower, but I flushed and she has only had a nute feed Twice since.uuummm? Am I close or ?lol.
 
lime73

lime73

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riddleme said:
Ding ding ding,,,,,light to close, indicator is that leaves under those are not doing it
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Yah only top leaves have this say 6" from top of plant...Live and learn and I am still learning. Still new to the game.lol. Trying to keep her green though!
I have moved it since and now it is about 12" away with fan on low!!!
 
lime73

lime73

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Also I have let this one grow Ole Natural...meaning I have not pinched it , topped or nothing....wanna see her in her natural form...the clipping is what I'm messing with now.... and Wow Big difference!!! She is 16" and I could take 10 clippings from her if I wanted( but who would do that) She has major side branching from pinching Technique! Just one pinch.....Less is More! I took 2 clippings from Mom, and one is natural 12" no side branches and the other WOW! they do not look the same! But they are...My experiment??? idk... I see Improved techniques can be good when done at the right time. I have another that I have Trained, Topped and she has like over 8 tops!!! Awesome, Lst, Topping, pinching is all Good if done right! Trying a few different tricks out... shit I could probably do a net with like a SOG with her alone!

Oh yah one more thing should I cut 1/2 then let bottom finish up the try for a Reveg???or is it a waist of time?
 
riddleme

riddleme

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lime73 said:
Also I have let this one grow Ole Natural...meaning I have not pinched it , topped or nothing....wanna see her in her natural form...the clipping is what I'm messing with now.... and Wow Big difference!!! She is 16" and I could take 10 clippings from her if I wanted major side branching from pinching Technique! Just one pinch.....Less is More! I took 2 clippings from Mom, and one is natural 12" no side branches and the other WOW! they do not look the same! But they are...My experiment???idk... I see Improved techniques can be good when done at the right time. I have another that I have Trained, Topped and she has like over 8 tops!!! Awesome, Lst, Topping, pinching is all Good if done right! Trying a few differnt tricks out... shit I could probably do a net with like a SOG with her alone!

Oh yah one more thing should I cut 1/2 then let bottom finish up the try for a Reveg???or is it a waist of time?
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no such thing as a waste of time when it comes to learnin, do it all at least once, then decide the stuff you like
 
lime73

lime73

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riddleme said:
no such thing as a waste of time when it comes to learnin, do it all at least once, then decide the stuff you like
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Good point... See it for Yourself! Just like the clippings...I can see the difference with my own eyes.

Would you like to see the twins...? So you can see what I see.
And the Topped one?

I would like to see the first one finish it has been to long...And I haven't even took a sample bud yet should I? Too see! Any ideas???
She was started under 2 30w 3'flur, as all were! flipped at 26" now 38". 4 months from seed, 2 mths veg/2mths flower...is she done?
 
uptosumpn

uptosumpn

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Okay, gotcha on the first part...btw, this is my third grow....and still cant get this soil thing right....just gonna use a 40/40 mixture of Pro-mix bx & FFLW with added perlite....adjust with d-lime if ness. SO, with that said....let me ask you this...I grow autos, (dont know if u have any experenice) But, as far as the making it rain goes, (i only read up to page 10) Will this work with autos??? (Ya know, 8-10wk life span..) If so, can you break dwn a example for me as to when to I apply this method, because I would love that rapid growth rate from my autos<which they grow fast already, just want MORE vigorious verticle growth...I'm trying to get at least 2' tall plants and the strains i am using will more than achieve this...Right now it takes almost a week for soil to dry out!!<this is where your method is needed, as I haved learned that faster watering/feed rates grow bigger plants as well....I'm currently growing in 3gal bags, (16 of them!!) under a 600hps....Thanks!

riddleme said:
First let me say that overwatering is not the amount of water you use it is how often you water, so basically water to often (before the soil dries out) is overwatering

So you water a lot with plenty of run off and yes the plant will go into overdrive, then you wait till the top 3 to 4 inches has dried out (stick your finger into the soil) and feed only till you get a drip of runoff, then you wait till the soil dries out and repeat. with a healthy vigorous plant you can do this 3 times aweek easy and the plant will just grow and grow so fast you can see it
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riddleme

riddleme

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uptosumpn said:
Okay, gotcha on the first part...btw, this is my third grow....and still cant get this soil thing right....just gonna use a 40/40 mixture of Pro-mix bx & FFLW with added perlite....adjust with d-lime if ness. SO, with that said....let me ask you this...I grow autos, (dont know if u have any experenice) But, as far as the making it rain goes, (i only read up to page 10) Will this work with autos??? (Ya know, 8-10wk life span..) If so, can you break dwn a example for me as to when to I apply this method, because I would love that rapid growth rate from my autos<which they grow fast already, just want MORE vigorious verticle growth...I'm trying to get at least 2' tall plants and the strains i am using will more than achieve this...Right now it takes almost a week for soil to dry out!!<this is where your method is needed, as I haved learned that faster watering/feed rates grow bigger plants as well....I'm currently growing in 3gal bags, (16 of them!!) under a 600hps....Thanks!
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There is a better explanation of my make it rain technique in my current grow (balls to the wall sig link) and there are growers doing it to auto's (though I never have) shame you stopped on page 10 as this thread is full of info :)
 
SensiStan

SensiStan

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riddleme said:
There is a better explanation of my make it rain technique in my current grow (balls to the wall sig link) and there are growers doing it to auto's (though I never have) shame you stopped on page 10 as this thread is full of info :)
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Maybe i should give my 2c on the whole making it rain on auto's.

So far as i can tell they REALLY dont like it at first and some of my plants looked like they were going to die in the early stages but i kept pushing them and within a couple weeks they took to it, hence there current size which would put a lot of auto growers to shame :D This means that if ur going to make it rain u have to be comitted to hurting your plants a little bit in the beginning for the greater good (maybe some rhizotonic would minimise this with more root growth).But when they take to it growth is explosive :bigjoint: i have a 18 inch kola on one of my plants and there is secondary bud production. On the whole a good way to maximise a typically low yielding plant.
I will always advise not bothering with veg nutes on autos aswell, theres just not enough time they always start budding in the first 2 weeks (in my experience).

Just thought my experience might help others so i hope this contribution is of use at some point.

-SS
 
uptosumpn

uptosumpn

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Okay, thanks...i'm gonna go chk it out now...and I will also continue to read the rest of the very informative thread! Thanks again....
riddleme said:
There is a better explanation of my make it rain technique in my current grow (balls to the wall sig link) and there are growers doing it to auto's (though I never have) shame you stopped on page 10 as this thread is full of info :)
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Thanks for this post!! comig from someone who has tried this method on autos.....I think after I read riddleme other thread, I will have a better understanding as well as something to challenge me to get a "bigger/robust" Auto......and that 18" cola sound impressive, ANY PICS?? Btw, at what age did you start to "make it rain" and what strain was it? Thanks again....Gotta go pick up some rhizotonic TOO!!<is this "better" than greenfuse root stimu??(which I currently have) as well as some AN Voodoo Juice, Tarantula, Phirana & Sensi-Zyme in the wings for bigger/better/healthier roots, jus didnt use on this grow to see a diff.
SensiStan said:
Maybe i should give my 2c on the whole making it rain on auto's.

So far as i can tell they REALLY dont like it at first and some of my plants looked like they were going to die in the early stages but i kept pushing them and within a couple weeks they took to it, hence there current size which would put a lot of auto growers to shame :D This means that if ur going to make it rain u have to be comitted to hurting your plants a little bit in the beginning for the greater good (maybe some rhizotonic would minimise this with more root growth).But when they take to it growth is explosive :bigjoint: i have a 18 inch kola on one of my plants and there is secondary bud production. On the whole a good way to maximise a typically low yielding plant.
I will always advise not bothering with veg nutes on autos aswell, theres just not enough time they always start budding in the first 2 weeks (in my experience).

Just thought my experience might help others so i hope this contribution is of use at some point.

-SS
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SensiStan

SensiStan

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uptosumpn said:
Okay, thanks...i'm gonna go chk it out now...and I will also continue to read the rest of the very informative thread! Thanks again....


Thanks for this post!! comig from someone who has tried this method on autos.....I think after I read riddleme other thread, I will have a better understanding as well as something to challenge me to get a "bigger/robust" Auto......and that 18" cola sound impressive, ANY PICS?? Btw, at what age did you start to "make it rain" and what strain was it? Thanks again....Gotta go pick up some rhizotonic TOO!!<is this "better" than greenfuse root stimu??(which I currently have) as well as some AN Voodoo Juice, Tarantula, Phirana & Sensi-Zyme in the wings for bigger/better/healthier roots, jus didnt use on this grow to see a diff.
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I sense a lot of enthusiasm in you, this is good :bigjoint: but i also see u like to buy new stuff all the time. just keep it simple , makes life easier

My thread with the big kolas is HERE
 
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fooshizzle

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Can you take a look at my maters? :smile: Give me a analysis of whats going on. I didn't have a time to feed last night so I'm going to feed tonight before the pots dry out to much. If I'm trying the make it rain technique, how much water should I use and nutes?

After I feed tonight when should I make it rain again?

On a side note: I can't believe my mites are gone, I check leaves everyday for new signs. All I used was Azatrol as under leaf foiler and as feed, then that Zero Tolerance stuff, both about 5 days ago (I also did a tepid water foiler rinse of the bottom of all infected leaves 2 days after I sprayed Azatrol and Z.T.). I think I'm going to spray malathion over the tops tonight just in case.



Ok is this the right thread to post this?
 
riddleme

riddleme

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fooshizzle said:
Can you take a look at my maters? :smile: Give me a analysis of whats going on. I didn't have a time to feed last night so I'm going to feed tonight before the pots dry out to much. If I'm trying the make it rain technique, how much water should I use and nutes?

After I feed tonight when should I make it rain again?

On a side note: I can't believe my mites are gone, I check leaves everyday for new signs. All I used was Azatrol as under leaf foiler and as feed, then that Zero Tolerance stuff, both about 5 days ago (I also did a tepid water foiler rinse of the bottom of all infected leaves 2 days after I sprayed Azatrol and Z.T.). I think I'm going to spray malathion over the tops tonight just in case.



Ok is this the right thread to post this?
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