Kassiopeija
Well-Known Member
there's no need for you to be aggressive or use foul language just because you cant understand scientific texts...Back up your shit
there's no need for you to be aggressive or use foul language just because you cant understand scientific texts...Back up your shit
I used neither. Thicken up that skin.there's no need for you to be aggressive or use foul language just because you cant understand scientific texts...
I give you that +1Thicken up that skin.
You must respect RIU. It's a term called nanners. Little tiny banana sprout male pollen late in flower. If only one or two seeds develop in an otherwise female save them because they are fems. It only happens on certain varieties late in flower. It's the plant's last resort to propagate (it's only mission).Well please excuse me for not knowing scientific lingo, not my background or vocabulary at all. My interpretation was false.
I understand how extremely rare they suggest it is.
The context of the paper is confusing to me. Because it doesn't seem to specify whether they are refering to a plant or seed. Neither I guess.
The polyploidy seems to be formation of the seed only, but the parent plant's own sexuality is facultative, not natural?
This was intriguing to me, because of the correlation between Apomixis, environmental conditions and geographical areas.
For me it was the closest thing to Rhodelization theory I've seen so far.
I'd also consider myself atheist, so hassle someone else about that other crap. Has nothing to do with anything I asked or said.
Please, if you have any further reading material regarding apomictic plants, I'd appreciate if you can point me in the right direction.
Thanks for your reply.
It would seem apomixis does not involve male flower at all. Not even remotely. At least in the context of female plants exhibiting it.You must respect RIU. It's a term called nanners. Little tiny banana sprout male pollen late in flower. If only one or two seeds develop in an otherwise female save them because they are fems. It only happens on certain varieties late in flower. It's the plant's last resort to propagate (it's only mission).
https://www.rollitup.org/t/useful-seeds.954942/post-15127047
Pulled out some pollen sacks man am thinking of taking this lady out as she is still producing buds and also sacks at this stage. See that in third pic that's a pollen which you could almost never see unless observing very carefullythis was the culprit in an early stage:
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this was the grow:
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and that one of the buds, unfinished due to seeds (I didplug them out before smoking, as you can see from the holes)
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Have a nice day my friend. Im off to bed, its midnight.
PS: Dont violate the 8th commandment.
Yes my friend, but this is a difficult topic because of the possibility of "micro-seeds" in commercial weed (esp. Bedrocan). If you do a forum search on that term you'll see the topic pops up from time to time here and elsewhere.@Kassiopeija
What you say about variety and time being a factor, seems to make sense to me. Especially considering just how long some sativas will flower for. This backs up their theory of environment and geographical location being a major factor.
A thought just occurred to me regarding immature seed, in plants with much a shorter flower period.
I've seen threads a few times here, where the grower was running a mother and clones. No hermaphrodism whatsoever, but tiny undeveloped seeds that smoke really unpleasantly.
I've had the same occur in other weed i've bought, which I naturally assumed was from hermaphrodism.
For the cases where the mother shows no expression and is a shorter flowering strain, apomixis seems a real possibility.
Yes, these pollum is so small if a nanner opens it spills literarily hundreds of pollen outside - which is the reason why always a full tent will be pollenized if that happens.Pulled out some pollen sacks man am thinking of taking this lady out as she is still producing buds and also sacks at this stage. See that in third pic that's a pollen which you could almost never see unless observing very carefully
And also that's a great grow man how many weeks they took for flowering???
Decided to do some reading as you were either unable, or unwilling, to provide any sort of legitimate documentation.The reading + understanding you have to do on your own.
Well please excuse me for not knowing scientific lingo, not my background or vocabulary at all. My interpretation was false.
I understand how extremely rare they suggest it is.
The context of the paper is confusing to me. Because it doesn't seem to specify whether they are refering to a plant or seed. Neither I guess.
The polyploidy seems to be formation of the seed only, but the parent plant's own sexuality is facultative, not natural?
This was intriguing to me, because of the correlation between Apomixis, environmental conditions and geographical areas.
For me it was the closest thing to Rhodelization theory I've seen so far.
I'd also consider myself atheist, so hassle someone else about that other crap. Has nothing to do with anything I asked or said.
Please, if you have any further reading material regarding apomictic plants, I'd appreciate if you can point me in the right direction.
Thanks for your reply.
None of my quotes came from you sir....Look at my post again.could it be that this was directed at me; bc you seemed to have misquoted... ?
its not the effect of genes whatsoever but a chromosomal aberration.... are we even talking the same subject?
it depends, actually this "herming" as growers call it is kind of very natural and esp. in higher evolved plants occurs regularily. Its a strong mechanism for survival. It's seen often in landraces, just ask @Avinash
However, in large populations usually there's no need for this as they'll get pollenized early on.
When plants do herm, its not like their doing just bananas and pollenize themselves, they also can use Apomixis at the same time. Even before/after a nanner did come out. Growers who don't know about that and find seeds in their stash may come to false conclusion they've overlooked a nanner, when inreality there never was one, or not opened yet
only seeds can use Apomixis. With strains that are bred for fast flowering (2-3 months as compared to 4-6 months for pure landraces) there#s simply not enough time for a seed to develop healthily if it happens indoors. Most of them are just white ont he outside. But even if it would finish - no need to preserve the genetic of a plant that displays a behaviour which actually should've been selected out by breeders.
You're right it won't affect potency in such a way as trichome count, single trichome mass, etc pp... but buds will not swell anymore so fromt his point of view potency will not grow to its fullest potential.
Try also out the german wikipedia, it holds more info's/links on that particular subject than the english one. Google translator should do the trick. Its all well explained.
Agamospermie – Wikipedia
de.wikipedia.org
Good luck & happy learning
Well please excuse me for not knowing scientific lingo, not my background or vocabulary at all. My interpretation was false.
I understand how extremely rare they suggest it is.
The context of the paper is confusing to me. Because it doesn't seem to specify whether they are refering to a plant or seed. Neither I guess.
The polyploidy seems to be formation of the seed only, but the parent plant's own sexuality is facultative, not natural?
This was intriguing to me, because of the correlation between Apomixis, environmental conditions and geographical areas.
For me it was the closest thing to Rhodelization theory I've seen so far.
I'd also consider myself atheist, so hassle someone else about that other crap. Has nothing to do with anything I asked or said.
Please, if you have any further reading material regarding apomictic plants, I'd appreciate if you can point me in the right direction.
Thanks for your reply.
Yup. A dangerous, difficult to get viable results, process.You talking about Colchicine treatment or?
Thanks mate, there really isn't any animosity from me at all, it's all good.No, no, don't take it personal now. The answer had nothing to do with that.
As a strain "shifts" to apomictic. The first results are generally poly...In any cannabis.
You aren't going to see this in old school landrace strains much, if at all. Unless chemically treated.
The wonder now is it happening more in hybrid strains. They are most likely to come to it first.
I do not feel it' happens in the way some are thinking. They think they found it and in reality....It's likely unseen nanners or balls...
Some suggestions that it maybe happening in light starved lower branching. There is a ref. to that in a botanical booklet based paper.
If you search that what I said above, in some variation. That booklet will come up. Have to sign up for the site and if you want downloads it costs, like papers. BUT< you can read it online for free.
U2Have a good 1
I've been smoking my own since 1970 and never had any seeded like you're sayin'sometimes female unpollinated buds produce seeds