First off, my family hasn't been 'hawking' beans on the 'market.' That would be the counterfeiters and rip-offs doing that. No one in my family is sitting pretty in the lap of luxury and definitely no one in my family has gotten rich off of hawking beans. And actually in comparison to most the growers and seeds distributers who've used my family's genetics to make money, we actually have been doing this shit for free and as a passion and hobby.
And how many strains out there have been made using as you've stated our '9' strains, too many others to count or keep track of. How much money has been made off those '9' strains, too much to track.
As far as the reaching out with an internet or marketing presence or lack there of considering me and my family's business, what has the incentive been? Are we really going to lose sight of the fact that cannabis is an internationally illegal substance? Are we really gonna lose sight of the fact that as a premier genetics proprietor we're under constant scrutiny and attack from the authorities and con-artist alike?
As far as legal venues opening, oh yes...that is happening. Hence my conversation here. That's what this is all about. You all know our business has a plethora of untapped genetics, no? What will become of these genetics? Will we continue to offer them as a passion, hobby and gift....? That will remain to be seen as to where the current atmosphere of con-artists take us from here.
Pirating movies and music seems a little different that pirating a breeders work whom never got paid for that work. And the pirating aside, who gives a fuck about that, personally, I don't. What I do care about is people attempting to steal my family's brand and the work my father did. Hell, the Blueberry is already everywhere, nothing will ever change that. And Im stoked so many people will get to enjoy it for what's it worth. What I can't stand are people who talk shit and sully the name of my father and his efforts in an attempt to discredit his work so they can steal credit for it themselves.
As far as patenting goes, obviously it will change our attitudes towards breeders once corporate interests step in and start patenting the genetics of the plant we've all come to love. And once that happens we will find a whole new founded respect for breeders like Dj who did it all without patenting and who gave away their work so that others could enjoy it.
In case you missed it, I gave props to the work your dad has done. Props goes back to federation, SSC, Sensi, Mr. Nice and all the people unnamed who've preserved and breed cannabis while this dark period of illegality has consumed the world.
Seems like you have sour grapes for some reason. I didn't realize the seed banks sell your dad's gear for $130. a pack and you did it for free.
I also was unaware that stipulations came when someone bought a pack on what they can and cannot do with the seeds. I must not have seen the terms or service.
Do you expect royalties from other people's work all because they selected a plant, perhaps a grandparent plant, and used it in a commercial cross? What about the reward of labor they put in to working a strain? Or does it only go one way?
You are right, pirating and plants are different. A plant has many genotype expressions, even if IBL, a digital copy is just that, an exact copy. A selection of a plant is not the same, even if I start with the same stock as someone else. Surely you'd understand that, your father made selections from stock from other growers around the world. Wait, do they receive royalties and money from your dad's work?
Now I could see someone being upset over selling F2 of your father's work, but any grower probably wouldn't want those if they were looking for the real deal right?
And all of us are acutely aware of the illegal nature cannabis has had. From users, growers and breeders, we've all experienced what prohibition has brought. Yet you seem to not realize today is a new day. Surely if you can get seeds across the pond to seed banks, an illegal thing to do, yet your family did anyways, you'd know it's a new day now with places outright legalizing it. Seems as if you've gotten too comfortable with the market share you had for so long and haven't been innovative with the technology others have figured out how to utilize in their favor.
Eta: I'm glad you call yourself premiere, which is to be leading/foremost/outstanding, but how many times are others saying that about you on the regular? Again, not trying to be mean, but what threads on here have the most positive postings? What breeders on here are consistently praised? Again I ain't knocking ya, shit I have Bodhi's Blueberry Hill in a jar right now. He gave those away as freebies as your family requested he not sell them. Granted he used JJ Top dawgs Appy male in that cross and many others with his blessing for sale.
As I said I've enjoyed many of what your family has done, but impovrished? Is there some weird bust we never heard about? Because even if you were only getting $40 a pack over all these years I can't understand how you'd be impovrished. Shit, I owe a small student loan the size of a mortgage, and even I don't describe myself as impovrished, temporarily broke is all.
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