Do You Think? It's Wrong to Steal from Wal-Mart?

tinyTURTLE said:

theives are peices of shit. if you are stealing anything at all from anybody, you are a peice of shit. grow up and pay for stuff.

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so when 10 year old kid on the street cuz thats where he lives by him self with no family steels some food or some blankets or even a fucking tooth brush to stay some what clean. would you think that lil kid was a peice of shit. i know i would not maybe a older person but not a kid who really has no choice in it its either death or life

man some of you guys are harsh. but overall i agree with all of you(except me being a piece of shit)

mcpurple said:

so when 10 year old kid on the street cuz thats where he lives by him self with no family steels some food or some blankets or even a fucking tooth brush to stay some what clean. would you think that lil kid was a peice of shit. i know i would not maybe a older person but not a kid who really has no choice in it its either death or life

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conceded that stealing for survival is different.
there is probably real shame involved, as well as the realisation that you are doing something wrong.
i was over reacting and being obtuse.
but the op's post made me angry.

fiskars are cheaper at home depot than at walmart?
like i would know, i don't shop there.

mcpurple said:

if you have to steal to live then by all means fucking do it. if you dont need it though dont steel it. when i was 15 and living on the streets i would go in to wal mart and go to the shirt section and toss a plain red,white,black t shirt what ever color i felt and put it on and wlked out. i would also go to the deli get some chicken then walk around the store eating it, a bag of chips and a soda pop and then just leave when finished. i dont do this any more only wheni needed to feed and cloth my self in hard time

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^This if stealing is neccesary to live then by all means live, however i hope that as a society we can provide food and clothes to people that need it.
Also puffenuff thats crazy you guys were ALLOWED to tackle people. At Bestbuy they forbade us to touch the customer because $1000 TV < $100,000 Lawsuit.

All about the money

Oh and OP i still love you everyone makes mistakes and im sure in the big picture walmart wont bat an eye

BlazedMonkey said:

How much money do you have? Would it be okay for me to steal $20 bucks? Its less than 1% of your net worth though!?
IMHO stealing is wrong 100% of the time, not to say walmart isnt evil but as a great man once said "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" aka two wrongs dont make a right (but three lefts do)
Plus as others have pointed out, stealing increases walmarts losses so they simply pass it on to the consumers or their insurance (who in turns passes it on down the line).

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sadly, i wish 20$ was 1% of my net profit. im a poor mofo. 1% walmart net worth? millions? im not saying that makes it right by any mean though.

puffenuff said:

I worked loss prevention back in the day. We used to get a rush of adrenaline when idiots would try to steal. My favorite part was watching them on camera thinking they were sneaky and the tackling their dumbasses when the exited the store...and oh how they would beg for us to not bring in police...all I cansay on this post is loss prevention is there to catch theives, police are there to make the arrest, and the theif is there in cuffs looking at a pair of $13 scissors. Theives belong locked up, i don't care if you steal big or small, if you steal a loaf of bread to feed your family, id still bust that ass...that's my stance

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glad your not a cop

tinyTURTLE said:

conceded that stealing for survival is different.
there is probably real shame involved, as well as the realisation that you are doing something wrong.
i was over reacting and being obtuse.
but the op's post made me angry.

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god dam its fucking hard to post anything without someone getting angry.... are u offended or something? As i mentioned, i did feel bad about it. dont take it personal bro, i appreciate u guys opinions, thats why i fucking ask. i dont appreciate your comment one bit. Sorry it made you angry, take a chill pill

puffenuff said:

I worked loss prevention back in the day. We used to get a rush of adrenaline when idiots would try to steal. My favorite part was watching them on camera thinking they were sneaky and the tackling their dumbasses when the exited the store...

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This sounds a bit embellished.
Store security can not tackle anybody due to liability reasons..

F**K Walmart and their unethical sales/marketing methods.
They steal from us every day only most people don't realize it.

BlazedMonkey said:

^This if stealing is neccesary to live then by all means live, however i hope that as a society we can provide food and clothes to people that need it.
Also puffenuff thats crazy you guys were ALLOWED to tackle people. At Bestbuy they forbade us to touch the customer because $1000 TV < $100,000 Lawsuit.

All about the money

Oh and OP i still love you everyone makes mistakes and im sure in the big picture walmart wont bat an eye

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Haha yea it was at a privately owned chain. Once the theif stepped outside, and only if we never lost direct sight of them, we had to flash badges and present ourselves as loss prevention officers. Then if the ran we could chase and tackle. Man Im sort of missing those days now

I'll use an analogy here...

It is ok to steal from wal-mart since they make billions a year. Therefore it is ok to steal from your electric company. They make billions a year, right?

Rj41 said:

This sounds a bit embellished.
Store security can not tackle anybody due to liability reasons..

F**K Walmart and their unethical sales/marketing methods.
They steal from us every day only most people don't realize it.

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Not embellished one bit, we had rules and guidelines to follow in order to make a catch. Our pay was on a sliding scale based on the number of catches and thieves that we stopped so you better believe we were vigilant as could be

Rj41 said:

This sounds a bit embellished.
Store security can not tackle anybody due to liability reasons..

F**K Walmart and their unethical sales/marketing methods.
They steal from us every day only most people don't realize it.

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when i was 15 i worked at a media play and damn straight theives got tackled. this was in the late 90's so i don't know if this is the case now, but we were actually "expected" to chase the theives. i wasn't in loss prevention, either. i just stocked movies. they also physically frisked us before we left each night, which i'm almost certain is illegal today. one time my buddy came in and stuck a security tag in the armpit of my hoodie and i was stuck there for an extra half hour because i kept setting off the alarm. i was frisked 4 times.

i used to be a kleptomaniac

BL0TT0 said:

I'll use an analogy here...

It is ok to steal from wal-mart since they make billions a year. Therefore it is ok to steal from your electric company. They make billions a year, right?

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Anybody got a good way to steal from the big oil companies? I want in on it, lol!

cannabis420420 said:

i used to be a kleptomaniac

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i used to be as well. i would steal cars for fun and then take anything of value inside of them and then ditch the car. i know it was a bad thing to do and i feel karma has already paid me back for my past.

mcpurple said:

i used to be as well. i would steal cars for fun and then take anything of value inside of them and then ditch the car. i know it was a bad thing to do and i feel karma has already paid me back for my past.

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not unless someone steals your car and takes all your shit.

worm5376 said:

So you've been?

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Nope... I don't shop at Walmart. I like shit that lasts.

Stealing is stealing, no matter where and who you take it from. What a silly/childish question.

see4 said:

Stealing is stealing, no matter where and who you take it from. What a silly/childish question.

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ugh...so simple minded... what about that great example given earlier bout a 10 year old steals to survive....

Rj41 said:

Anybody got a good way to steal from the big oil companies? I want in on it, lol!

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Yea, it's called buying a Chevy Volt or Nissan Leaf. Or move into the city and walk. That is the best way to fight the big oil companies. I'm actually considering trading in my Mercedes for a Volt. I might wait 1 year for Chevy to work out some of the 'bugs' the car might have.

Absolutely it is wrong,
However if your survival is at stake then I believe absolutely nothing should stop you from doing whatever it is you need to do, to stay alive and in the gene pool.
I completely disagree when people use the "big corporation" scapegoat to do a self-justified "victim-less crime". Walmart "destroyed" the "town" I used to live in according to some. Closing 10+ small businesses which employed I imagine 3-4 people per store (that would be a high estimate)..
HOWEVER Walmart hired over 90 SALES associates at a generally higher wage of $10.75/hr WITH benefits.. This does not include management which almost all live locally.

Honestly, I would much rather support fair pricing and mass employment and benefits than the old "downtown" owners that would simply resell product at whatever they could get away with whilst paying minimum wage and providing (generally) no benefits. The stores that remained where service outlets and genuinely useful home-made and hand-crafted establishments.. It did however have an adverse short-term effect on the service-industry (tattoos/haircuts/banks/fast food) however this had recovered quite substantially before I relocated.

Whilst shopping at WalMart I can now live significantly cheaper giving myself disposable income to spend on other things around town, or allowing me to put money aside for long-term investments (the savings can be upwards of 75%).

Now just like all the signs say, shoplifting:
a) Creates a higher ratio of writeoff's, thus pushing product prices higher to cover the loss.
b) Creates issues with employee pay-schemes, as with lower profits they will inevitably freeze wages/cut benefits.

So I would only personally find it permissible when you or someone you love needs it for survival.

EDIT:
Quite a bit of talk about Karma here..
I'd think we all can admit we know Karma doesn't exist, naturally we draw conclusions on coincidences but to think that stealing a pair of scissors is going to physically effect a unrelated event in his life is ludicrous. You can tie ANY event to the root cause of it's existence.. It was not a event "created" by Karma, (it happened because you haden't changed the brake lines, you were doing 150km/hr, and the line disconnected minutes before that "S" bend - NOT because you have a dead hooker in your trunk and that's bad Karma)

If you steal the scissors and you do not get caught (then or later) then there will be no negative consequence (ignoring guilt/mental anguish if it applies)..