Donald Trump

OddBall1st said:

Not one thing Racist about it,...unless you live by racism....You must point out this racism I am accused of,...please.

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You just said "the Mexicans and other Latin Americans all claim to be running away from thieves, murders, drug cartels and kidnappers,...and all Donald said was they were thieves, murderers, drug cartels and kidnappers.

So who is right ? Them or Donald ?"

Implying that either Donald Trump is right that they are all thieves, murders, kidnappers, rapists and cartel members.

I've done a lot of work with the hispanic immigrant community, Trump is really wrong. They're fleeing violence, and they have fled violence in the past and sometimes that violence has had American dollars directly financing it in the name of "stopping Communism from growing in our own back yard."

So to say all Mexicans/Latinos are violent criminals is cruel and racist.

If that's not what you were implying and accidentally did, then clearly you're not racist. If you did indeed mean that, maybe you're just a closet racist and hopefully you'll change your views.

The problem is, you feel Donald meant all Mexican too. He didn`t and I didn`t,...

Either way, saying that a race is violent or criminal,...is not being Racist. Saying that you hate or despise someone because of their race,...is, I did neither.

You and soooooo many others really need to learn what a Racist comment is.

Where did you get this,...If you say they`re good you`re not racist, and if you say they`re bad, than you are racist ?

None of what I said has anything to do with their race,....Location is not a human Race.

If I say the Nazi were horrible Jewish murderers,.. Am I a Racist against Germans ?

OddBall1st said:

The problem is, you feel Donald meant all Mexican too. He didn`t and I didn`t,...

Either way, saying that a race is violent or criminal,...is not being Racist. Saying that you hate or despise someone because of their race,...is, I did neither.

You and soooooo many others really need to learn what a Racist comment is.

Where did you get this,...If you say they`re good you`re not racist, and if you say they`re bad, than you are racist ?

None of what I said has anything to do with their race,....Location is not a human Race.

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You need to learn what racism is.

rac·ism (ˈrāˌsizəm)
noun

1. the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
   • prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
     "a program to combat racism"
     synonyms:racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia,chauvinism, bigotry, casteism
     

So yes, saying that Mexicans are just a bunch of rapists and murders is, by definition, racist.

Youth,....................!I

OddBall1st said:

Youth,....................!I

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Do you want me to break out my copy of the Oxford English Dictionary? You can't say, "This is what it means," and then when confronted with a definition from a dictionary discard it as "Youth." That's just being a moron and willfully ignorant.

pnwmystery said:

You need to learn what racism is.

rac·ism (ˈrāˌsizəm)
noun

1. the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
   • prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
     "a program to combat racism"
     synonyms:racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia,chauvinism, bigotry, casteism

So yes, saying that Mexicans are just a bunch of rapists and murders is, by definition, racist.

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So where did I imply I was better ? Who did I compare them to ? I didn`t.

pnwmystery said:

Do you want me to break out my copy of the Oxford English Dictionary? You can't say, "This is what it means," and then when confronted with a definition from a dictionary discard it as "Youth." That's just being a moron and willfully ignorant.

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No, I did not compare or say anyone else was better,....you missed that second half that would imply racism.

Maybe you added it... Did you ?

OddBall1st said:

No, I did not compare or say anyone else was better,....you missed that second half that would imply racism.

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So you just didn't realize what you implied by saying that then? Lol. Gold.

pnwmystery said:

So you just didn't realize what you implied by saying that then? Lol. Gold.

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No, you took it upon yourself to judge what I said and not ask what I meant, and by your dictionary definition, I did no such thing.

I repeated statements made by both. If you are running away from your violent country, you come from a violent country,....No ?

OddBall1st said:

No, I did not compare or say anyone else was better,....you missed that second half that would imply racism.

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pnwmystery said:

If that's not what you were implying and accidentally did, then clearly you're not racist. If you did indeed mean that, maybe you're just a closet racist and hopefully you'll change your views.

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Remember when I typed that too in response to what you said?

But when Trump says "Mexicans are a bunch of rapists and murders," he's implying that a good majority of them are. He did not say "Some Mexicans are" he did not say "10% of Mexicans are," nor did he say, "A small amount of Mexicans are," he said "Mexicans are," which implies a good majority of them. It's like when you say: Mexicans are lazy. The way this is read is [All] Mexicans are lazy. Get where I, and many other people who speak the English language correctly, are coming from?

And dude, learn how to read. Read that definition a few times, a comparison isn't the sole definition of what makes a statement/person racist.

pnwmystery said:

Remember when I typed that too in response to what you said?

But when Trump says "Mexicans are a bunch of rapists and murders," he's implying that a good majority of them are. He did not say "Some Mexicans are" he did not say "10% of Mexicans are," nor did he say, "A small amount of Mexicans are," he said "Mexicans are," which implies a good majority of them. It's like when you say: Mexicans are lazy. The way this is read is [All] Mexicans are lazy. Get where I, and many other people who speak the English language correctly, are coming from?

And dude, learn how to read. Read that definition a few times, a comparison isn't the sole definition of what makes a statement/person racist.

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So when I call Nazis murderers, and Russians commi Am I racist in your mind ? How about Japanese,.. Japs,.. or Jewish Jews ??

Like your definition said, I must compare them to another race or claim mine is superior before Racism even comes into play,...otherwise I am describing.

Who did Donald say was superior ? Who did Trump compare them to ? see, you take things too literally and the first thing that comes to mind is Racism. You been reading too much Buck.

OddBall1st said:

So when I call Nazis murderers, and Russians commi Am I racist in your mind ? How about Japanese,.. Japs,.. or Jewish Jews ??

Like your definition said, I must compare them to another race or claim mine is superior before Racism even comes into play,...otherwise I am describing.

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Well seeing as how Jap is viewed as an ethnic slur by Japanese speaking people, yes, that would be racist. As to the other ones, those ones are just ingrained in American culture with some amount of truths to it, but calling Russians Commies now a day would just make you look pretty dumb. Once again, context is important.

Once again, it does not necessarily have to be a comparison to make someone superior, however the implication of saying that all Mexicans are rapists and murderers and that's why they're coming here is that the we're superior to them.

Once again, learn to read, the comparison to make superior is not necessary. It says "especially to..." which also means, "In most cases it is used to..." or "More often than not..." all of which are not stipulations but conditions and/or modifiers.

Am I actually having to teach you how the English language works???

If Donald had said Americans are a bunch of armed robbers womenizers and druggies, which we are, would you call that Racists against his own race even though no comparison was made or would you say he is describing ?

OddBall1st said:

If Donald had said Americans are a bunch of armed robbers womenizers and druggies, which we are, would you call that Racists against his own race even though no comparison was made or would you say he is describing ?

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Yes, because not all Americans are. It's a stereotype "that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race," which would be drug addicts, adulterers and thieves. Once again, context is important.

pnwmystery said:

Well seeing as how Jap is a racist term, yes, that would be racist.

Once again, it does not necessarily have to be a comparison to make someone superior, however the implication of saying that all Mexicans are rapists and murderers and that's why they're coming here is that the we're superior to them.

Once again, learn to read, the comparison to make superior is not necessary. It says "especially to..." which also means, "In most cases it is used to..." or "More often than not..." all of which are not stipulations but conditions and/or modifiers.

Am I actually having to teach you how the English language works???

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Donald did not say all Mexicans,.....you added that, he said Mexicans.

No you are adding to what`s been said. You wont teach me a thing,...I will set you straight on what a Racist is,...

OddBall1st said:

Donald did not say all Mexicans,.....you added that, he said Mexicans.

No you are adding to what`s been said. You wont teach me a thing,...I will set you straight on what a Racist is,...

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Once again, when he says Mexicans without any modifier, the implication is that he's saying [All] Mexicans. Until he says otherwise, that's what he said. He did not say "Some" or "Most" or "A few" or "A portion" or a "A minority" or "Mexicans are fleeing because of the violence," he said "Mexicans are..." which implies "[All] Mexicans are..."

I am teaching you how the English language works, anyone else who's reading this can see it. This is how the English language works, whether or not you like it.

pnwmystery said:

Yes, because not all Americans are. It's a stereotype "that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race," which would be drug addicts, adulterers and thieves. Once again, context is important.

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OK, If context is important,...Black is unique, teeth and eyes are unique to Races,.. so,...I should never point out a black man is black or and Asian has serrated teeth and slanted eyes?

STFU, you are what`s know as a race baiter.....................