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Dr Greenthumbs G13
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SCARHOLE
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Do you got a link?
Also lets play nice, no name calling.
I usualy agree with Bricktops posts.
I welcome his imput.
Brick Top
New Member
So an unsubstantiated claim is now being held up as proof?
From Mr. Nice Forums, written and posted by Kangativa; "What do you want Drum, do you want me to show you all the PM's.....not going to happen !!! Do you want me me to tell you what Nevil says.....you wont believe me anyway.....do you want me to say what Dogless says.......not up to me !!"
So Senator McCarthy holds up his briefcase and said here in my briefcase I hold the proof ......... but Senator McCarthy refuses to open up his briefcase and show people the proof.
Explain this one Mr. Wizard. From Dr. Greenthumb's webpage for his fake G13
" Now Available " G13
Product Code- G13F- (Feminized) ♀
[The Original Neville's Cut- First Pure G13 Seed EVER!!!]
Long Lasting
Pleasant, happy buzz
THE BIGGEST AND HEAVIEST
PLANT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE!
Potency: 4½ out of 5
Taste: Lightly Fragrant – Fruity
G13F
Compare that to some info about the real G13 and try to explain it away.
So how did the pure G13 go from tasting like lawn clippings, soaked in a mixture of urine and feces to becoming; "Fruity" flavored? And how did the strain in pure form have a low yield and now in Dr. Greenthumb's fake-pure form it's a cash cropper's dream plant with very heavy yields?
Nevil's cut lost vigor over 20 years ago and yet someone managed to maintain it when Shanti and Nevil couldn't? Why wouldn't Shanti and Nevil have this cut if it was still around and being held by a friend? Why wouldn't Shanti and Nevil know a friend had the cut?
Nothing adds up. Dr. Greenthumb's story has changed several times. People who were claimed to have been involved in one way or another have said no way. The strain has changed in a major way totally transforming from what it was when pure into the fake Dr. Greenthumb is now trying to get richer off of pawning it off to suckers. And your proof is a claim of a PM saying otherwise. While claiming to have received the PM Kanaga also included; "Maybe one day when Nevil gets his computer back online he might tell the whole story."
I guess you want people to believe that Nev borrowed someone else's computer to send Kangativa a PM to clear things up but didn't think it worth the time to instead say something in the open forum so everyone would know or take another few minutes and retract what he had said at another time elsewhere.
I do have to admit, you did pick the perfect username for you to use, punkenstien ... because you are nothing more than one more little wet behind the ears punk who needs to believe they know it all and thinks that calling me; "Shit Top" and saying; "So stfu and go back in your hole biaaaatch" will make up for a total lack of actual knowledge and cover up you're having a very vivid imagination.
It's all the mouth breathing knuckle draggers like you who are only the first generation of your families to walk upright that have me so utterly fed up with this site. As long as it allows imbecilic cretins like you to be members it will forever remain a university of ignorance.
Brick Top
New Member
That was posted after in message #51
So Nev's computer is not online, but he borrowed one, or something, just to PM Kangativa and only Kangativa with the super secret information rather than post it in the forum where Kangativa is one of only a few people claiming Dr. Greenthumb's fake G13 is the real deal.
Why wouldn't Nev have posted it in the open forum and put an end to all of it once and for all rather than just PM Kangativa? Why would Nev ONLY want Kangativa to know the facts rather than tell EVERYONE the facts? It wouldn't have taken any more time or been any more difficult for Nev to tell EVERYONE in an open forum rather than ONLY allegedly tell Kangativa in a PM.
It doesn't make any sense but it does fit in perfectly with the ever evolving story coming from Dr. Greenthumb and the he said, she said story he is attempting to rely on to cover up his selling fake G13.
stonedmetalhead1
Well-Known Member
LOL, I must have been stoned when I wrote this it should be:
While the origins of G13 are up for debate the fact that there is a plant called G13 and has been used for breeding for years is not. Nevil's G13 is the plant that made G13 famous and was used by Shanti and Nevil, Vic High and others used Airbornes cut which was found to be G13/NL. Just from the description you can tell it's not Nevil's cut.
I'm surprised no one ripped me a new one for that. I laughed my ass off when I reread it.
Brick Top
New Member
When there is a thread about G13 x NL #5 rather than G13 that will be pertinent information, unless that too is another case of; "so the story goes."
SCARHOLE
Well-Known Member
I was thinking that a breeder/breeders took the g13 crossed with Haze an skunk (or NL?).
Backbred them tell they had a 99% g13,(g13-99?).
An bread it for desired trates for alot of years.
Its about the only way I can think of to explain the stains good taste an HEAVY yeild.
Subcool talks G13 breeding..
Breeding has many complexities that I won’t begin to try and explain here today. But I think our main goal was very simple, to combine an extremely potent “Sativa hybrid” with a “heavy yielding, ultra purple strain”. The results would be a purple strain with the potency added from that parent. What gets tricky is many strains like G-13 are extremely dominant and can take over a cross. When you cross BlueBerry and G-13, usually you just make a nasty tasting, watered down version of both. This doesn’t mean that there are not good Blueberry G-13 crosses; its just breeding is not as easy as 2+2=4. There is also a big difference between “breeders” and “seed makers”. Anyone can take a male and pollinate a female. This is not breeding; it is making copies with large variations. Again if they’re sold cheap, a winner can still be found if enough seeds are grown out. The difference is the selection process of the parent strains.
Backbred them tell they had a 99% g13,(g13-99?).
An bread it for desired trates for alot of years.
Its about the only way I can think of to explain the stains good taste an HEAVY yeild.
Subcool talks G13 breeding..
Breeding has many complexities that I won’t begin to try and explain here today. But I think our main goal was very simple, to combine an extremely potent “Sativa hybrid” with a “heavy yielding, ultra purple strain”. The results would be a purple strain with the potency added from that parent. What gets tricky is many strains like G-13 are extremely dominant and can take over a cross. When you cross BlueBerry and G-13, usually you just make a nasty tasting, watered down version of both. This doesn’t mean that there are not good Blueberry G-13 crosses; its just breeding is not as easy as 2+2=4. There is also a big difference between “breeders” and “seed makers”. Anyone can take a male and pollinate a female. This is not breeding; it is making copies with large variations. Again if they’re sold cheap, a winner can still be found if enough seeds are grown out. The difference is the selection process of the parent strains.
This just shows how much BrickTop knows about the "Story" LOL!!
Hey Brick, here is a little secret, DD recieved a cut of NL#5 from Nevil when he received the G13 cut back in 86.
I wasn't talking about a cross of G13xNL#5
And also Brick I have Doc's G13 and his Endless Sky kickin ass and taking names in my garden, probably the nicest marijuana plants I have ever seen, and im not even phased about the seed cost, they will surely be worth every dime.
Brick Top
New Member
If so then as Shantibaba and Neville have said, it would have to be one of the hybrids and not PURE G13 regardless of what any breeder chose to call it. It would still be G13 x something or another back crossed with G13 some number of times ... but that would NEVER make it pure and G13again, it would never be the original G13 again and Dr. Greenthumb calls it; "The Original Neville's Cut- First Pure G13 Seed EVER!!!." Not the first original HYBRID made from G13 ever.
It is somewhat similar to the Romulan people were getting in the past. By the time it made it to pro breeders it was in a clone only form, that means no males to use to make seeds. It was in the pre-feminized seeds days so crosses were made with various indica strains to make seeds to sell and some breeders, even though it was a cross, a hybrid, still called it Romulan when it was Romulan x something or another.
Brick Top
New Member
This just shows how much BrickTop knows about the "Story" LOL!!
Hey Brick, here is a little secret, DD recieved a cut of NL#5 from Nevil when he received the G13 cut back in 86.
I wasn't talking about a cross of G13xNL#5
And also Brick I have Doc's G13 and his Endless Sky kickin ass and taking names in my garden, probably the nicest marijuana plants I have ever seen, and im not even phased about the seed cost, they will surely be worth every dime.
Look at your own words:
Originally Posted by fletchman
DoubleD said Nevil wants the G13 and NL#5 cut back. You said G13 and Nl #5 cut, singular, as in one strain. Nev did release a G13 x NL#5 cross. When you used the singular form, saying cut instead of cuts, if you were talking about two different cuts you gave a totally wrong impression.
Congrats on your current growing success. I wasn't so lucky when I purchased Dr. Greenthumb's claimed to be 100% real, original, true, Acapulco Gold and it turned out more like Ghetto Gold. The 100% real, original, true Acapulco Gold that I had purchased and smoked and grown and smoked MANY times in the past and that I knew VERY well was TOTALLY different in every conceivable way than the Ghetto Gold Dr. Greenthumb sold me.
The Acapulco Gold that Dr. Greenthumb sold me was no more the real true Acapulco Gold than I am Jessie Jackson. So Dr. Greenthumb has a proven track record of selling fakes of famous strains from the past. Deal with it, I have.
doc111
Well-Known Member
lol! You should ask Brick Top what he thinks about subcool.
Brick Top
New Member
That's actually what I know about SubCool, not what I; "think about SubCool," and that is not something I go into in open forums here because it would instantly start WW III and bring Armageddon to RIU since SubCool is perceived as being such a beloved; "businessman/rockstar" among many here.lol! You should ask Brick Top what he thinks about subcool.
doc111
Well-Known Member
My apologies...........what you KNOW about subcool. lol!
That never stopped you before Brick.
Brick Top
New Member
My apologies...........what you KNOW about subcool. lol!
That never stopped you before Brick.
You would be amazed by how many things I know that I have never said .. but again; "That's actually what I know about SubCool, not what I; "think about SubCool," and that is not something I go into in open forums here because it would instantly start WW III and bring Armageddon to RIU since SubCool is perceived as being such a beloved; "businessman/rockstar" among many here."
doc111
Well-Known Member
Like I said: That never stopped you before Brick.
Brick Top
New Member
Like I said: That never stopped you before Brick.
That is only an assumption on your part. As I said; "You would be amazed by how many things I know that I have never said .. but again; "That's actually what I know about SubCool, not what I; "think about SubCool," and that is not something I go into in open forums here because it would instantly start WW III and bring Armageddon to RIU since SubCool is perceived as being such a beloved; "businessman/rockstar" among many here."
I'm sorry but you are just going to have to live with it ... and of course inaccurately claim I know nothing to tell just because I will not start WW III and tell it in an open forum.
So go ahead and make up all the stories you want ... no matter how many you create all of them put together if multiplied by infinity would never alter what I know too be true.
So you will just have to live with that fact.
Angry Pollock
Well-Known Member
what he said
doc111
Well-Known Member
Oh, how will I ever 'live with that fact'?
Are you the most arrogant person here at RIU?
