DUI Thread

[fdd2blk]

The sobriety tests isn't a test, its a ploy to get you to incriminate yourself and give the cop evidence for court. Never agree to the tests.

A lawyer friend of mine told me of a case in which the cop's dash board recording was brought into court by the defense to show that the driver never swerved as the cop claimed. The Judge saw the evidence and simply didn't care.

Laws vary in different states but never admitting to drinking anything is the first line of defense. Also, there are other tricks you can learn about on line. If you get a fair judge these can help - if you get a Nazi maybe not.

Also know that cops have special flashlights that sniff alcohol so you want to roll down the windows prior to stopping crank the air and answer yes or no only.

And never under any circumstances be fooled into advocating your own loss of liberty like 90% of the idiots out there.

link please.

 

[hom36rown]

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9906/16/driving.while.illuminated.tt/

 

[fdd2blk]

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9906/16/driving.while.illuminated.tt/

cool, i hope they catch EVERY SINGLE one of you.

 

[hom36rown]

Whatever you do, do not take the field sobriety tests...and do not do the blood test, unless you are pretty sure youre under the limit. The urinalysis and breath test are both pretty inaccurate, which could mean you'd test over the limit even if you really aren't...but the innacuracy of test can be a good argument for you in court. If you blow a .09, there is a chance you could get off with a decent lawyer...anything more than that you should probably just accept your punishment, as a lawyer costs upwards of $1000

 

[hom36rown]

cool, i hope they catch EVERY SINGLE one of you.

ok .

 

[SmokeyMcChokey]

I'd be willing to compromise on DUI'S.....

No penalty up to .15, but anything over that the cops get to pistol whip you.

hahahaha i would have been beat a couple of time that i was let off!!! haha it is a good idea though put your physical safety in danger if you are caught driving with a .15% or more BAC. It seems fair because at that point you are risking the safety of others so you deserve to be beat... lol... although .15 is almost the perfect BAC because in my experience, (according to the police report) .249% is enough to put you in jail for the night... (luckily it was a drunken in public and not a DUI) although it truly blows to wake up on the top bunk an have to blow chunks.... not to mention not remembering how it was you got to jail to begin with

 

[SmokeyMcChokey]

Whatever you do, do not take the field sobriety tests...and do not do the blood test, unless you are pretty sure youre under the limit. The urinalysis and breath test are both pretty inaccurate, which could mean you'd test over the limit even if you really aren't...but the innacuracy of test can be a good argument for you in court. If you blow a .09, there is a chance you could get off with a decent lawyer...anything more than that you should probably just accept your punishment, as a lawyer costs upwards of $1000

I'm sure that you know then when you apply for a driver's liscence here in GA you sign a document that states if you refuse to tak ANY feild sobriety tests including and BAC, blood or urine tests, that you are subject to an automatic one year liscence suspension that is labeled DUI Related... you may not actually get a DUI but if the cop wants to you will get the equivalent at minimum.

 

[hom36rown]

Not true, field sobriety test are 100% voluntary. You do have to take a test once you are brought into the station.

 

[Brevity, The Soul Of Wit!]

I DO NOT, EVER, EVER, FORFEIT MY TEN CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. No matter what I sign or agree to or w/e.

 

[fdd2blk]

how about just calling a cab.

 

[RickWhite]

In MI there is a trick to beating the automatic DL suspension if you refuse to blow. First, refusing a PBT is just a $100 fine which you should opt for.

If they still arrest you and ask you to take a the official Data-master at the station you must or lose your license for a year. BUT, if you ask to call your lawyer and they don't let you it is considered a reasonable refusal and you don't lose your license. Now this is in MI - your state laws may be different. Then again in some Cities the judges could care less what the law says and there is nothing you can do about it. Plus, if you refuse the Data-master, they will get a warrant to draw blood. However, this might buy you an hour or two.

 

[CrackerJax]

In Florida, refusal of a sobriety test automatically makes you forfeit ur license right there on the spot. Says it right on ur license.

 

[RickWhite]

how about just calling a cab.

Don't be so quick to advocate for your own loss of liberty. The statistics you hear about drunk driving are merely propaganda from law enforcement just like the anti-pot stuff.

Fact is, .08% is quite low and just about everyone who drinks will qualify for a DUI at one point or another. It just isn't fair that a 65 year old business owner with 20 employees who has never been in any trouble at all should be pulled over leaving his daughters wedding and have his life completely fucked because he had 3 drinks.

Nobody wants to see a guy who is trashed driving like a mad man but the way law enforcement is making criminals out of law abiding citizens is just wrong.

 

[CrackerJax]

Or....how about a 65 year old business man should already know he is going to drink at his daughters wedding ... and make the appropriate driving arrangements. Like most ppl are able to do.

 

[Straight up G]

We all know how dangerous it is to drive drunk. But, you should know that a lot of what you hear is nothing but propaganda put out by the Government so that they can churn the system and make money.

To make matters worse, the zero tolerance laws in place make criminals out of law abiding citizens who have done nothing wrong. Not only is this a big cash grab, it is also a way of depriving the general public of their basic liberties under the guise of public safety.

The fact is most people drive just fine at .08% BAC - it is not until BAC approaches .15% that we see serious impairment. .08% is 2-3 beers for the average woman and 3-4 for the average man.

So basically, what the cops are doing is just randomly pulling over people who stopped off for happy hour, sticking their alcohol sniffing flashlights in the car and arresting people who are no danger to anyone and screwing their whole life up. And weed stays in your system for up to 30 days so if they decide to test you can be charged with DUI for smoking a joint a week prior to the stop.

See below for more info - this has got to stop.


http://www.motorists.org/dui/

D&D or DUI is not acceptable, end of story.

 

[heathaa]

well about three years ago i got a dui and i was sober. it was about 25 degrees out and i was in shorts in shirt. i was just dropping my nephew off at a friends about a half a mile up the road and a cop pulled me over for my lights not working and i got a dui cuz i couldnt quit shaking. blew zeros on the breathalizer and not stoned. so in the long run i got probation for first offense and went to jail for 3 months. all this over a money hungry marion county florida. needless to say my public defender was the biggest idiot ive ever met and i couldnt afford a lawyer. if i did buy a lawyer i could have reversed the charges for false imprisonment. which my public defender wanted to do but i dont have faith in idiots

 

[Straight up G]

But you can legally drink a fifth of Jack and then use a chainsaw haha.

 

[Straight up G]

well about three years ago i got a dui and i was sober. it was about 25 degrees out and i was in shorts in shirt. i was just dropping my nephew off at a friends about a half a mile up the road and a cop pulled me over for my lights not working and i got a dui cuz i couldnt quit shaking. blew zeros on the breathalizer and not stoned. so in the long run i got probation for first offense and went to jail for 3 months. all this over a money hungry marion county florida. needless to say my public defender was the biggest idiot ive ever met and i couldnt afford a lawyer. if i did buy a lawyer i could have reversed the charges for false imprisonment. which my public defender wanted to do but i dont have faith in idiots

WTH, that pig should be out of a job- another asshole pig thats 1,000,000 to 1.

 

[Straight up G]

In MI there is a trick to beating the automatic DL suspension if you refuse to blow. First, refusing a PBT is just a $100 fine which you should opt for.

If they still arrest you and ask you to take a the official Data-master at the station you must or lose your license for a year. BUT, if you ask to call your lawyer and they don't let you it is considered a reasonable refusal and you don't lose your license. Now this is in MI - your state laws may be different. Then again in some Cities the judges could care less what the law says and there is nothing you can do about it. Plus, if you refuse the Data-master, they will get a warrant to draw blood. However, this might buy you an hour or two.

How about just not getting in the car when your unfit to do so- consider someone elses life instead of your own.

 

[ginjawarrior]

We all know how dangerous it is to drive drunk. But, you should know that a lot of what you hear is nothing but propaganda put out by the Government so that they can churn the system and make money.

To make matters worse, the zero tolerance laws in place make criminals out of law abiding citizens who have done nothing wrong. Not only is this a big cash grab, it is also a way of depriving the general public of their basic liberties under the guise of public safety.

The fact is most people drive just fine at .08% BAC - it is not until BAC approaches .15% that we see serious impairment. .08% is 2-3 beers for the average woman and 3-4 for the average man.

So basically, what the cops are doing is just randomly pulling over people who stopped off for happy hour, sticking their alcohol sniffing flashlights in the car and arresting people who are no danger to anyone and screwing their whole life up. And weed stays in your system for up to 30 days so if they decide to test you can be charged with DUI for smoking a joint a week prior to the stop.

See below for more info - this has got to stop.


http://www.motorists.org/dui/

i notice you said "The fact is most people drive just fine at .08% BAC"
now answer this what about the rest of the people who are not just fine at .08%?
just because you feel fine driving with a couple of beers in you doesnt mean the next person can do the same. anyone who drives inebriated is a real danger to others on the road so instaed of blaming the government for these limits try blaming the muppets who drive when drunk for causing this

oh and i have had 2 dui's had 4 years of my driving life taken away thru bans and another 2 years of non driving due to sky high insurance prices. neither time i was arrested was crash or poor driving related yet i still dont feel bitter about getting caught as i know it was wrong for me to do and there were many other times when i did drive in such a state as to be dangerous and wasnt caught.

its fucking easy for any responsible adult to not drive drunk

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