DUI Thread

[RickWhite]

i notice you said "The fact is most people drive just fine at .08% BAC"
now answer this what about the rest of the people who are not just fine at .08%?
just because you feel fine driving with a couple of beers in you doesnt mean the next person can do the same. anyone who drives inebriated is a real danger to others on the road so instaed of blaming the government for these limits try blaming the muppets who drive when drunk for causing this

oh and i have had 2 dui's had 4 years of my driving life taken away thru bans and another 2 years of non driving due to sky high insurance prices. neither time i was arrested was crash or poor driving related yet i still dont feel bitter about getting caught as i know it was wrong for me to do and there were many other times when i did drive in such a state as to be dangerous and wasnt caught.

its fucking easy for any responsible adult to not drive drunk

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Think about your own argument for a moment. You are saying that people differ in their ability to safely drive at .08%.

I therefore ask you, should the people who can drive fine be punished because others can not? Is this your understanding of fairness?

To those saying just don't drive - that is kind of silly because not everyone can afford to shell out $75 for a cab home. And there is no reason they should have to. The only way to ensure that nothing bad will ever happen to you is if you lock your self in your house and unplug all your appliances every night.

But I don't want to get off track. The reality is that Americans drink and that .08% is a ridiculous one size fits all standard. It is ridiculous for a lot of reasons. You can read about this in the link I provided in the OP.

What you do not want to do is believe a bunch of lies designed to get you to unwittingly surrender your own liberty. This is a lot like the Government convincing a bunch of people that freedom of speech is bad and should be over turned.

And BTW, having ANY THC IN YOUR SYSTEM means you are DUI. And THC stays in your system up to 30 days. So if you want to take a hard line against DUIs, make sure you don't drive for 30 days after smoking a joint. That is the law and you can't have it both ways.

 

[ViRedd]

Think about your own argument for a moment. You are saying that people differ in their ability to safely drive at .08%.

I therefore ask you, should the people who can drive fine be punished because others can not? Is this your understanding of fairness?

OK, but how would we determined in advance a person's capabilities to drive safely at .08%? Should we have some type of testing facilities at the DMV whereby each person applying for a drivers licence drinks until their alcohol/blood level is up to .08% then give them a drivers test to see if they can drive safely? What if at that point, and at that particular time, they DO drive safely? What then? Do we put a special stamp on their licence that says: "OK at .08, but not at 1.0, or 1.2???

 

[fdd2blk]

Don't be so quick to advocate for your own loss of liberty. The statistics you hear about drunk driving are merely propaganda from law enforcement just like the anti-pot stuff.

Fact is, .08% is quite low and just about everyone who drinks will qualify for a DUI at one point or another. It just isn't fair that a 65 year old business owner with 20 employees who has never been in any trouble at all should be pulled over leaving his daughters wedding and have his life completely fucked because he had 3 drinks.

Nobody wants to see a guy who is trashed driving like a mad man but the way law enforcement is making criminals out of law abiding citizens is just wrong.

how fair is it when that same 65 year old man takes out a family of 6 returning home from the movies? oh, wait a minute, that's all made up.

i know dead people.


my loss of liberty? wtf does that mean? i don't drink. and when i rarely do the 2 beers impair me beyond being a safe driver. i know this, regardless of my blood level.

fuck, cell phones are illegal because they cause accidents. not everything is a conspiracy.

lamest thread ever.

i wish you all misery.

 

[ginjawarrior]

Think about your own argument for a moment. You are saying that people differ in their ability to safely drive at .08%.

I therefore ask you, should the people who can drive fine be punished because others can not? Is this your understanding of fairness?

To those saying just don't drive - that is kind of silly because not everyone can afford to shell out $75 for a cab home. And there is no reason they should have to. The only way to ensure that nothing bad will ever happen to you is if you lock your self in your house and unplug all your appliances every night.

But I don't want to get off track. The reality is that Americans drink and that .08% is a ridiculous one size fits all standard. It is ridiculous for a lot of reasons. You can read about this in the link I provided in the OP.

What you do not want to do is believe a bunch of lies designed to get you to unwittingly surrender your own liberty. This is a lot like the Government convincing a bunch of people that freedom of speech is bad and should be over turned.

And BTW, having ANY THC IN YOUR SYSTEM means you are DUI. And THC stays in your system up to 30 days. So if you want to take a hard line against DUIs, make sure you don't drive for 30 days after smoking a joint. That is the law and you can't have it both ways.

dude it sounds like you actually need to man up here and stop bleating about liberties lost when it comes to drink driving. you didnt even answer my question you just turned it back on me with a couple of buzzwords about liberty and fairness.
Are you deliberately trying to sound pathetic and whining or is this some sort redneck satire going on here?

 

[fdd2blk]

 

[ginjawarrior]

lol i'd love to think that these arent his real views and that its all a ploy to keep us arguing on here that would make him pretty inteligent and creative lol i'd be giving out + rep's for the quality satire.
unfortunatly i just get the idea that he really thinks this way.
it just saddens me that theres people out there like this. i know you cant do anything about them tho they will never see the errors of their way
"you'll have to pry my steering wheel from ma blind drunk hands"

 

[fdd2blk]

notice they are standing in a parking lot full of "lines". stupid drunks.

you know cops collect these tapes and trade them like baseball cards. lol


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[420passion]

so heres a good one i heard from a friend that is friends with a former police chief. when you get pulled over just stop in the middle of the road. at that point the cop will get on his loud speaker and yell at you to pull over to the right. refuse the breathalyzer as it is your right. in court the cop will argue that you appeared to be under the influence. your defense is that of course you where not and you must have appeared sober as the officer instructed you to operate the vehicle. dol will still suspend your license for not taking the breath test and you may still a ticket for something els but it sure beats the hell out of a dui if you know your gonna get popped for one.

 

[Cloud City]

Think about your own argument for a moment. You are saying that people differ in their ability to safely drive at .08%.

I therefore ask you, should the people who can drive fine be punished because others can not? Is this your understanding of fairness?

To those saying just don't drive - that is kind of silly because not everyone can afford to shell out $75 for a cab home. And there is no reason they should have to. The only way to ensure that nothing bad will ever happen to you is if you lock your self in your house and unplug all your appliances every night.

But I don't want to get off track. The reality is that Americans drink and that .08% is a ridiculous one size fits all standard. It is ridiculous for a lot of reasons. You can read about this in the link I provided in the OP.

What you do not want to do is believe a bunch of lies designed to get you to unwittingly surrender your own liberty. This is a lot like the Government convincing a bunch of people that freedom of speech is bad and should be over turned.

And BTW, having ANY THC IN YOUR SYSTEM means you are DUI. And THC stays in your system up to 30 days. So if you want to take a hard line against DUIs, make sure you don't drive for 30 days after smoking a joint. That is the law and you can't have it both ways.

If you can't afford a cab then why don't you either walk home or get a ride from someone?

 

[fdd2blk]

so you can't afford a cab but you own a car and can afford booze?

 

[CrackerJax]

We need to replace cars with horses..... the horse knew where home was, and could take the drunken rider to it.

 

[Woodstock.Hippie]

I believe

Smokers Can Drive Drunks Home Safely

Passing an exit is better than passing out.

 

[CrackerJax]

No, impaired is .....impaired. One should not smoke and drive either. People take hurtling through space in two tons of steel at high velocity much too casually.

Think of the children.

 

[SlikWiLL13]

didnt read the whole thread but fuck drunk drivers. fuck drunk drivers. fuck drunk drivers.

Ami and so many more beautiful people would still be here if it werent for you wastes of life.

fuck drunk drivers.

 

[Straight up G]

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I'm with you 100%, I drink every night [different reds] and would never drink drive.

 

[CrackerJax]

Alcohol is a powerful elixir ... and should be treated with respect.
Driving an automobile can be fatal and should be treated with respect.

Mixing the two together is unforgivable......

 

[tical916]

Is this a joke? Refusing a breathalizer does nothing, how would you think that'd even matter...

In Wisconsin, and I`m guessing pretty much everywhere else, They take your blood after being suspected of driving drunk. If you refuse that, they take it anyways and automatically suspend your license for a year.

Just refusing a breathalizer is the dumbest thing I've heard. What do you think the cop is going to do? Just walk and let you go on your way?

Drunk driving is a horrible thing. That kills many innocent people. Sure not everyone is shit faced at .08%. I've had 2 duis when I was younger, fucked my life up good. And I didn't even get in an accident.

 

[medicineman]

No, impaired is .....impaired. One should not smoke and drive either. People take hurtling through space in two tons of steel at high velocity much too casually.

Think of the children.[/QUOTE]

Maybe you should apply this logic to health care.

 

[CrackerJax]

Because it's not the same logic...it's not the same issue...

You wouldn't recognize logic if it was arse raping you from behind.

 

[medicineman]

Because it's not the same logic...it's not the same issue...

You wouldn't recognize logic if it was arse raping you from behind.

Think of the children that die from lack of health care. Dying is dying, no matter the source. I recognize logic just fine. You are against health care reform, so when youi state "think of the children", it makes sense that you are either a hypocrite, or an asshole. My premis is that you are both.