DWC 20 plant sog question.

gudkarma said:

your dwc shorties are looking way phat.
very good work! you are the ganja scientist.

as a hydro fan, root porn is my favorite.
as a smoker, i just love bud shots.

nice!

i use several nutes that tint my roots brown... no issues ...just keep an eye on everything & do those rez changes like normal.

flo-grow, as part of regular rez maintenance, why no hygrozyme?

even though the pic is not sharp & the details a little fuzzy, that bubblegum kush bud still looks 100% stellar!
smoke em if you got em.

impressive!

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Ok pimp. I see u got the light mover up and going. Is the light mover above the plants that r in pic 7? It looks that way. So finally i see what ur working with in full. 2 words bro. ON POINT.. makin my shit look Ghetto with a capital G. lol!!! for real man, very impressive. I like that pump. I need to invest in 1 good pump. Anyway looking good bro...Ganja

Gudkarma, nice ass garden you got there.

IMHO, Hygrozyme is more for soil/soilless grows than hydro.
I have it and have used it. I like the product, just not for DWC.
Hydro DWC is not meant to be "organic" with beni's and such, so Hygrozyme is not needed.
Unless you begin to see root rot, or have to seperate the roots of 2 or more plants (b/c roots will be torn) then it's not needed.
There shouldn't be any root/plant or biological matter of any kind in DWC, that needs to be broken down by the enzymes so the plant can consume it.

Flo Grow said:

Gudkarma, nice ass garden you got there.

IMHO, Hygrozyme is more for soil/soilless grows than hydro.
I have it and have used it. I like the product, just not for DWC.
Hydro DWC is not meant to be "organic" with beni's and such, so Hygrozyme is not needed.
Unless you begin to see root rot, or have to seperate the roots of 2 or more plants (b/c roots will be torn) then it's not needed.
There shouldn't be any root/plant or biological matter of any kind in DWC, that needs to be broken down by the enzymes so the plant can consume it.

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It makes sense. I started using it through another grower and he said he uses it in his hydro setup, but he only uses it for 2 weeks, into flower. so thats what i did. thanks for the info flo. And Hey kharma, i know u were hating on my clear ass pics, so heres some, hopefully clearer pics of the bubblegum...so enjoy..Peace..Ganja

you have to see this.
one hilarious yet functional ebb & flow build : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JJBPTYB840&feature=related

thanks for the compliments dudes.

those new bud shots have me like "shwing".
tastey. yummy.

personally, i love dat kush.
anything indica (or indica dominant) really.

as far as hygrozyme, i can't see how it's not good for dwc... or, for that matter, other synthesized organic products?

i understand the "sterile rez" concept.

however, let's go further.

for the most part, i'm down with bontanicare (a few AN products / some house & garden / foxfarm in the stash).
so that's my knowledge base. http://www.americanagritech.com/fertilizers

what about "liquid karma"? some aspects of it are organic (as are other bontaicare suppliments) yet the bottle clearly notes hydro use & specs.

i assure you it works awesome.
same organic component with the botanicare pro hydro grow & bloom & power fert products.
what say you here?

how about aquasheild? i "hear" its awesome : http://www.americanagritech.com/supplements/aquashield

flogrow, what is your staple grow & bloom base? before additives.
ganjaluvr, you use maxigrow & bloom?

i am still trying to figure out a way to incorporate a carb on the regular in my dwc.
changing out rezzys every two days (max) after a carb load jerks donkey dick.
and, these sweet products do have "hydro use" on the label.

to eliminate waste, i do my best to use the old rez water in my soil grows.

my "main flower" mix for the next dwc change out : is : quick grow bloom (5-10-25) , humic acid , potasium silicate , cal mag , proper ph , 700ppm

last week : was : the main mix minus humic : add hygrozyme
next week : main mix minus humic + looking for a carb to run : any suggestions?
following week : main mix + h2o2 : 2 days after the h2o2 oxidizes + liquid karma
week after : main minus humic : add fulvic acid

* are you telling my flo-grow in order to keep a sterile rez you use NO organic anything ...no way ...no how ...even as a component in another product?

let's discuss. i am curious.

plus, and more importantly, i'd like to fine tune my rez concept in bucket form before i switch to something else... like rdwc with a large main rez.

karma hates waste... & i can't imagine fucking up 35 gallons of nuted water.

should i start another thread?

what up..real quick update. ladies are blowing the fucking roof off the tent. Vertical growth has to stop or i gotta figure something out. I never guessed that a 3" plant turns into a 16" plant in 3 weeks. Mindblowing. Rez was a little low. topped it off. PPm raised to 645 of the maxibloom. Ph at 5.9. So thats that. NOthing really changed looks wise, so im not gonna put picks up tonight. Maybe take a couple days off so u guys will reallly notice the new growth when i do post some more...Peace...Ganja

yeah, dude.

stretchy stretch... bust the roof off the tent.

i put 6 to 8 inch clones right into flower (1 gal planters) & they nearly tripled in size... that's even after experimenting by pruning the tops of 12 (out of 30) plants right before i flowering... and those topped plants still shot up like mad.

ganjaluva2009 said:

what up..real quick update. ladies are blowing the fucking roof off the tent. Vertical growth has to stop or i gotta figure something out. I never guessed that a 3" plant turns into a 16" plant in 3 weeks. Mindblowing. Rez was a little low. topped it off. PPm raised to 645 of the maxibloom. Ph at 5.9. So thats that. NOthing really changed looks wise, so im not gonna put picks up tonight. Maybe take a couple days off so u guys will reallly notice the new growth when i do post some more...Peace...Ganja

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...you could alway pench and bend, then stake/tie them.

I had to bend and pinch my Magic Monkey's this grow.

Karma : Before this 1st DWC, all I used was PBP. Have 8 diff bottles of shit put away right now.
Just using GH FloraMicro and FloraBloom w/ a "pinch" of PBP Cal/Mag in the very beginning, for my DWC. And powder KoolBloom every 2 weeks.
Nothing more. Want to see what "simple" does first, before I start trying to change things.
I do agree that Liquid Karma should be good for DWC, but I already have FloraMicro too.

trichlone fiend said:

...you could alway pench and bend, then stake/tie them.

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thats what i was thinking of doing. at this point, my options are semi limited, but something gotta be done. So should i just bend just enough so the plant is not at risk to get heat stressed? I guess that would be enough. i dont wanna do nothin extensive, just basic tie out of harms way. They are slowing down in vertical growth so this prob should be done and over with fairly soon. Trich, now this is week 3 of flower, is it to late to do some touch up lollipoppin? I just notice a couple of bullshit branches and fans that could come off, but i dont wanna over stress the plant at this point. I mean there are maybe 2 or 3 plants that need touched up and maybe a branch or so from each plant, so it no nothing major, just bullshit i wanna get off of the plant before they really start bloomin hard...Let me know..Ganja

gudkarma said:

yeah, dude.

stretchy stretch... bust the roof off the tent.

i put 6 to 8 inch clones right into flower (1 gal planters) & they nearly tripled in size... that's even after experimenting by pruning the tops of 12 (out of 30) plants right before i flowering... and those topped plants still shot up like mad.

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are those 12 that u trimmed the tops on, as tall as the rest of the plants or are the laggin behind?

ganjaluva2009 said:

are those 12 that u trimmed the tops on, as tall as the rest of the plants or are the laggin behind?

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oddly enough ==> yes

two of the (12) topped plants are even little taller than ones i never touched.

my experiment (unknown strain) indicates:

the plants i never touched are right & tight with great node spacing.
the plants i topped before flower streched tons and node spacing on the new growth is far apart.

fyi : i topped 12 plants 3 or 4 days before i put them into the flower closet ...to see if that would curtail vertical growth & bump up lower branching as they were growing way fast.

also if your plants are healthy & unaffected by pests, trim off that lower branching & leaves.

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flogrow, the KISS method with regard to nutes is probably the best , the easiest, and the least expensive way to approach hydro nute schedules.

i had been thinking about this too... but with so many "suppliments" out there it's hard not to dabble.

What up guys? nada whole lot on my end..but concerning the ladies...awwww shitt....they are finally budding....and budding very well....the just sprouted noticable buds about 3, some were 4 days ago...and they look awesome already...and my little bitches are letting out there first little pungent smells and goddddddddddddddam...it was one of those, make u wanna smack ur momma, they smell so good, type smells.LMAO!!anyway, heres some pics, enjoy and let me know what u think...not to bad for first hydro run...peace.....Ganja

sorry guys, heres the pics...fuckin bubblegum kush, strikes again...

...looks like they're doing their business! Shouldn't stretch much more, ehh? Keep'em up bro.

what up trich, ladies looking lovely as always..just dropping buy, snooping around...shits looking dank...i might be in the backseat, but i still along for the ride....peace bro...Ganja

trich, every time i look over your journal i drool all over my keyboard.

ganja, very pretty ...from the plants to that pink fan.

gudkarma said:

trich, every time i look over your journal i drool all over my keyboard.

ganja, very pretty ...from the plants to that pink fan.

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yo i swear after i put them pics on here last night, i was looking at them to make sure they looked good and i seen that pink fucking fan...i just looks like rainbow bright is growing fucking ganja in my basement,,lol..fuck it does the job..an yo im the same damn way over my man trichs journal, 0 veg ebb and flow, gotta love em

what up everyone?..nadda whole lot here...just took some pics today and thought i'd share with whoever cares to look at them....the one with like 6 little mini colas is a sour diesel that i have in a 5"x5"x5" pot in soil..its just in same tent with dwc (i got the mentality that if i got the space and light, then fill it with dank plants) i just tied it the one time to the side of the pot in the 1st week of flower...just a fuck around plant...im liking results so far though....wonder if she will yield a quarter after cure???Ok with the other in the rezzy, ppm right at 790-795ish...rez temp hanging at a constant 74 degrees...tent temp right at 78-81 degrees during lights on....73-78 degrees with lights out...and just checked ph this morning when i added water to the rez...6.0...so i didnt fuck with it....im diggin all the almost always steady temps and reading all around the board...only thing is, because i have to exhaust in the tent, i just gotta leave the door open when light is on...no big deal...im going to put fan in after i yield....just way easier to run wires and ducting and shit when nothing is in there...ok so thats that...comment if u want...dont if u dont want to...lol....everything is good...cant wait to get some macro pics for u guys....in a couple weeks....peace and keep em green....Ganja

Getting more and more resin !
Doing real good Ganja !

Flo Grow said:

Getting more and more resin !
Doing real good Ganja !

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what up flo???damn bro, u change ur avatar more than i change my draws and thats daily man...lol...yeah they are getting nice...i meant to get a couple good closeups, but could find my magnifying glass...they def have nice resin...and ill soon start them(week4) on something i use just for resin production....thanks for stoping by bro.....keep em green....Ganja
And by the way....love pepe' le pew...He smells like my hoes man!!!!