East Coast Guerilla Monster Attempt 2010

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As stated above, I'm attempting a nice little Guerilla garden. Have my plot set out, seems as though last night and tonight should be the last chills of the season, and I have about 10 clones going..or something around ten.
In my area, Whitetail deer are of the most concern to me, almost even above the Po., but not quite. So, I need me a fence. I happened to find some nice little 3-ft L-type beams in my basement, and attached them with plastic pull-ties to make (as of now) 6ft beams. Now, I know a deer fence should be approx. 13ft high to keep out the biggest of bucks (and we get big 13+ point bucks around here), but I'm planning on hitting up my local farm store, which carries coyote urine, a product called DeerOff (which I've heard from local farmers is excellent), and if I can, some kind of bird netting (I've heard, once they put their snouts up to check it out, it bugs them out, deterring them). I want to use these methods because I'm invading their turf, and I don't want to hurt them at all using barbed wire or some shit like that.
As for sunlight, it's prime, they just wont see complete sunrise nor set. I'd say from about 7AM-5PM of full light come summer. Water is no more than 3 minutes away, (probably only 1, if not for crawling through pricker bushes). As for the soil, it's beautiful, you rub off the layer of leaves and you can see at least 5 or 6 worms moving around, and digging down is even more promising. Love our natural soil, saves me a lot of money.
I'm gonna make a hexagon garden, as shown here. I've done gardens like this before and it works quite well. Not entirely sure of my square footage, I guess 12x12 if I want to get four nice ladies?
Thanks for checkin', I'll post up some pictures tonight of my babes clonin, and perhaps tomorrow I'll begin my process of making my plot livable. Feel free to post, question, comment, advise, whatever. I'd like to see more guerillas from the east coast, and really anywhere, and what they're doing.
 
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(Pic 1) So here's my little setup I got goin in my closet. Got ten little clones, about a week in now I think. I never cloned before, and wanted to try a couple dif. techniques, so I first tried using a willow twig hormone juice, failed on that. Then I tried the store bought hormone powder along with soil in jiffy cubes (Pic 2) and my success was much better, but then I tried the bubble cloner(Pic 3), and that things just awesome, I don't have to do anything : no hormone, no maintenance, nothing, Hell, I didn't even light proof it much, just wrapped a necktie around it, hah.
The bubble clones seem to be going well, I'm starting to see more root bumps (Pic 4) and the guy in front even has some hairs startin'. I assume the ones in cubes are going well, since the ones I did before didn't stay nice and perky. We'll see.
Annnd here's my stealth cab (Pic 5). Started a few seeds from years of saving headies seeds, couldn't tell you the specific strain, but I believe a lot of those seeds were Sour Diesel. So best of wishes with them. Pic 6,7,8 are the three in my stealth cab.
Now to smoke a bowl and go to work...late, oops. Later today I'll probably go clear some of my plot, so perhaps more pics.
 

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Very nice ThinksaymakeDo! I also use the bubble cloner! I have produced hundreds of clones this way. As soon as you see signs of the bumps actually become tiny string like roots..., its on from there. Were talking real fast root growth. I've been told the only thing faster than the Bubble Cloner is the Aero Cloner. And as far as the deer go. They really aren't that bad. Collect your piss in a gallon jug and hide it out there with your plants, Moth balls too! You really want to watch for slugs (possibly) and or insects.bongsmilie
 

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jokero11 said:
looks good when u thinking of moven outdoors
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Thank you! I am waiting for One : The temperatures to even out a little, they dropped down to 32F last night, and early April they got up to almost 90F, so once crazy early spring weather is calm. And Two : Once my little clones establish their roots, so I'll prob. be putting them out one by one, assuming they wont root in symmetry with one another.

PBFseedco. said:
Very nice ThinksaymakeDo! I also use the bubble cloner! I have produced hundreds of clones this way. As soon as you see signs of the bumps actually become tiny string like roots..., its on from there. Were talking real fast root growth. I've been told the only thing faster than the Bubble Cloner is the Aero Cloner. And as far as the deer go. They really aren't that bad. Collect your piss in a gallon jug and hide it out there with your plants, Moth balls too! You really want to watch for slugs (possibly) and or insects.bongsmilie
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Thanks for the info. I don't believe there are many slugs out there, but if there are, what should I use? Is that cayenne pepper mix spray good for slugs? Same with insects, I know of places to get predators for bugs (mantis and spiders), but I just don't know how to keep them around, I suppose some kind of food they like? Or is the insect population obviously not bad, if they feel no need to stick around? There are also Lady Bugs there, which I hear are also predators of many insects that like plants.
appreciate the feedback again.
 
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So I went to my plot today to find...nothing out of the ordinary. Excellent.
Sadly to say, I left my xD card in my comp from this morning, so I grabbed my camera without it. Slightly fortunately, I was able to take 4 pictures. I say slightly because I can only show you some of the area I cleared, and none of my long and arduous task of taking down a path 4ft Wide by approx. 18ft Long of straight pricker bush. (By the way, if you ever plan to do this, all you need is some hedge trimmers and a machete, took me about 2 hours to do this.) But I haven't uprooted everything, nor have I made my beds or fence. So I'll be sure to bring my card along with me tomorrow.
To briefly explain what I did : I first sought out a nice area of DENSE prickers ( or brier, thorn bush, etc.) I proceeded to make a tunnel by snipping away slight bits so that I could have only enough space to army-esque crawl into the huge bush. Then, when in the bush I flipped on my back and proceeded to cut up into this big thorn bush. Up and up I went until I was finally able to stand. Once standing I started snipping away in a circular pattern to start with. (I've only used the hedge trimmers, manual hedge trimmers, thus far.) Once I had enough room for my arms and all that to move freely, I started going nuts with the machete, cutting down in straight lines repeatedly, until my area was a little bit clearer each time. Just remember that if you can find some gloves that will not allow thorns to penetrate, they would be awesome for this and make it much faster, I however had to skim each large stalk of thorns with my machete before being able to grab tight with both hands and pull with all my might. Simple enough, remember to either throw the stuff you cut down to reinforce your security, or save it in a pile as an under bed to aerate your garden, just don't keep roots that will potentially revive themselves. Here are the 4 pictures I did take, it's most of the plot. I'll try to bring a tape measure or something so you can see some dimensions and not just a path of dirt.
 

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Decided against going at 5AM this morning, or today at all. My finger may be broken, potentially just seriously jammed, but it hurts too much to be doin' mad diggin' and pullin' up roots, serious roots. Also, I figured for security reasons, I shouldn't be going to my plot two days in a row. But I'm itchin' to get out there, so I've decided to do some prep work in the basement. I've decided to give each plant it's own raised bed, and in my current clearing of approx. 4Wx18L I figure I'll get about 6 plots 3x4, and I can always do more choppin' to fit the rest of the clones in there, but 6 hopefully monsters should suffice.
Kinda bad news : I noticed last night my airhose was unattached at the pump, so my clones weren't gettin' bubbled for quite a few hours, some of them wilted (Pic1) and I'm not entirely sure they'll make a comeback, the others seem fine. I also checked one of the clones I had going in soil for a while, and it was all ready to transplant, so I got her into the cab (Pic2) for a little while before her outdoor venture.
Some Pictures:
Pic 3,4 : Clones in the bubbler, root progress still slight on most, but that one in front is taking off.
Pic 5,6 : Cab plant #1 profile, nodes. this plant is doin some weird wilting, looks like water or temperature problems, but I dunno?
Pic 7,8 : Cab plant #2 profile, nodes, it kind of looks LSTed down near the stalk. This one is growing beautifully.
Pic 9, 10 : Cab plant #3 close, closer. This one is also oddly wilting, anyone know whats up?
 

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smalltownfella said:
Somebody once told me fishing line makes a good fence. One strand at about 12 inches and one about 3 feet. Good luck on the grow bro.
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That's a nice cheap idea. And those little L-beams I found have holes every half inch or so on both sides, so, theoretically, I could do even more than that. Though I don't want to tangle up my plants.
 
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I was gonna post some relevant stuff, but I think my finger feels good enough to go out and dig today. So I shall return.
 
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Well, it was like 92 out and it's just barely past midday, so I only dug two holes approx. 3x3x about 20 inches deep. Stupidly, I only brought 16oz of drinking water, so I got famished after about two hours of straight diggin'. ('Least I got my tan on, hah.) Today was much too bright to get good pictures, or even pictures descriptive enough to show you my digging process or any dimensions. Once I get the walls to my beds in there, it'll be groovy. 'Til next time, great outdoors.

As for my indoor op., one of the two clones in the bubbler that wilted came back to perkiness (Pic1), but the other still looks a little grim (Pic2) Even another one in the back looks to be grim (Pic3). What my problem is, I believe, is that I only have one airstone(I'm very low on money), so I think I'll go over to the local petshop and pick another one up, to even it out. Oh, but that would require me to get another pump...I'll check out what my wallet says. And to get back on the subject of grim clones, two of the ones I have in soil seem to be goin' down (Pic4).:?:? But whatever, I'm still kind of new with this, and 7 out of 10 is good for me, and I think I only have room for 6 right now anyhow. Hmm. Oh! my cab is looking quite marvelous in comparison to a few days ago. (Pic 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.)
Pic 10, 11 - The clone I repotted. It got taller, the bottom leaves yellowed a bit, but the top set look great. hopefully she'll recover soon and be back to full growth.
 

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i guess your south east coast? u live in flat land or hilly?

you waterin every day or are you gonna set up systems?

this looks sweett man... wish i could roll like this!
 
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Unwanted said:
i guess your south east coast? u live in flat land or hilly?

you waterin every day or are you gonna set up systems?

this looks sweett man... wish i could roll like this!
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It's hilly. I'll water them as the weather allows, and to the plants desire. I don't have any means of setting up a pump-system as of now, but I may look around the house for an old car battery with some juice in it, hook up a pump to that, etc., we'll see. For now, I think I'll keep a decent sized reservoir up there, fill it up in a day, use it up 'til its gone, then fill it up agian, and so forth. Hopefully hard work will yield great results.
 
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Hey man, you seem like your doing something similar to what I'm attempted except a bit more sophisticated and a little larger. I got 5 plants from various strains (outdoor mix) about 3 weeks old that are ready to take out. I gotta do it soon since they are getting a little big for my setup and I need the room. Also the rots are starting to come out the bottom of the Jiffy pots. Think I'm going to try to get a few out tonight if it isn't a complete washout. Dunno about you but they are calling for rain here all night. Got all my holes dug just ran out of dirt! My holes around about 2' in diameter and about 2' deep. Dunno if you done this before, but you'll be amazed how much soil you need ever for small holes.

As for protecting your seedlings, there are a few methods I've used in the past with success. Moth balls and Irish Spring soap work good to keep the critters away. I usually just throw about 6-7 moth balls around each plant no closer than about 3 or 4 feet away. I don't want the chemicals in them to leach into my plant soil. I usually take my knife and carefully shave the soap in a circle around each plant. I go a little closer with that as I don't think it would be as harmful to the plants if it got in the soil. If there are any trees or shrubbery around I usually get the bar and rub it all over the bark really well. Don't worry, I really don't think soap harms the tree if you are worried about that sort of thing. A new one I'm trying out is cayenne pepper. Well, actually I have an old can of pepper stray that I need to get rid of, so I think i am going to spray it on the ground in a perimeter around the plots. Hopefully that protects them long enough until they take hold and there is some other food around for the animals to eat. It seems like early in the season when there isn't much food around is when they tend to eat our sprouts. Once summer takes hold and everything is in bloom they tend to leave it alone in my experience. The fence idea is good, but like any defense, if the deer want it bad enough they are gonna get at it. Unless the fence is like 12' it isn't really going to stop them. I like the fishing line fence idea, I actually tried it out, but I got too frustrated when my line kept tangling and said screw it, haha. I only fish trout so all I had was like 2 lb line, which is extremely thin.

One thing I'm thinking about is experiementing with a cayenne pepper solution in water. May a tablespoon to a gallon? I thinking if I spray it directly on the foliage, as soon as they taste it they won't want it anymore, but I don't know if that would be safe for the plants.

Check out my journal in my signature if you have an extra minute. I would welcome any suggestions.
 
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I apologize for my laziness, just got pretty bad sunburn the other day and didn't want to go out and end up poisoning myself. (Sunblock, sunblock, sunblock. Can't keep thinking my skin is so diesel, I'm white..) So now I'm all healed and well rested, still burnt though so I think I'll go out this evening or tomorrow morning or evening, for it should be cloudy/raining, which would be a welcomed change from famished, hot, and sun-drenched. Tossed two of the jiffy clones, now being down to only 2 (Pic1). Now, it may look like the one is wilting away, ready to die, but it's got roots and none of it's leaves are really dying, so I have hope for this one. We'll see.
In my bub-cloner things are going well. The one that wilted out regained some vigor, nuts to her(Pic2). And the one in front is growing her roots good and plenty(Pic3), but shes starting to yellow, I'm wondering if those roots want some nutes? I don't know much at all about hydro, so maybe I'm just wayyy out there. And the others are looking alright(Pic 4, 5, 6, 7), most of them are nice and bumpy, so, hopefully, they should go soon, might re-position some of them.

And here's some Cab pics, these plants are emitting some damn smell already, I'm pretty excited to see what they give me, maybe sex them in a week or so.
Pic 8, 9 - Cab Plant #1 - Profile, nodes, still all weird and rolling up its leaves and such. Dunno whats up with it. Steady, strong growth though.
Pic 10, 11 - Can Plant #2 - Profile, nodes. I love this plants structure immensely. I hope this ones a female.
Pic 12, 13 - Cab Plant #3 - Profile, nodes. Good plant, looks to be the same genetics as Cab Plant #1. Kind of doing the same leaf things and growing the same. Accidentally burnt this one a bit. Oops.
Pic 14 - The clone! Growing new stuff, losing old stuff, slow growth to be expected.
Pic 15 - Group Shot.
 

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sonar said:
Hey man, you seem like your doing something similar to what I'm attempted except a bit more sophisticated and a little larger. I got 5 plants from various strains (outdoor mix) about 3 weeks old that are ready to take out. I gotta do it soon since they are getting a little big for my setup and I need the room. Also the rots are starting to come out the bottom of the Jiffy pots. Think I'm going to try to get a few out tonight if it isn't a complete washout. Dunno about you but they are calling for rain here all night. Got all my holes dug just ran out of dirt! My holes around about 2' in diameter and about 2' deep. Dunno if you done this before, but you'll be amazed how much soil you need ever for small holes.

As for protecting your seedlings, there are a few methods I've used in the past with success. Moth balls and Irish Spring soap work good to keep the critters away. I usually just throw about 6-7 moth balls around each plant no closer than about 3 or 4 feet away. I don't want the chemicals in them to leach into my plant soil. I usually take my knife and carefully shave the soap in a circle around each plant. I go a little closer with that as I don't think it would be as harmful to the plants if it got in the soil. If there are any trees or shrubbery around I usually get the bar and rub it all over the bark really well. Don't worry, I really don't think soap harms the tree if you are worried about that sort of thing. A new one I'm trying out is cayenne pepper. Well, actually I have an old can of pepper stray that I need to get rid of, so I think i am going to spray it on the ground in a perimeter around the plots. Hopefully that protects them long enough until they take hold and there is some other food around for the animals to eat. It seems like early in the season when there isn't much food around is when they tend to eat our sprouts. Once summer takes hold and everything is in bloom they tend to leave it alone in my experience. The fence idea is good, but like any defense, if the deer want it bad enough they are gonna get at it. Unless the fence is like 12' it isn't really going to stop them. I like the fishing line fence idea, I actually tried it out, but I got too frustrated when my line kept tangling and said screw it, haha. I only fish trout so all I had was like 2 lb line, which is extremely thin.

One thing I'm thinking about is experiementing with a cayenne pepper solution in water. May a tablespoon to a gallon? I thinking if I spray it directly on the foliage, as soon as they taste it they won't want it anymore, but I don't know if that would be safe for the plants.

Check out my journal in my signature if you have an extra minute. I would welcome any suggestions.
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Thanks, yeah, I thought about the Irish Spring and mothballs, I guess I'll probably give that a whirl as well. May as well use as many things in conjunction as I can. As for the soil, I just use our native dirt. its super mineral and nutrient-rich, so long as you have a nice root-system before you put them in they grow wonderfully. I've even gone from seed and they've established (3-4ft high) themselves. I think I'll throw some more worms in once I have my beds set, that'll make it nicey-nice. Look forward to growing together.
 
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