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SmeLLyTreeZ · Oct 18, 2011

When you say trellis them up do you mean like steaking them vertically or more like a scrog screen? What type of medium would you use? Hydroton or just the 4" cubes?

So Rooted Clones-> 2 week veg "Single Cola No training"-> 2x3 F&D table with approx 4 per square foot x 6 square feet-> 24 Plants under 400-600 hps? Something like that??

Edit I would obviously have to keep some healthy moms for this though which kind of puts me in a corner.?

This was my original plan with soil,
4, 3 gallon buckets, vegged for 8-10 weeks, topped and lst'd---> Take clones right before they go into flowering and then veg all the clones out and repeat the cycle.

hellraizer30 · Oct 18, 2011

SmeLLyTreeZ said:
When you say trellis them up do you mean like steaking them vertically or more like a scrog screen? What type of medium would you use? Hydroton or just the 4" cubes?

So Rooted Clones-> 2 week veg "Single Cola No training"-> 2x3 F&D table with approx 4 per square foot x 6 square feet-> 24 Plants under 400-600 hps? Something like that??

Edit I would obviously have to keep some healthy moms for this though which kind of puts me in a corner.?

Sounds right but the mother you would need x2 good mothers
Going 2weeks veg going to be to much go one week and put 24 plants on that table!
Trellis sog screen same type of method!
As for medium 4x4 dimond growdan blocks all the way

SmeLLyTreeZ · Oct 18, 2011

hellraizer30 said:
Sounds right but the mother you would need x2 good mothers
Going 2weeks veg going to be to much go one week and put 24 plants on that table!
Trellis sog screen same type of method!
As for medium 4x4 dimond growdan blocks all the way

Thanks again for all the help, I'm still a ways out but I like to plan ahead so I have time to set everything up! I'm very interested to try something new though and this seems like a perfect way to maxamize my yield!

Approxamatley how big would the mothers have to be to take 12-14 clones off each?
I actually found the perfect resivor for my area, it literally takes up the whole closet lol!!

hellraizer30 · Oct 18, 2011

Take some small plants and start toping every branch, when it recovers 2or 3nodes past where you top
The first time top them again! After that you can pull 30 off a good mom.

SmeLLyTreeZ · Oct 18, 2011

hellraizer30 said:
Take some small plants and start toping every branch, when it recovers 2or 3nodes past where you top
The first time top them again! After that you can pull 30 off a good mom.

Thats exactly how I train my 5 gallon soil girls, the thing I'm worried about is how long can I keep 2 mothers going in a 2x2x2 veg box with cfl's? Might be a dumb question but can you start a mother plant from a clone? Never thought about that..

hellraizer30 · Oct 18, 2011

SmeLLyTreeZ said:
Thats exactly how I train my 5 gallon soil girls, the thing I'm worried about is how long can I keep 2 mothers going in a 2x2x2 veg box with cfl's? Might be a dumb question but can you start a mother plant from a clone? Never thought about that..

Hell yah you can seeded plants tend to get big and take alongtime to grow, a clone you can
Start from day one

SmeLLyTreeZ · Oct 18, 2011

hellraizer30 said:
Hell yah you can seeded plants tend to get big and take alongtime to grow, a clone you can
Start from day one

Hellz yea, I'm pumped. I'll probably shoot a few more questions your way when it comes time to setup but for now I've got some growing to do lol..

ELWOOD73 · Oct 18, 2011

hellraizer30 said:
No im going 25 per table maybe 20 each and going 1 1/2 weeks veg then 12/12 looking to let them fill out,
Was thinking a al b fuct style grow but maybe next one. My goal is 1lb of each table

Will you be changing from Ebb and Grow or just adding it to your set up ?

hellraizer30 · Oct 18, 2011

Will be a extra crop to try out sog type method

ELWOOD73 · Oct 18, 2011

hellraizer30 said:
Will be a extra crop to try out sog type method

Oh ok I see experimenting is how stuff gets figured out! I sent you a pm instead of hijacking your thread on a question I had .

hellraizer30 · Oct 18, 2011

Its cool its a open thread il answer the best i can

hellraizer30 · Oct 18, 2011

Thanks elwood

For your area this would be what i would do!

For veg use a 4x8 tent with x2 flood tables 3x4s in it
The rest of the room is bloom put x2 flood table on
Each side of the room so you have a walkway down
The middle! Total flood tables x4 each is 4x4 and on its own
Res. Each table has 11 plants x6 tables =66 +4 mothers
= 70 and go one week of veg to let them fill out a bit.

Al b fuct style grow just with one week of veg
You should get a lb every 2weeks with this

InsaneMJ · Oct 18, 2011

Since I wasn't exactly sure what Al B Fuct. is I decided to look it up.
I figured not everyone is exactly sure what the Al B fun. is, so I thought I'd post a link. I'm almost 100% sure that this is what your talking about thou

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/6592-get-harvest-every-2-weeks.html

His method is pretty good in my opinion, just a lot of work consistantly. In some people's case it's neccessary, because they need the constant weight. IMO a perpetual harvest is where its at lol, but thats if your capable of a large grow

-I.MJ

ELWOOD73 · Oct 18, 2011

Yep it looks to me as being the best style SOG or AL B Fuct perpetual harvest is the way to go for a medical grow

MrStickyScissors · Oct 18, 2011

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lights out pics or allways the best. with a flash too lol looking very nice. can I get a shot of the setup the buckets in action

hellraizer30 · Oct 18, 2011

MrStickyScissors said:
lights out pics or allways the best. with a flash too lol looking very nice. can I get a shot of the setup the buckets in action

Il try to dig some up

hornedfrog2000 · Oct 18, 2011

Hey HR. I'm going to run Chronic from serious seeds in my single cola sog with a 600 hps. How tall do you think I could let the clones get before I switch to 12/12? I was thinking a foot at most, because there will be 4 clones in a square foot. The Chronic pheno I have grows one solid cola, and very little side branching. I'm hoping to get 1 oz per plant, but would be ok with 1/2 oz per. I'm running 36 clones in the 3x3 flood table.

hellraizer30 · Oct 18, 2011

hornedfrog2000 said:
Hey HR. I'm going to run Chronic from serious seeds in my single cola sog with a 600 hps. How tall do you think I could let the clones get before I switch to 12/12? I was thinking a foot at most, because there will be 4 clones in a square foot. The Chronic pheno I have grows one solid cola, and very little side branching. I'm hoping to get 1 oz per plant, but would be ok with 1/2 oz per. I'm running 36 clones in the 3x3 flood table.

I wouldnt veg past a week for a al b style sog grow i thing 8 to 10in max

hornedfrog2000 · Oct 18, 2011

Ok, cool. My clones are very small at this point so I'll try to keep them around 8-10" I'm more worried about light penetration, and mold with the chronic. Hope to god these clones take with no issue this time too...

hellraizer30 · Oct 18, 2011

Well im rooting for yah hope all goes as planned

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