mr sunshine
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Peg 200 and 300 is the reason ejmix holds...
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EJ Mix Ratio
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justugh
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the peg works well with the CBD oils mixxed with flavor .....
mr sunshine
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Peg 200 and 300 is what keeps the ej mix solution and the concentrate combined. .there's other stuff in it but those 2 are what keeps it from separating.
justugh
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then what is the point of having the peg400 in there if the 200 and 300 is the ones that do the job
SnapsProvolone
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The number following the PEG has to do with the molecular weight. The 200, 300 and 400 are all light weight PEG molecules in comparison to the heavier PEG grades like PEG 10000
mr sunshine
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200 and 300 are to thin to use alone.
BiggieNuggz
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Great thread. I use PEG400 and PG for my mix. Tried just the PEG400 and it had a medical/sanitary or just kind of an "off" flavor with almost no flavor of the concentrate. Then I bought some PG and that's all it took to smooth it out. It almost completely takes away the "off" flavor of the PEG400 and allows the flavor of the concentrate to come through. I've been heating and mixing 2ml PEG400 and 1ml PG to a gram of shatter with great success. It takes me a couple of weeks to vape that amount. I know, compared to many I'm on the low end of "liqweed" consumption. Anyway over those 2 weeks slowly disepnsing it from a 10ml plastic squeeze bottle with a needle tip I notice no seperation. Sure I give it a good many shakes before I fill my .5ml cartridge but I seems to infuse nicely after heating. My next batch I'm going to flip the ratio and heat 2ml PG and 1ml PEG400 with a gram of shatter. I'm confident it will still stay mixed/infused over the 2 weeks time I consume it.
Btw this is my vape cartridge style of choice lately. I've tried several different clearos, cartos and tanks (currently liking the Kanger eVod Glass) but these little guys are a direct gravity/vacuum feed onto the atomizer coil and do a great job at transferring the flavor of the final mix. They're not fancy, they just work.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xo+pen+vape+cartridge&_nkw=o+pen+vape+cartridge&_sacat=0
Btw this is my vape cartridge style of choice lately. I've tried several different clearos, cartos and tanks (currently liking the Kanger eVod Glass) but these little guys are a direct gravity/vacuum feed onto the atomizer coil and do a great job at transferring the flavor of the final mix. They're not fancy, they just work.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xo+pen+vape+cartridge&_nkw=o+pen+vape+cartridge&_sacat=0
to answer the op, I have used ejmix, 1:1:3 ejmix,bho,plain pg or random 0 nicotine ejuice, with no seperation so you certainly can dilute an ejmix/bho mix with pg or 0 nicotine ejuice without it seperating, 1ml:1g:3ml is as far as i have pushed it though. i see no reason to use anymore than 1ml pf ejmix per g of bho, that is plenty to dissolve it to liquid, then adding more pg should not cause it to seperate especialy if it was winterized and cured properly. If you are worried try adding 1 ml of pg at a time and watch for seperation, if it does occur stop adding pg and add a little more ejmix,
vitamin_green_inc
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So this is a great way to conserve your oil correct? It seems like it would stretch 1 gram of Qwiso much further than just smoking it, and you can do it on the go? How many "hits," does one gram of bho at the 2:1:1 ration last you? Any further updates here? New techs?
jondamon
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I made 1.5g of QWISO and dissolved into 9ml of PG.
IT takes around 7-10 good vapes in order to feel the effects as if it were a joint.
I made my first "real" batch before Xmas and still have some left.
A friend had a fill up of my mix in his Kangertech EVOD 1.6ml tank and it lasted him 2 evenings vaping only the mix and not having any other form of weed.
He said that the high was also very similar to a joint.
That's at 6:1 pg:qwiso.
Mine hasn't seperated at all using only PG but is quite throaty on the inhale and exhale.
I used a warm oil bath to partially decarb my QWISO and purge any remaining alcohol out and then mixed in the PG and kept it in the bath for around 5-10mins until fully dissolved.
I don't solely use concentrates but I don't smoke joints any more as I've stopped using tobacco.
So for me it's great to be able to use a multitude of different things in order to get trollied. Lol.
I use a CLOUPOR CLOUTANK M3 attachment, a VAPEORSMOKE pocket vaporiser, a pipe, a bong and also my vape juice.
Next round of QWISO that I've set aside 28g of bud for Im using PEG400 and the warm oil bath again but this time it will be a 2:1 Pg:QWISO.
That way if it needs any more pg etc I can dilute slightly.
I'm hoping to achieve a 1 hit and quit kind of vape. Lol.
J
vitamin_green_inc
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Nice, thanks! I have never owned an w-cig....so any tips or personal experience on which would be a good one to purchase? I wouldn't mind be able to take this on the go and having a little tube for the night full of the THC juice and one full of nicotine juice lol. Completely cut out my drunken chain smoking!
GrowinDad
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I have been at a bar, sitting at a table with a cop, puffing my e-juice and he had no idea. For the record, didn't know he was a cop at the time 
I go 2-2.5 parts PG per part oil. I usually take 3-4 hits.
I've also noticed that a lot of people I know will partake of my e-juice, but won't smoke. So now I am the hit of the neighborhood...
I go 2-2.5 parts PG per part oil. I usually take 3-4 hits.
I've also noticed that a lot of people I know will partake of my e-juice, but won't smoke. So now I am the hit of the neighborhood...
jondamon
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I make my own juices too.
My personal preference for gear is
Innokin MVP2.0
Aspire Nautilus
The simplest gear you can get would be
Ego c twist 1100mah
With something like a KANGERTECH mini protank 3.
As for NIC juice.
If you have a prefered flavour then buy the concentrate form.
Then Some pharma grade propylene glycol and some vegetable glycerin.
Then you'll need some base NIC fluid in either pg or VG.
Search for an eJuice calculator.
Add your base nicotine level. They come in 6/12/18/24/36/54/72 mg/ml
Add your target nicotine level.
How much flavouring you want into your mix and then measure with syringes etc.
Plenty of youtube DIY mixing vids etc out there.
I've been mixing since Oct'14 and my prefered all day vape is SNAKE BLOOD.
It's a mix of coconut, strawberry and Bavarian cream.
J
vitamin_green_inc
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Perfect, I think I'm going to start out with the simple one lol, it's a pretty big investment without ever having tried them before. Thanks so much for the exact wording!
GrowinDad
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My opinion, you need a decent battery. I used to use a cheap e-go and no comparison to a battery I can crank up to a higher wattage. I like my protank minis for oil. And nice because they only hold about .75 ml. (guess). I vape my nic juices out of the cheap plastic SMOK tanks because I have one for so many flavors and they work pretty well as well. I guess my point is that I think any bottom coil tank will work but you can't get away with a cheap battery.
That Snake Blood sounds great.
Jondamon and I have debated on this before so all in good fun, but from my experience any VG is a no-no in a THC juice. Maybe it is the oil bath that makes the difference as I have never done one. But from the old coffee warmer method, anytime I let VG touch it, it separates. As a matter of fact, yesterday I did manage to syringe out the VG from one test, add some EJ Mix and PG to the oil, and get it to stabilize. It definitely did retain some of the taste of the tropical banana flavor in the VG juice.
That Snake Blood sounds great.
Jondamon and I have debated on this before so all in good fun, but from my experience any VG is a no-no in a THC juice. Maybe it is the oil bath that makes the difference as I have never done one. But from the old coffee warmer method, anytime I let VG touch it, it separates. As a matter of fact, yesterday I did manage to syringe out the VG from one test, add some EJ Mix and PG to the oil, and get it to stabilize. It definitely did retain some of the taste of the tropical banana flavor in the VG juice.
jondamon
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The VG comment was purely about NIC juice.
But I've found adding VG to a fully cooked (cooled not cooked lol) PG mix does seem to hold in solution better.
It DEFINATELY seperated though but a quick shake made it combine again.
Pic attached of the recipe I use for snake blood.
Using all TPA/TFA flavours.
Another good flavour is
14% bilberry
6% raspberry.
I call it raspberry blues.
Get yourself on
Www.e-liquid-recipes.com.
You can add your flavour stock into your profile and choose what can I make it will give you a list of recipes based on your flavours you have.
J
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vitamin_green_inc
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Looks so gangster lol. So the battery is all important then, but both of you seem to agree the protech minis are good enough? Thanks so much y'all, I really have some motivation to extract this trim I have now!
jondamon
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The stick style batteries like egos are ok. My wife uses a small stick battery but she only vapes tobacco flavours. They put out 3.7v constantly.
The better batteries are adjustable.
The one pictures of mine allows a selectable voltage from 3.3-5.0v but also allows wattage to be controlled from 6.0-11w.
When using a concentrate THC juice they work better at higher voltages/wattages.
With NIC juices you get different intensities of flavours at different v/w's.
The battery I use lasts me around 2-3 days of vaping all day and it's rated at 2600mah. My wife's battery is a 650mah and lasts Her vaping for an evening (roughly)
The kangers are good little tanks for THC juice.
SNAPSPROVOLONE uses an ASPIRE NAUTILUS for THC juice like mine pictured.
I started with the 1100 ego twist as I mentioned earlier. It's variable voltage between 3.3-4.8v by twisting the base on the stick battery.
It work well for me.
It can be as cheap or expensive as you want it to get.
My current eCig cost me around £52 which is about $75.
J