Rob Roy
Well-Known Member
Indeed, fuck coercive government AND fuck coercive people. Those ideals are not Utopian, they're the underpinning of a free society. Without them there is no real freedom, only a hollow one that falls far short and relies on the redefinition of words to ensure the present paradigm of control.and thus you crash into the brick wall of utopianism, which fails every time it is attempted because IT DOES NOT WORK.
in a perfect world with perfect people, sure, maximum liberty, fuck government, lets all do what we love and shit will magically work out!
it never works.
Things do not magically work out when authority is based on consenting agreements any more than they do when authority is presumed to rest solely in the hands of the state. However, instituting a coercive government, because we "might" have to deal with some coercive people from time to time fails the logic test. The coercion is not a given, it is a variable, variables CAN change. I know we bust each others balls, but I don't think I'm crashing into the wall of Utopianism. I think you are taking an idea out of context, and saying coercive government is the best there will ever be, not seeing the logic of how self defeating that is when measured against history. Burn any witches lately?