First New Yorker Arrested over new laws - decorated veteran 5 felonies for empty mags

Harrekin

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if they care enough about it then the first person to promise to repeal it would be voted in with little contest

yes old laws dont always go away but thats not proof against this
Go back to pumping gas dude, the adults are talking and apparently you don't understand what they're talking about.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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how logical is it to plan for unforeseeable events . . . . .

oh ya its not

thats why they refer to it as parnoid delusional

gov has nothing to gain by disarming us . . . .so they wont
 

Canna Sylvan

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as it was under an existing tested law it seems the courts do consider it just

appealing to my emotion whether its thru his service, the fact he's wounded or whether i feel unloaded illegal mags are reason enough for punishment is neither here nor there
Were slave laws just? So abolitionists like Samuel Clemens were just attention whores appealing to emotion?
 

Canna Sylvan

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cannabis doesnt kill anyone

the rifle that the magazine is an important component of is designed to kill people and the people of that state decided they wanted it banned

comparing the 2 is weak sauce argument that your trying to hard for it to fit
Bullshit! Tell that to all the family members who lost their loved ones to the "enraged negro" jazz musicians.
 

Canna Sylvan

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I don't think it's possible to bludgeon some one to death with an empty magazine. Too flimsy and not heavy enough. Even a full magazine would break into pieces at the first blow. No, empty magazines are just not effective weapons.
What if this asshole vet didn't take care of his mags. Then some poor kid playing with them pinches himself on the spring. He could get tetanus and die! Think of the children, bro.
 

Harrekin

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your petty insults have no power over me boy

troll harder with your partisan politics
Partisan politics?

I just think it's retarded that the US Govt paid hundreds of thousands of dollars training and paying a guy to take lives proficiently, and then upon his return home as a veteran, he's arrested cos his magazines are "too big".

If you can't see the stupid in that, you're not worth the keystrokes.

How much is gas? You may aswell fill the tank.
 

kelly4

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I have ginjawarrior on ignore, so I can't see what he is saying. I can only see quotes of his. I have a question.

Is ginjawarrior defending the arrest and jailtime of people who break any law just because the law is written?

Sounds like ginjawarrior hates pot growers...

I knew I made the correct decision to ignore him.
 

ginwilly

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lol your nothing but one big appeal to emotion canna

normally its frothy lip speckly rage
the entire gun control debate was spawned on emotion.

You are arguing based on what you "feel" is right. We have stats and history to back up our claims, you have emotion and feelings. Then you accuse us of using emotion to get our points across. Damn right, facts, logic and history aren't working, might as well appeal to your senses.
 

ginjawarrior

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Partisan politics?

I just think it's retarded that the US Govt paid hundreds of thousands of dollars training and paying a guy to take lives proficiently, and then upon his return home as a veteran, he's arrested cos his magazines are "too big".

If you can't see the stupid in that, you're not worth the keystrokes.

How much is gas? You may aswell fill the tank.
he's also not allowed grenades or tanks

he was job out there was to kill people

now that its no longer his job he has no need for more efficient ways to kill people does he?


you'l never make a proper troll with such a lacking repertoire

rabid insults are easy to ignore
 

ginjawarrior

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the entire gun control debate was spawned on emotion.

You are arguing based on what you "feel" is right. We have stats and history to back up our claims, you have emotion and feelings. Then you accuse us of using emotion to get our points across. Damn right, facts, logic and history aren't working, might as well appeal to your senses.
what i feel is right?

no im arguing that the laws in NYC banned the magazines

dont forget this whole thread was started as an attack on the "new laws" now you guys cant howl at their injustice your all desperatly grabbing onto something to hate

there is nothing new about these laws or this "vets" circumstance

its a pretty non issue story
 

ginwilly

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Don't know about grenades but he can have a tank. They are not illegal to own.

I used to own a 71' Chrysler Newport, all that thing was missing was the gun.
 

ginjawarrior

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Don't know about grenades but he can have a tank. They are not illegal to own.

I used to own a 71' Chrysler Newport, all that thing was missing was the gun.
a tank without a gun is like a man who cant keep an errection ;)

people here are arguing that if he was trained to use a gun in army he should have free range to use gun when he gets home

not only would that set up a 2 tier society

but when does it stop? should he be allowed a fully armed abrams tank if that was his tool of war and he has the money for it?

or a fully kitted out apache helicopter if thats what he flew and has the money?
 

deprave

New Member
I don't think it's possible to bludgeon some one to death with an empty magazine. Too flimsy and not heavy enough. Even a full magazine would break into pieces at the first blow. No, empty magazines are just not effective weapons.
Assuming they are metal you could sharpen one and then it could potentialy be used as a shiv
 

deprave

New Member
right according to this nathan haddads legal fund page

http://www.gofundme.com/1tkukc#description

he's received

$20,665 raised by 559 people in 22 days.

now thats a nice tidy sum but can anyone see the problem with the time period?

22 days? he was arrested on the 6th of jan

the new law was signed into life on the 15th.....


fuck me you guys are gullible
I would probably think the same thing and I did initially but then I realized that 30 rnd magazines WERE NOT ILLEGAL PRIOR TO THIS LAW, it was in SOME CITYS depending on manufactured date but thats an unconsitutional law, an unconstitutional law is not a law. These mags he had were also "Pre-Ban" allegedly which means they would not be in violation of those laws if its true. However one source says the mags were stamped with "“Restricted. For military use only.” which would mean they aren't pre-ban.
 

ginjawarrior

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I would probably think the same thing and I did initially but then I realized that 30 rnd magazines WERE NOT ILLEGAL PRIOR TO THIS LAW, it was in SOME CITYS depending on manufactured date but thats an unconsitutional law, an unconstitutional law is not a law. These mags he had were also "Pre-Ban" allegedly which means they would not be in violation of those laws if its true. However one source says the mags were stamped with "“Restricted. For military use only.” which would mean they aren't pre-ban.
lol he certainly isnt being done for the laws signed on the 15th

if it was the case he wouldnt even need a defence fund past what it costs to buy a big calender and 2 differing color marker pens one to show the arrest date and the second to mark when the law was signed 15 days later
 

canndo

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He was trusted with incredibly powerful weapons of war whilst in the service, the most advanced military technology on the planet...finishes his service, can't have metal boxes with a spring and a runner in it.

Certainly an epic way to honour your heroes.

God bless America, land of the free.

Had this man been found to have in his posession a set of works - or "drug paraphernalia", would the result have been any different? The laws consider enabling devices as dangerous as the activity those devices enable.


For better or worse - the law does not nor should it take into account a man's history or his abilities.

What is happening here is identical to those who parade children who have been shot at around in order to make their case for gun control. If emotionalism shouldn't be condoned in that situation then it should not be in this one.
 
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