Florida is set to arm teachers

Should teachers have weapons in their classrooms?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 21.4%

  • No

    Votes: 22 78.6%
  • Total voters
    28
Fogdog

Fogdog

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LEDandCoffee said:
69% dont, but 66% arent against guns. That leaves 34% of "you people"
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Do you remember when I said:
Fogdog said:
Umm. Can't you sound out the words?

Households that don't own a gun = 69%

I know that you can't remember things for very long. Actually your memory is very very short term. So, I'll help you out with your handicap.

There have been a lot of mass shootings lately. Public sentiment is shifting away from supporting practically unregulated gun ownership. That 69% of non-gun owning households is called a super majority. The poll you cited was 2017. Remember when I said public sentiment is shifting away from supporting practically unregulated gun ownership? Maybe you forgot but this is the year 2018 and since that poll was taken in 2017, we've had a lot of mass shootings and public sentiment is shifting.

I know you can't remember things for very long, so I expect I'll just repeat this all to you very soon.
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This is what is meant by "sentiment is shifting":


CNN Poll: Seven in 10 favor tighter gun laws in wake of Parkland shooting
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/25/politics/cnn-poll-gun-control-support-climbs/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN)Support for stricter gun laws has spiked to the highest level since 1993, and almost two-thirds say government and society can take action to prevent future mass shootings, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

The findings suggest the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, has shifted public opinion on gun laws in a way other recent mass shootings have not.
Overall, 70% now say they back stricter gun laws, up from 52% who said so in an October poll not long after a mass shooting in Las Vegas killed 58 people. Just 27% oppose stricter laws. Support for stronger gun laws has not been that high in CNN polling since a December 1993 survey conducted just after the Brady Bill was signed into law.
 
LEDandCoffee

LEDandCoffee

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Dude, this will be the 3rd time now I've said this. 7 out of 10 favor tighter gun laws. What is your point? Tighter gun laws can mean a multitude of things.

Back to MY point. 66% of people either own a gun, or are not against owning them. Can you wrap your head around this yet?

You seem to only see what you want to see when it comes to these things. Tunnel vision is real
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

Well-Known Member
Fogdog said:
On average, guns don't make people safer. Pretty easy to look at gun safety statistics to be able to predict that more people will be hurt from gun accidents than protected by an armed teacher during a mass shooting event. Your empathy is laudable but arming teachers is an emotional rather than rational response.

But hey, the NRA wins. More guns sold.
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Some school districts around the country are allowing teachers to arm themselves. The FASTER program just trained their first class of 24 teachers last year in Colorado based on a 5 year old pilot program in another state. So I guess we will see how that goes. It depends on state laws and school district policy as to where teacher's can carry. K-12 teachers in my school district cannot carry.
 
potroastV2

potroastV2

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Fogdog said:
Do you remember when I said:

This is what is meant by "sentiment is shifting":

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You can repeat this many more times and it won't make any impact on gun nuts who must compensate for their low IQ. They will stomp their feet and ignore it.

They've been ignoring the obvious for their entire adult lives. (admittedly just a few years for some of these morons)

So save your typing fingers for rolling joints! :lol:


:mrgreen:
 
LEDandCoffee

LEDandCoffee

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rollitup said:
You can repeat this many more times and it won't make any impact on gun nuts who must compensate for their low IQ. They will stomp their feet and ignore it.

They've been ignoring the obvious for their entire adult lives. (admittedly just a few years for some of these morons)

So save your typing fingers for rolling joints! :lol:


:mrgreen:
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Lol.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Sour Wreck said:
no, how about we stop defunding the mentally ill like reagan did. most of those people are in prison being taken care of now.

http://www.povertyinsights.org/2013/10/14/did-reagans-crazy-mental-health-policies-cause-todays-homelessness/

or how about trump revoking obama's gun checks for the mentally ill

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/politics/trump-gun-legislation-mental-health/index.html


you republicans have ISSUES !!!!!!
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How about GW Bush allowing assault weapons to be sold again in his 1st term in office.

AR-15s were one of 18 semi automatic weapons banned under a 1994 law that expired in 2004 despite broad public support and a drop in gun fatalities, and what did Bush do?

Allow them to be sold again, after sucking NRA dick.

Just keep voting GOP, the Death industry loves you.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
Bugeye said:
My daughter's in high school and at her last lock-down drill, the instructor said he would use a baseball bat to try and stop a shooter from entering the room (that none of them could escape from). I empathize with teacher's that would like a little better defense than a baseball bat.
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They could simply equip the students with body armor and nunchucks.
That might work, right?
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Sour Wreck said:
who'd you vote for? if it wasn't hillary, you're complicit in trumps election.
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i don't understand this logic.. that's not how the electoral college works.. i live in a state that votes blue in almost every presidential election for a long time now... i didn't vote for hillary, and i didn't vote for donald, and i knew that my doing so wasn't going to effect her chance of winning or his chance of winning as i said, my state always goes blue almost always..
so unless you happen to live in a swing state, some where that the results of the voting aren't predetermined and can flip from red to blue at a whim, voting or not voting for someone has really not much effect on the result, and my not voting for hillary had nothing to do with trump getting elected..
if i lived in texas i i didn't vote for trump and hillary won, would you still be saying that i helped get hillary elected even though my state went red, like it almost always does?
sorry, i just don't buy into if you didn't vote for a you're the reason b won, not when winner takes all with the electoral college, and not unless you happen to life in a swing state, or one of the few states that isn't winner takes all , like maine for example..
 
Sour Wreck

Sour Wreck

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racerboy71 said:
i don't understand this logic.. that's not how the electoral college works.. i live in a state that votes blue in almost every presidential election for a long time now... i didn't vote for hillary, and i didn't vote for donald, and i knew that my doing so wasn't going to effect her chance of winning or his chance of winning as i said, my state always goes blue almost always..
so unless you happen to live in a swing state, some where that the results of the voting aren't predetermined and can flip from red to blue at a whim, voting or not voting for someone has really not much effect on the result, and my not voting for hillary had nothing to do with trump getting elected..
if i lived in texas i i didn't vote for trump and hillary won, would you still be saying that i helped get hillary elected even though my state went red, like it almost always does?
sorry, i just don't buy into if you didn't vote for a you're the reason b won, not when winner takes all with the electoral college, and not unless you happen to life in a swing state, or one of the few states that isn't winner takes all , like maine for example..
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it doesn't work with the electoral college unless you are in a competitive state.

however, i have shit to throw at anybody who remotely supports trump. and knew their candidate or NO candidate had no chance of keeping dickhead out of washington.

if you don't hate trump at this point, i have serious fucking issues with you
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
LEDandCoffee said:
Dude, this will be the 3rd time now I've said this. 7 out of 10 favor tighter gun laws. What is your point? Tighter gun laws can mean a multitude of things.

Back to MY point. 66% of people either own a gun, or are not against owning them. Can you wrap your head around this yet?

You seem to only see what you want to see when it comes to these things. Tunnel vision is real
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So, tell me

What new gun laws did you say you would support?
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Sour Wreck said:
it doesn't work with the electoral college unless you are in a competitive state.

however, i have shit to throw at anybody who remotely supports trump. and knew their candidate or NO candidate had no chance of keeping dickhead out of washington.

if you don't hate trump at this point, i have serious fucking issues with you
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seems you and i are on the same page there.. :)
 
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