For all the FOX, Beck, Limbaugh, Conservative Haters.

alright....

it's about journalism, about investigating your story. the first guy WORKED at fox news

these people knew who he was, it was a blatant attempt at tarnishing him as a person....

I cannot believe we show you definitive proof of how these people distort reality, and you fail to see it....

no wait, you can see it, you're obviously not blind...

you fail to admit when you are wrong. PERIOD. just man-up....

if MSNBC showed a photoshopped bush photo that yellowed his teeth and shit, you'd have a field day and I would wave a white flag.... this is ridiculous....

The truth hurts.

redivider said:

you fail to admit when you are wrong. PERIOD. just man-up....

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That right there is the truth. If you knew Rick from other threads, you'd of concluded that a long time ago...

Like I always say, it's ok to be wrong about something, but not ok to consistently be wrong about something after you're corrected over and over again. Who would rather keep a wrong piece of information instead of just admit they're wrong and get the correct information? I really don't get it, do they see it as a sign of weakness or something...?

simple minded people...these the same people who show up at the teabagger rally clueless to whats really going on in the world..Obama took my freedom..Obama a socialist nazi muslim ( wtf is that ).... Obama born in kenya...Obama lost the Olympics..... Obama the Messiah ....Obama fascist....Obama elite ....Obama likes Czars....Obama don't like white people..lol...Damn Obama sure is a lot of people...backwoods, redneck, incest having, uneducated, stupid teabaggers...Make America look real ignorant...Heck disagree with the man with his policy, but please stop with the nonsense....

londonfog said:

simple minded people...these the same people who show up at the teabagger rally clueless to whats really going on in the world..Obama took my freedom..Obama a socialist nazi muslim ( wtf is that ).... Obama born in kenya...Obama lost the Olympics..... Obama the Messiah ....Obama fascist....Obama elite ....Obama likes Czars....Obama don't like white people..lol...Damn Obama sure is a lot of people...backwoods, redneck, incest having, uneducated, stupid teabaggers...Make America look real ignorant...Heck disagree with the man with his policy, but please stop with the nonsense....

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My favorite is the "President Obama is a racist!". lol. Hes half white, who's he supposed to be racist against? Himself and his mother!? If only there were some help for all these sheeple with severe cases of Obama Derangement Syndrome, but sadly for them, there is no cure for stupidity.

It still makes me shake my head in disgust that so many are still falling for the propaganda outlets shit, and religious fear hate crap WAKE THE FUCK UP!! It's totally obvious that they don't know how spirituality works and the presidential office is no more than a thrown for show. It's the same non law abiding band of criminals in charge no matter who is in the office and they use your values which they helped you form to manipulate you so you will oppress yourselfs stupid stupid. I should stay away from this I'm just feeding into it so I'm just as stupid and would rather not give more power to it.

redivider said:

alright....

it's about journalism, about investigating your story. the first guy WORKED at fox news

these people knew who he was, it was a blatant attempt at tarnishing him as a person....

I cannot believe we show you definitive proof of how these people distort reality, and you fail to see it....

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If you think that is definitive proof you clearly don't know what proof is. It is MORE likely that the video you posted is the one that altered the image - not Fox.

Fact is, in the immediate aftermath of the Fort Hood murders people flooded away from the other networks to Fox News because they know it is where they are going to get the real story instead of the watered down, blame America bullshit the other channels put out.

I know you kids love to rebel against us grown-ups but the fact is Fox is the #1 cable news channel and it is CRUSHING the competition. And no, it isn't because all of America can't think for themselves, it's because thankfully most Americans still have their heads on straight.

Go flip through the channels and see what other networks are saying about the MUSLIM who shot up Fort Hood. They are trying to blame the Army claiming they have inadequate means of dealing with post traumatic stress - despite the fact that they guy never saw combat. They are looking for every bullshit cause they can find in order to avoid the issue of Islam. Of course Fox, being a real news agency, began discussing it immediately.

Now who is biased, the guys who ignore and avoid the fact that the guy was a Muslim and possibly demonstrating radical views or those who open the floor to discussion of this obvious fact?

Sure, ignore the guy's Muslim views and discuss how the Army may be at fault - that is objective journalism. Yep, in a pig's eye.

You pretty much re-stated the two bullshit arguments I always hear defending faux news:
-They're really popular, so they must be right/honest... I still don't get the logic.
-The other stations are biased... This DOES NOT prove that fox isn't too! The main ones all are. Anyone swallowing everything coming out of fox, cnn, etc. and thinking "my station is honest, the ones that don't lean in my direction are liars" is a fool. (I'm looking at you, Rick).

I haven't see Ft. Hood coverage on TV at all (just radio), so you may be right about fox being more honest in this case. That doesn't negate other times when fox was leaning hard to the right in their reporting, and being biased and dishonest/misleading to push their agenda.

not sure but does one side of debate validate the other so that they will have shit to debate? maybe its controvercialism not jounalism that they want. not united any more just divided opinionated Bullshit. or maybe they just need a place to advertise for all there customers what ever it is they want to accomplish its not likely to be good for us and i hope i dont buy it but i may have without even knowing it. ive done that befor

Cloud City said:

My favorite is the "President Obama is a racist!". lol. Hes half white, who's he supposed to be racist against? Himself and his mother!? If only there were some help for all these sheeple with severe cases of Obama Derangement Syndrome, but sadly for them, there is no cure for stupidity.

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Well remember, HITLER was half jew!

The evidence is undeniable now.

Obama is a muslim/kenyan/socialist/communist/fascist/marxist/terrorist/antichrist/racist/hitler/stalin/mussolini

Hell remember during the 08 election when the biggest story to the republicans

was that Obama was a terrorist? They thought he was a motherfucking terrorist.

haha poor sheeple.

Leothwyn said:

You pretty much re-stated the two bullshit arguments I always hear defending faux news:
-They're really popular, so they must be right/honest... I still don't get the logic.
-The other stations are biased... This DOES NOT prove that fox isn't too! The main ones all are. Anyone swallowing everything coming out of fox, cnn, etc. and thinking "my station is honest, the ones that don't lean in my direction are liars" is a fool. (I'm looking at you, Rick).

I haven't see Ft. Hood coverage on TV at all (just radio), so you may be right about fox being more honest in this case. That doesn't negate other times when fox was leaning hard to the right in their reporting, and being biased and dishonest/misleading to push their agenda.

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Absolutely correct. Especially with regards to that first point. The popularity one. Fox viewers LOVE to spit that one out as if it demands authority!! But lets take a look... I personally watch Fox, I couldn't be further from the kind of right Fox pushes for, yet I tune in. Why? You ever ask yourself that one Rick? You ever ask yourself how many other people just like me tune in to see the retarded bullshit coming out of Fox? ... and you think that somehow supports the position of authority and popularity, because as every statistic shows, people are idiots, and the more people you have, yep, you guessed it, the more idiots there will be. The numbers mean nothing man, nothing at all. From your side you view it as dominance, obviously the number one news station would have the most viewers right? But what you're missing is why those viewers are tuning in. Fox also pushes this same shit, so it doesn't surprise me that you would too, they take the exact same position too, the position of authority and perceived dominance, then spit it down the tubes so you guys can claim the same thing... But from our side, you guys look like a bunch of little babies crying "my bike is the best on the block because it's got the coolest streamers coming out of the handlebars!" - missing entirely that that doesn't add ANYTHING to the bycicles function...

RickWhite said:

If you think that is definitive proof you clearly don't know what proof is. It is MORE likely that the video you posted is the one that altered the image - not Fox.

Fact is, in the immediate aftermath of the Fort Hood murders people flooded away from the other networks to Fox News because they know it is where they are going to get the real story instead of the watered down, blame America bullshit the other channels put out.

I know you kids love to rebel against us grown-ups but the fact is Fox is the #1 cable news channel and it is CRUSHING the competition. And no, it isn't because all of America can't think for themselves, it's because thankfully most Americans still have their heads on straight.

Go flip through the channels and see what other networks are saying about the MUSLIM who shot up Fort Hood. They are trying to blame the Army claiming they have inadequate means of dealing with post traumatic stress - despite the fact that they guy never saw combat. They are looking for every bullshit cause they can find in order to avoid the issue of Islam. Of course Fox, being a real news agency, began discussing it immediately.

Now who is biased, the guys who ignore and avoid the fact that the guy was a Muslim and possibly demonstrating radical views or those who open the floor to discussion of this obvious fact?

Sure, ignore the guy's Muslim views and discuss how the Army may be at fault - that is objective journalism. Yep, in a pig's eye.

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I love how Fox has been spinning the story to make it seem as if EVERY Muslim is responsible for this single act. Seriously Rick, the way they've been covering this story is outrageously offensive to Muslim Americans. Could you imagine the same story being covered had it been a white Christian?? Do you think they'd be blaming Christianity like they are Islam? Would that be fair for all the rest of the nonviolent Christians in America who live their lives day by day totally peaceful?

First time I turned it on Fox after this happened the headline read "Maj. (forgot the name) had deep Islamic convictions"

That's exactly what they're doing at Fox right now. They're trying to paint EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM as some scary terrorist because of this single isolated incident, having absolutely nothing to do with Islam what so ever. Basically they are saying he did this because he's Muslim, which is totally 100% incorrect information, otherwise known as a LIE, coming right from the horses mouth.

I love how Fox has been spinning the story to make it seem as if EVERY Muslim is responsible for this single act. Seriously Rick, the way they've been covering this story is outrageously offensive to Muslim Americans. Could you imagine the same story being covered had it been a white Christian?? Do you think they'd be blaming Christianity like they are Islam? Would that be fair for all the rest of the nonviolent Christians in America who live their lives day by day totally peaceful?

First time I turned it on Fox after this happened the headline read "Maj. (forgot the name) had deep Islamic convictions"

That's exactly what they're doing at Fox right now. They're trying to paint EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM as some scary terrorist because of this single isolated incident, having absolutely nothing to do with Islam what so ever. Basically they are saying he did this because he's Muslim, which is totally 100% incorrect information, otherwise known as a LIE, coming right from the horses mouth.[/QUOTE]

You are a liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nobody is doing anything close to what you claim. They have opened the floor to discussion of all the facts. In fact, O'reilly was even saying that the guy didn't appear to be a terrorist and was most likely just a guy who snapped.

But you see, you just assume that Fox is bashing Muslims without even listening to what they are saying. And you don't just assume it, you post it as fact.

You are a liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Try actually listening to what people say before making up lies.

I will admit that O'Reilly is one person there who does at least try to live up to the 'fair and balanced' line. He's clear about his political leanings, but he does seem to be pretty open minded. He's also the one of the exceptions there... most others are far from 'fair and balanced'.

RickWhite said:

I love how Fox has been spinning the story to make it seem as if EVERY Muslim is responsible for this single act. Seriously Rick, the way they've been covering this story is outrageously offensive to Muslim Americans. Could you imagine the same story being covered had it been a white Christian?? Do you think they'd be blaming Christianity like they are Islam? Would that be fair for all the rest of the nonviolent Christians in America who live their lives day by day totally peaceful?

First time I turned it on Fox after this happened the headline read "Maj. (forgot the name) had deep Islamic convictions"

That's exactly what they're doing at Fox right now. They're trying to paint EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM as some scary terrorist because of this single isolated incident, having absolutely nothing to do with Islam what so ever. Basically they are saying he did this because he's Muslim, which is totally 100% incorrect information, otherwise known as a LIE, coming right from the horses mouth.

You are a liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nobody is doing anything close to what you claim. They have opened the floor to discussion of all the facts. In fact, O'reilly was even saying that the guy didn't appear to be a terrorist and was most likely just a guy who snapped.

But you see, you just assume that Fox is bashing Muslims without even listening to what they are saying. And you don't just assume it, you post it as fact.

You are a liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Try actually listening to what people say before making up lies.

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I didn't lie about anything Rick.


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They are talking about Muslim screenings and special centers for Muslims. How is that not completely offensive?

Like I said, what if they were doing the exact same thing they're doing with Islam and the Muslim American population in the military to white Americans and Christianity?


You simply cannot or will not answer that question because you know what the answer is, you just want to be a biggot racist fuck and try to justify it because other people higher up and much more "important" than you are biggot racist fucks too.

Try to think for yourself.

Come on now padawan, do you blow your father with that mouth?

So you posted a video of a guy with the same lame ass argument as you. There was nothing wrong with the discussion he was finding fault with. Why don't you try to actually articulate an opposing point of view instead of just calling everyone who disagrees with you a racist. Doing so is a cop-out and a sign of a feeble mind.

Its Obama fault...

londonfog said:

Its Obama fault...

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You are correct.
He needs to end the war.
Then you will not have
soldiers going nuts all over the place.

BTW anyone heard yet if this guy was on anti-depresents?
They can cause mental breaks.

If they can demonize muslims they can demonize anyone.
Maybe we should chip all the muslims.
Or give them a special tatoo.
Would that make you feel safer?

RickWhite said:

There was nothing wrong with the discussion he was finding fault with. Why don't you try to actually articulate an opposing point of view instead of just calling everyone who disagrees with you a racist. Doing so is a cop-out and a sign of a feeble mind.

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Nothing wrong with special places to screen the Muslim American soldiers because they are Muslim? So there's nothing wrong with manditory religious segregation within the United States military? You really need to give that one a bit more thought...

Nothing wrong with painting all Muslims in America as terrorists or extremists because the commentators view Islam to be dangerous to their Christian views?

Again man, you dodged my question. I even bolded it and put it in red font to make sure you wouldn't miss it. I know you read it, so why didn't you answer it?

I'll ask it again;

What if this exact same thing was happening to white Americans and Christianity? Segregating the Christians for special screening because they felt Christianity was dangerous?

(if you dodge the question again you'll prove the point even better than I could if you'd simply answer it, so do what you gotta do Rick...)

You're gonna sit there and say that you wouldn't have a problem with that? Of course you would, so why can't you see that it would be a pretty big problem to any Muslim American serving their country in the military?

To you, and the audience Fox caters to, Muslim Americans are Lesser Americans. They're not equal. They don't deserve the same rights. Just like gays, just like blacks. Fox doesn't stray too far away from the "Christian morals", and it's about as fair and balanced as the fuckin' bible is.