Fucking Opiates

canndo

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$200 to GYN. She hears I don't have insurance, does an exam, says it sounds and appears etc. like endometriosis (just replied to another post this way). I asked for anything to help me get through it. She prescribed birth control pills and informed me it would take THREE WEEKS for the pain to subside. I showed her my most recent time card, told her what I'd been trying (Motrin in high doses etc.). She said, "Go to ER for pain. I can't help you. You do have a cyst too. Get that checked." I took a loan to see her and the other doctor later in the week, who told me to see a GYN... Round and round. I just want to go to work halfway functional. Only goal. Not buzzed. Just functional. Without insurance, this Russian Roulette with doctors is over for now. :( I'd go again if someone local referred me to someone she knows could help, but I think I'll be back to needing thousands for a test (without insurance) to confirm with bloodwork ruled out through process of elimination and 2 doctors agreed with. ((SIGH))

You might want to consider poppies. I know it is a different drug but people have been using poppy tea for a thousand years for "woman's trouble". at the doses you seem to be needing your money could go a long way even at the current prices.
 

tumorhead

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Tumorhead you always need to worry about supply. And eventually you have to worry about having enough to stay well if you try to have fun with meds for chronic pain. Been there, done that.
Yeah I just meant I have a doctor who's willing to give them to me, he didn't believe me for the longest time and wasted months of my time saying I had headaches, migraines, etc, eventually I got a diagnosis from a neurologist and now my general doctor was more than eager to give them to me at our last visit. I wasn't even there to talk about pain and he just walked in and announced he'd give me a narcotic, I said I wanted something low dose and he gave me the hydro 5mg. I'm sure I could say I want something else, he was offering other drugs as well (tegredol) and to up my neurontin, and was far more sympathetic.

But I've known people who were on long term morphine and it's just a bad cycle to be in. I already have non narcotics that I'm dependent on and can't miss a dose without consequences. Kinda stressful if you travel or can't get a refill. I've gone to get a refill and they were out.

As for the endometriosis, my gf had that really bad, went to planned parenthood and got an IUD put in, hasn't had it since.

The medical system sucks so bad. I have over 30k in tests recently and have been completely drained by co-pays with insurance, if I didn't have insurance I would have killed myself out of desperation. It took 7 months of progressing, debilitating, excruciating cranial pain to finally get to the neurology specialist after going to numerous doctors and an orthodontist who didn't believe me at all, one told me to go home and see if it improved. Finally the MRI showed a mass in my head and everyone finally started taking me seriously. Still 4 months at the neurologist, 30k, and they don't fucking know what it is and it's in a place they can't biopsy. My doctor has been pushing me to get 2nd and 3rd opinions at completely different medical centers because my current partial diagnosis is so rare(1 per 1 million population) nobody knows what to do.
 

MrEDuck

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Even if you have a good dr writing for you the DEA can decide he's writing to many narcotics (because apparently a pain dr shouldn't prescribe painkillers) and pull his liscence. Happened to me. I went from 4 OC80s and 3 8mg Dilaudids a day to nothing and finding a new doc was a bitch. And that's the story of how I ended up on Subutex!
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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Even if you have a good dr writing for you the DEA can decide he's writing to many narcotics (because apparently a pain dr shouldn't prescribe painkillers) and pull his liscence. Happened to me. I went from 4 OC80s and 3 8mg Dilaudids a day to nothing and finding a new doc was a bitch. And that's the story of how I ended up on Subutex!
hmm just a quick Q how long did u take that dose?? im sure this was oral too right? 4 mg bupe is pretty low for something like that. I agree tho that too much bupe is kind of a weird feeling. so maybe you have a good point. plus being poor and not affording the meds can make you want to lower your dose.

it is a huge problem that people suffer w/o insurance, where im from its a freakin epidemic. Its nearly impossible to get help in a timely manner. When GM collapsed so did we. Medical bills are outrageous, i have a hospital visit that cost me around $1700 for practically nothing. I thought my leg had a blood clot or something, the pain was crazy. I was told its sciatica w/o any tests or anything, given a naproxen script and sent right along. the DHS case workers will tell women here that u need to go get knocked up to get any assistance w/ health care (or just about anything for that matter). what a joke.

Pain clinics will certainly give you them if u have insurance, some have certain rules like no other scripts tho. i just suggest not letting them string you on with a high dose.
 

tumorhead

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Even if you have a good dr writing for you the DEA can decide he's writing to many narcotics (because apparently a pain dr shouldn't prescribe painkillers) and pull his liscence. Happened to me. I went from 4 OC80s and 3 8mg Dilaudids a day to nothing and finding a new doc was a bitch. And that's the story of how I ended up on Subutex!
Damn that sucks. I got mine from a doctor at the University of WA, and he was a tight ass for many months before offering them. I got a tumor pushing on shit in my head and it's absolute hell every waking moment. The narcs don't really help much, I have lots of nerve meds and shit but all of them combined don't do much.


hmm just a quick Q how long did u take that dose?? im sure this was oral too right? 4 mg bupe is pretty low for something like that. I agree tho that too much bupe is kind of a weird feeling. so maybe you have a good point. plus being poor and not affording the meds can make you want to lower your dose.

it is a huge problem that people suffer w/o insurance, where im from its a freakin epidemic. Its nearly impossible to get help in a timely manner. When GM collapsed so did we. Medical bills are outrageous, i have a hospital visit that cost me around $1700 for practically nothing. I thought my leg had a blood clot or something, the pain was crazy. I was told its sciatica w/o any tests or anything, given a naproxen script and sent right along. the DHS case workers will tell women here that u need to go get knocked up to get any assistance w/ health care (or just about anything for that matter). what a joke.

Pain clinics will certainly give you them if u have insurance, some have certain rules like no other scripts tho. i just suggest not letting them string you on with a high dose.
Dude, I have white collar level health insurance and I've been so fucked over. I'm 28, got a extremely rare tumor, took 10 fucking months to get a diagnosis as it just progressed worse and worse. I look normal, have all my limbs, and none of the doctors would fucking believe me for 7 months until I got an MRI image showing the problem. It didn't show up in any tests they did, blood or spinal fluid (talk about hell, get a lumbar puncture).

Bill to insurance for 1x MRI was $10,203, insurance paid $1700 and the hospital bills me for $300. Sound great until you have 20+ doctor visits over several months where you have to pay $40 just to see the neurologist. At the same time your income dries up from the physical problem fucking you over, don't qualify for any assistance because I was doing well financially, had to open a tab at the hospital to make payments towards even though I'm unemployed. Then you get dozens of small bills for all the tests done after the insurance pays what they're going to pay. Then regular MRI's to check it's size to see if it's shrinking/growing as they just randomly try different treatments.

It doesn't matter if you have $10k, $50k, or $100k in the bank and health insurance, if you get on some radiation, chemo, brain surgery or any long term treatments that require frequent imaging it's just a matter of how long until it's sucked away...

If you or a family member ever get shit like this, cash out everything you have and hide it, it can't be in your bank account, then apply for assistance. Because I own a house I don't qualify for the hospital charity, if I default on the house, they'll write off my medical bills. So fucked.

I would have already killed myself (re-roll life) if I didn't have insurance, as with "good" insurance I have to get the MRI's "pre authorized" by my insurance which takes a week. Otherwise I doubt you'd get the same MRI I got (hour long) without insurance or having several thousand bucks deposit to put down. Without the MRI nobody would believe me and I was ready to die, symptoms don't fit into their normal box, nothing shows up on fluid tests, can't emphasize enough how much it hurts to have something stretching all the nerves/muscles behind your face every second of your life, while doctors are trying to refer you to a psychologist saying you're imagining the pain. I was ready to stab my doctor, ask him to describe his pain on a scale of 1-10, and then off myself.
 

MrEDuck

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I didn't immediately go on sub and my tolerance increased before I started. For the first week or so on 8mg I was still feeling mildly sick. Then I went down to 4mg by dropping 0.5mg every two weeks.


  • It doesn't matter if you have $10k, $50k, or $100k in the bank and health insurance, if you get on some radiation, chemo, brain surgery or any long term treatments that require frequent imaging it's just a matter of time until it's sucked away...

    So true. I remember when I was healthy and had money.​




 

tumorhead

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I didn't immediately go on sub and my tolerance increased before I started. For the first week or so on 8mg I was still feeling mildly sick. Then I went down to 4mg by dropping 0.5mg every two weeks.


  • It doesn't matter if you have $10k, $50k, or $100k in the bank and health insurance, if you get on some radiation, chemo, brain surgery or any long term treatments that require frequent imaging it's just a matter of time until it's sucked away...

    So true. I remember when I was healthy and had money.

I was making mobile video games up until 2 months ago. Now I can't program anymore even though that was my true passion in life. I felt so empowered being able to create whatever the fuck I wanted, I can't express to you how much it changed my life. I've spent every free moment for the past 3 years glued to documentation, game engines, modeling programs, and haven't even opened anything in 2 months. My eye is so fucked it hurts to concentrate and read documentation, even writing forum posts takes way longer than it should just to proof read.

Now I'm a full time student with only 6 fucking classes left after going back to school at 26 and I haven't been able to work on anything for the past 6 weeks. I'm probably going to have to un-enroll if I can't get shit under control in the next week. My general doctor is pushing me to get a 2nd and 3rd opinion from completely new institutes (many more co-pays I have to save for) so I've been delaying un-enrolling in hopes these fuckers know something more than the doctors/specialists I've been to.

Right now I'm hanging drywall, last week I was vacuuming rat shit out of crawl spaces, just trying to scrape by but it all goes to co-pays. I'd be homeless if my gf wasn't paying the bills.
 
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