Hans Panel 56w triband led(65w total)>VS<Indagro 100 full spec induction(105w)+FIGHT!

I clone veg @ 14/10 In flower, I cut one half-hour every week until 10/14.

13 is probably a little long (strain dependent), I would cut back in half-hour increments

You could also give them 24 hrs of darkness

foreverflyhi said:

13/11?!?! Am I missing something? Why r u doing 13/11? Benefits?

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Several reasons

1. Saves $$$$
2. More Stealth

I have grown 20/4, 18/6, and flowered under 12/12. No discernible difference in yield/quality from the system I use now. (Learned about it on RIU)

Once you have proper spectral balance + umols, longer light times are IMHO irrelevant

They look great (as usual)...but how do they smell?? Yeah the last grow with awesome plant structure was afgoo...unfortunately, the last few times I got clones from that dispensary they came with mites. So even though the clones there look healthy, I won't be going back to them again. I have a couple other clubs I will be checking out tomorrow after work to get my new babies. New journal up tomorrow night! Keep up the good gardening, cant wait for harvest!

Nah I used the hydrogen peroxide to keep the tank clean while it was just nutes in there

3 day`s after it`s 1st application home and garden multi zyme was added as well as some super-thrive its pretty cheap on ebay and I find it an easy way to get some B vit`s into a plant but now days I normally just entrust that to some fluvic acid

Anyway 1 day later my TNC hydro fungus stuff shows I added it and a touch of fluvic and zyme to all my tanks, now all my root`s are black for sure who would think that the tnc stuff would turn everything black?

Anyway most plants look healthy bar the cutting that got put into the veg box the other day she dropped hard but hopefully will recover.

Flu is kicking my ass right now so give me a few more days for pics plus by then you might be able to see some growth as they are spaced out more now and had some trimming done to them.

So no no bleach in my culture it was just used to keep everything uninfected till my zyme and TNC hydro powder showed up

Half considering starting to ad molasses or honey to the res tanks as soon as I see flowering starting ?

hyroot said:

loooks great. Sounds like you need to relocate to the west. Into one of the free states lolololol

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I'll just wait till PA becomes a medical state/lol...............First thing is to move into a real grow room

foreverflyhi said:

13/11?!?! Am I missing something? Why r u doing 13/11? Benefits?

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IDK............wanted to give 13/11 another shot............Sat dom strains will not like this light schedule

hyroot said:

Supposedly larger yield, a few days longer to finsish too. Extra light with out causing too much stress. More closer to nature. Im giving it a try too. Flipped light schedule almost a week ago.

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Yes supposedly .............my gut still tells me that lowering it slowly down to 11/13-10/14 till finish may be better

The Dawg said:

Wow Smiply Beautiful Brother

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thank you Dawg........Oh I forgot to congratulate you on KC's new coach! I guarantee you'll have a better record next year

PetFlora said:

I clone veg @ 14/10 In flower, I cut one half-hour every week until 10/14.

13 is probably a little long (strain dependent), I would cut back in half-hour increments

You could also give them 24 hrs of darkness

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I'm thinking this too..........my problem is 14/10 MAY NOT keep all strains in the vegetative cycle............This is all so subjective anyways/ whatever works for you; go with it...

puffenuff said:

They look great (as usual)...but how do they smell?? Yeah the last grow with awesome plant structure was afgoo...unfortunately, the last few times I got clones from that dispensary they came with mites. So even though the clones there look healthy, I won't be going back to them again. I have a couple other clubs I will be checking out tomorrow after work to get my new babies. New journal up tomorrow night! Keep up the good gardening, cant wait for harvest!

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The cheese stinks and gets stuck to the walls when I move her....The anubis not nearly as smelly. I don't blame you for not going back to that disp...Ah afgoo!!! did your friend finish her out????
I'm happy for your 49ers/about time!..........what the hell are you guys gonna do about Ackers?? No confidence at all..
The Ravens are a better match for you/// LOL at the Patriots for losing even with the Referee's seemingly on their payroll

PetFlora said:

Any clones coming home should go into a quarantine space and sprayed for a few days with H2O2

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I miss clones..............good advice

THE KONASSURE said:

Nah I used the hydrogen peroxide to keep the tank clean while it was just nutes in there

3 day`s after it`s 1st application home and garden multi zyme was added as well as some super-thrive its pretty cheap on ebay and I find it an easy way to get some B vit`s into a plant but now days I normally just entrust that to some fluvic acid

Anyway 1 day later my TNC hydro fungus stuff shows I added it and a touch of fluvic and zyme to all my tanks, now all my root`s are black for sure who would think that the tnc stuff would turn everything black?

Anyway most plants look healthy bar the cutting that got put into the veg box the other day she dropped hard but hopefully will recover.

Flu is kicking my ass right now so give me a few more days for pics plus by then you might be able to see some growth as they are spaced out more now and had some trimming done to them.

So no no bleach in my culture it was just used to keep everything uninfected till my zyme and TNC hydro powder showed up

Half considering starting to ad molasses or honey to the res tanks as soon as I see flowering starting ?

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Hope you feel better........I would use molasses over honey.



ILP's cheesedream at 94 days since germination under the Hans led panel(65watts):

taking her sweet fucking time...........just gotta wait it out.

PS's anubis grils at 89 days since germination under the Indagrow 100(105watts):

....louped them and their mostly cloudy with a touch of amber, it should turn pretty fast now; couple of days max..

......64th day of 13/11..........be safe and happy growing RIU

Free scissor hash.....lol

Btw uprising and sun leaves jamaican guano combo works!!! I was out of nutes for a min. Everything yellowing. The nutes finally came in the mail. Anyway top dressed 2 tsp of each on everything. Darker green, zero yellow on batches at week 2, week 3, week 6, and week 8. Buds are bigger and bigger each batch. Good combo for now til super soil is ready. Have not figured out how often to apply yet.

PSUAGRO. said:

Hope you feel better........I would use molasses over honey.

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Looking good PSU that inda-grow is making some nice weed would you ever consider buying a 100w 3000k china made induction lamp and doing a "vs" grow to shut up people`s bitching that china made induction lamps with a "k" rating are "shit" for growing ? I mean they have to be better then 2700k cfls and 2700k cfls can grow real nice weed

Hmm Molasses huh ? Yeah I was tempted but I`ll be totally honest here a few grows back I was in soil and had no ph down I used lemon and lime juice to bring my ph down for the last 6 weeks maybe more then that

Anyway it`s a stain I`ve grown since using the same nutes and same soil but it did not taste the same it looked the same I used the exact same set up and the 1st run of it had way more lemon to it

People who tried it said "wow lots of lemon" the 1st time but the 2nd batch where i used normal everyday ph down there was almost no lemon

So I was thinking a citus Blossom honey for the last 2 or even 4 weeks of flour would be like using citrus juice and Molasses at the same time ?

Oh I have to big up TNC`s hyro fungus crap

After I was done in bed shaking with the flu all day I check ppm`s and ph of all my tanks and I was kind of shocked

Water levels have not gone down much at all but ppm`s had shot up I think I had a jump from around 1300 on one box to 1700 now my tap water once it`s sat for a day or 2 has a ppm of around 300

Anyway every tank I`d added then tnc powder too had the same jump and I can see that it and the zyme I added have been busy breaking down roots and sugars

I took some water out and fed that to some soil I have sitting around waiting for summer time to make some sunshine weed I mean free culture for my soil right ?

Then I added water a tiny bit of fulvic acid till I got the ppm`s down to where I wanted them I re-ph`d and added a touch more zyme to my flowering plants tanks.

So yeah 5 days and it`s already working away so I`m happy I went for that over great white not that great white is not a bad product it`s fucking amazing but it`s the price I can`t take

The TNC stuff was cheaper for twice the amount of powder also TNC are uk based so I`m being green as it`s not having to travel far lol

I`ll get some pics up soon still a bit sick and I`ve been working on my boiler loads trying to not have to spend out for a new one £1000 plus fitting and it`s gas so fitting a new one aint cheap.



Hopefully we get to see pics of cured buds in 4 weeks then PSU ?

Before you decide to throw out every HID, CFL, T5/T8 you own due to it's mercury (Hg) content make sure to also toss out your thermostats and pc boards (LED included) as they contain lead and arsenic. Induction uses a Hg amalgam so it reverts to a solid form when not excited. There is less Hg in an induction lamp than what you probably have in your mouth and 1/20th the amount (5mg Hg) than an HID.

The dental amalgam controversy refers to the conflicting views over the use of amalgam as a filling material mainly because it contains the element mercury. Scientists agree that dental amalgam fillings leach mercury into the mouth, but studies vary widely in the amount and whether such amount presents significant health risks. Estimations run from 1-3 micrograms (µg) per day (FDA) up to 27 µg/day (Patterson).[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP] The effects of that amount of exposure is also disputed,.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] The use of mercury in dental fillings is approved in most countries. Norway, Denmark, and Sweden have banned the use of mercury in dental amalgams over environmental concerns.[SUP][5][/SUP] Elsewhere in the world, unused dental amalgam after a treatment is subject to strict disposal protocols, again for possible environmental reasons rather than over fears of direct toxicity to humans.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_amalgam_controversy

don`t smoke detectors have radio active uranium in them ?

THE KONASSURE said:

don`t smoke detectors have radio active uranium in them ?

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Yeap,they have a small amount of a radioactive element ..
Usually is not Uranium,but the isotope americium-241 (or -243 )...

yeah but I hear a working nuclear reactor was at least once made from the elements in smoke detectors ? I mean it took 100`s or 1000`s of them but it was done plus they used to put radioactive things in everything a few years back toothpaste, paint and even radioactive condoms I`m pretty sure it`s why people in their 50`s or over all look really old lol

You also know that most grass fed cattle is checked for radiation levels as since that little melt down in Ukraine a few years back most large open grass areas contain a lot more radiation now I also know wild bore hunting is against the law in a lot of Europe due to that.

Mercury is bad for you but it`s normally far down on the list of things that will probably kill you unless your job requires you to be around it a lot.

but I would`nt blame anyone who wanted to avoid the stuff

but if you smoke a lot of weed lung cancer or going nuts is really more of a risk then mercury buy a vaporizer man

Arizer give me commission they pay me 1L of maple syrup per unit I sell...... lol

Oh I ordered a usb microscope so should be able to get some really nice bud and leaf pics up in a few weeks when it shows up.

chazbolin said:

Before you decide to throw out every HID, CFL, T5/T8 you own due to it's mercury (Hg) content make sure to also toss out your thermostats and pc boards (LED included) as they contain lead and arsenic. Induction uses a Hg amalgam so it reverts to a solid form when not excited. There is less Hg in an induction lamp than what you probably have in your mouth and 1/20th the amount (5mg Hg) than an HID.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_amalgam_controversy

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Don't let the mumbo-jumbo (paid for by those who have an agenda, whether financial or sinister) trap you. ever read about Randolph Hearst (magazine Baron) who used his influence to have hemp made illegal, so as not to wipe out his HUGE investment in timber farms?

Clinical proof exists that if amalgam is not completely removed, even the tinyest residual can continue to be the cause of dis-ease, manifesting as unknown illnesses

I had ALL my amalgams taken out decades ago.

PSUAGRO: I'm thinking this too..........my problem is 14/10 MAY NOT keep all strains in the vegetative cycle............This is all so subjective anyways/ whatever works for you; go with it...

I found the combination of > 450ppm of VEG+BLOOM (potent nutes) + 14 hours kicked off flowering. I simply lowered ppm and all plants returned to veg state

Also no other additives or preventatives are needed.

I check my roots at the end of each grow, and aside from reddish tint caused by lava rock, they are white

Well to be fair he used his papers to spread stories saying shit like "black people smoke weed and use it to make the devils music they then use weed and that evil music to get good honest white pure innocent girls to mouth fuck their huge black devil weed smoking cocks ban weed or your daughter will be rapped by a black man who smokes weed"

Down side is it only made smoking weed so much cooler cos you know your an outlaw

Also please make a big mention to the following when talking about all the lobbying that was done to pass the MJ tax credit laws in the USA

Dupont (due to the fact they spent tons of money making nylon and loads of meds that weed could do better)

Cotton company's

non hemp rope company`s

Alcohol company`s

Tobacco company`s

coffee and tea company`s

Pharmaceutical company`s who made such things as laudanum

Anyone who did not read the bill when passing it

I hear there was only one objection and that was simply someone reading the bill who had no clue what marijuana was, I`d have though that at least a few people would have had something to say about banning a cash crop I mean you could have been putting people out of work or something

The bill was to bring in Tax stamps for weed but the Federal government never issued any stamps so farmers with tons of weed were fucked

Then most of the world just seamed to follow America I`m sure that there was lots of money paid out to people for doing so if weed was legal lots of people would grow it also we`ve seen that a small shop can grow their own weed and sell it very easy weed is big money but can be run by small local shops not much in it for the big businesses if that happens and think of all the money all the other people peddling you drugs that are legal would lose.

We all know making a plant against the law is fucking stupid and what an adult wants to do with their own body is down to them not the state, sorry to rattle on about it but that and the fact that LSD was made a class A1 makes me fucking sick that and mdma too

all 3 have clear medical uses and the fact that lsd medical research was totally banned in all UN countries for something like 40 years has done nothing but slow down our understanding of one of the most powerful drugs ever made

I hear LSD can cure cluster headaches aka suicide headaches now if that is proven to be true then that`s a big deal as I`ve met a few people that suffer from them and all of them have tried to kill themself`s due to how bad the pain is when it happens

I don`t care how dangerous they say LSD is they have nuclear weapons I would rather a person try LSD to fix their problems as a final option then end their own life over something that many people say it can work for, but then again I wonder how many people suffer who could use weed and how many people have died simply because weed was not legal ?

Sorry to bang on but I`m pretty sure when it comes to weed being legal and the total bull shit behind the reasons why it is not we all give a shit right ?

PSUAGRO. said:

The cheese stinks and gets stuck to the walls when I move her....The anubis not nearly as smelly. I don't blame you for not going back to that disp...Ah afgoo!!! did your friend finish her out????
I'm happy for your 49ers/about time!..........what the hell are you guys gonna do about Ackers?? No confidence at all..
The Ravens are a better match for you/// LOL at the Patriots for losing even with the Referee's seemingly on their payroll

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Probably the best description I've read in a while. I can only imagine. Makes me remember having the same problem, hoping to run into a similar sticky situation myself here real soon. Have fun trimming that! it's going to make for some nice trim and scissor hash like the others said. No, i ended up having to chop the afgoo. it was a very sad day if i do recall. it broke my heart to do it. but their spirits still live on and maybe our paths will cross again one day.

Thank you sir, you have no idea how excited i am. it's been 18 long years of losing (but mostly winning the last few years) and slowly building (and now exploding). we have a really good team, except for god damn Ackers or as I like to call him Ray Finkle from Ace Ventura. I hate saying this, but if for some reason the 49ers lose the superbowl, it will be because of that jackass. i'm getting mad just thinking about him right now. Maybe Kaepernick can kick field goals too? ha, I was debating about getting a ticket and going to New Orleans but my lady/reality (ticket prices through the roof) shut that dream down real fast...Ravens are tough, have talent on both sides of the ball and are playing motivated right now. It should be a great game.

Keep it up brother, i'm getting jealous. Great job.

What sport are you talking about.....ultimate frisbee?

Konassure makes some very good points here. Dead on accurate in that it's not likely to be reclassified.

so if weed was legal lots of people would grow it also we`ve seen that a small shop can grow their own weed and sell it very easy weed is big money but can be run by small local shops not much in it for the big businesses if that happens and think of all the money all the other people peddling you drugs that are legal would lose.

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Yesterday's ruling reinforced that notion. Watch out MMJ states. Your laws mean nothing to the feds.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22/marijuana-class-i_n_2528323.html?utm_hp_ref=denver