Heisenbeans Genetics

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ThaDocta1

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Stiickygreen said:
^^^^^ What Pipe said^^^^.

It's interesting to see and note the different parameters we all grow under. The outdoor season here @ 7100 ft is so brief (June 1 if I'm lucky 'til Sept 30 or so) that I target "indoor" strains that finish in 56-70 days. Many of the "outdoor" strains that go 10+ weeks just won't finish here before frost/cool weather creeps in and ends...or severely slows everything down. Most of the faster flowering selections that Heisen/others are femming do/will do well here.

Re the Bubba's....and again...FWIW.... my knowledge is that Katsu's cut is a clone from the initial Organkid Bubba Kush S-1 drop selected by OG member "Katsu". Ditto with "Ghost OG".....which is a clone selected by Overgrow member "Ghost" from the "Ogre's Kush" S-1 drop (along with Banana OG) S-1's that Organkid dropped. These seeds went FAST....and my memory is that there were only 2 small drops...$100 a pack. The reason the Katsu cut and the Ghost Og cut are out there at all....and are still circulated today.... is that these two good-hearted cats shared cuts of strains that were previously very tighly held from a seed drop that was extremely limited... I've never heard where the Pre-98" originated (does anyone know?)....and there was also a "Wide" or "Green" leaf Bubba that once circulated as well. "Abusive OG' was another member named cut...unrelated to BK...and again...I never really hear much solid info about it's origin....though some back in the day said it was an "Ortega" offspring/offshoot/cultivar and not related ot "OG" at all. Blahblahblah......
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That is not accurate.

Katsu_Bluebird bought the "green pheno" of Bubba Kush from Orgnkid around 2003/4 and then spread it online. The Bubba Kush S1's that Orgnkid made had already been out for about a year at that time, hence where the "Mint" Bubba from ECKush01 came from. They sold fast, but they weren't that limited. Thousands of packs went out. Orgnkid also released thousands of packs of Oger Kush S1's just after the Bubba release.

Ghost1 bought the "Oger Kush" aka "OG Kush" from Orgnkid for $1000 around 04/05. $500 when sent, $500 when delivered. Ghost1 never paid for the delivery half of the payment. He then spread the clone everywhere as Oger Kush but people started calling it "Ghost OG" because he was the one that spread it around. It's not an S1 if you have the original and can trace it back directly.

The Banana OG was Oger Kush x Sagarmartha's 60/40 freebies from Gypsy's site SeedsDirect.to . It was always a regular hybrid, not femmed. He also was the first to make the Sour Kush (Oger Kush x 1st Gen Soma NYCD).

Pre 98 Bubba is a term I coined in 2004 when I was doing a comparison thread on Cannabis World between all the Bubba Kush cuts. At the time I had Orgnkid's "Green" pheno, aka Katsu, his "Purple" pheno which was an S1, and the clone from 707 Seed Bank who had received the clone from a glass blower friend in winter of 97/98. I had to come up with labels for all of them considering I can't label them all Bubba Kush. So the 707 Seed Bank cut got termed the "Pre98" on its label. Swerve then appropriated that name from my thread and used it in his marketing for a cut that is not verified as actual Pre98 and made up his own bullshit story. Par for the course for him.

Abusive OG was an "OG" cut from Overgrow member Abusive. It wasn't all that OG in the traditional sense hence why it didn't stick around. It was a horribly low yielder unless you vegged and topped the shit out of it, and was still lanky as hell. It had a rank halitosis breath kushy scent to it, but the taste didn't translate at all. pretty good potency. Abusive claimed Snoop Dogg personally gave it to him. The whole story and his recount of it was suspect to say the least.

Hopefully this helps stop the spread of rampant misinformation.
 
Stiickygreen

Stiickygreen

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Thanks. Not trying to spread "rampant misinformation". None of it matters in a current sense unless yer stuck in time. I never knew/cared about the back story...I was just happy to recieve cuts directly from both of those cats and be included as a part of a nice little private/invite-only clone/genetics swapping page many of us were on around the same timeframe. Good times, for sure.
 
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cookiemonstar80

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Goats22 said:
i definitely appreciate the history on these cuts from the people who know.

i learned a lot about cookies and the various cuts from chunky. would still love to hold that ogkb 2.0 he found.
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same goats22 I sit back and take it all in and learn so much everyday on here. one day I hope to have some fire dna in my stock. mo just finally went medical so for past years just been unknow bag seeds of my fav strains I bought of street. but now I am a legal begal and ready to use my skills on genetics that are worth the cost of grow. don't get me wrong my past grows were ok but unkown genes drives me crazy personaly..
 
Bodyne

Bodyne

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jayblaze710 said:
Chem D....although there have been rumors that it wasn’t the real Chem D cut that was used. It was probably the real Chem D cut, but I know there are people who are skeptical.
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Boy, with the potency reports, it seems like it would be the real deal. Or a special pheno of ChemD. So many claim it checks all the boxes. I've grown a 91 out that had that super strong, almost water your eyes garlic onion pheno and it would thump your head good. FWIW, you sure don't hear the same comparison with Milk Bones, or Star Cookies even, or UFO cookies, etc. You hear good things, but not the same as you hear bout the GMO, jmho and jme.
 
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Bodyne said:
Boy, with the potency reports, it seems like it would be the real deal. Or a special pheno of ChemD. So many claim it checks all the boxes. I've grown a 91 out that had that super strong, almost water your eyes garlic onion pheno and it would thump your head good. FWIW, you sure don't hear the same comparison with Milk Bones, or Star Cookies even, or UFO cookies, etc. You hear good things, but not the same as you hear bout the GMO, jmho and jme.
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Thanks sounds great
 
Goats22

Goats22

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looks good man. seems like you're gonna have a good idea of which cuts are good donors and which are best as the receiver after the first round here.

i'm sure those orgy seeds will be fun to pop one or two here and there to see what can be found.

was also thinking when you said you got corey stardawg pollen that you can now create some fem greenpoint strains haha. fem tomahawk, fem ghost town. funny shit.
 
Heisenbeans

Heisenbeans

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Goats22 said:
looks good man. seems like you're gonna have a good idea of which cuts are good donors and which are best as the receiver after the first round here.

i'm sure those orgy seeds will be fun to pop one or two here and there to see what can be found.

was also thinking when you said you got corey stardawg pollen that you can now create some fem greenpoint strains haha. fem tomahawk, fem ghost town. funny shit.
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Only difference is that Kate male came from 1 pack of seeds. The Corey was found out of 100s of packs of seeds. It wasnt just a Male that came from a random pack. I think the reversed Corey will make some hella crosses as well as s1s for people looking for all stardawg traits. As long as plants in the crosses are showing good expression on both sides.
 
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evergreengardener

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Heisenbeans said:
Only difference is that Kate male came from 1 pack of seeds. The Corey was found out of 100s of packs of seeds. It wasnt just a Male that came from a random pack. I think the reversed Corey will make some hella crosses as well as s1s for people looking for all stardawg traits. As long as plants in the crosses are showing good expression on both sides.
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Ill definitely run the SD s1 and count me in for some of them bastard children I’ll raise those little fuckers right
 
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