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Heisenbeans

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Greenthumbs256 said:
you seem to know a lot about the led game, and are pretty upfront about shit!

to run my 4x8 I wanted 2 hlg 600, prebuilt with dimmer knobs coming in at just about 760$ each, if you were me, what would u run, and it has to be pre built! can't chance fucking it up, and losing that much cash, this bill is really putting a hurting on me! but it's a must! temps are kicking my ass right now, even in winter!
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I'm a fan of cobs to be honest. Not a big fan of the boards unless you can get them over the entire footprint.
I think strips are where it's at now but that is alot of shit to take in. So many different strips and parallel wiring is a PIA.
 
Greenthumbs256

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Heisenbeans said:
I'm a fan of cobs to be honest. Not a big fan of the boards unless you can get them over the entire footprint.
I think strips are where it's at now but that is alot of shit to take in. So many different strips and parallel wiring is a PIA.
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thing is tho, a 4x4 and running a 600qb, that's rated for a 5x5, that should cover every inch easily right!
 
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whytewidow said:
Those are 134lm/w to 154lm/w not super good but not super bad either. For free. I'd run them. They came from a highbay light fixture. Called the airflex and airflex 2. They are just regular smd 2835 0r 3528 diodes.

They are more for lighting factories n whatnot. But they would veg pretty good.

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Thanks, I suppose I could use these in the veg tent or as supplemental lighting in the flowering tent.
 
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Does anyone know if these are good LEDs? A buddy gave me this but never used it cause of the wires as I'm not sure if I can get someone to get a 110v plug to it so i can plug into standard socket. I don't know shit about electrical stuff. Is this even capable of being repaired to fit a 110v socket? Sorry for getting off topic.
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I don't see a driver? I wouldn't hook 110 direct to the LEDs if they are not designed for 110 you will fry them. 110 is pretty easy to wire. Ground is the only one that really matters. The hot and neutral you can mix up and it will be fine. Green is ground.
 
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Turpman said:
I don't see a driver? I wouldn't hook 110 direct to the LEDs if they are not designed for 110 you will fry them. 110 is pretty easy to wire. Ground is the only one that really matters. The hot and neutral you can mix up and it will be fine. Green is ground.
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:cuss: while alternating current appears to have no polarity if you tie the hot leg to the wrong AC input you might end up with a fuse tripped "dead" piece of equipment that could still be energized.
 
Turpman

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Heisenbeans said:
The boards are for this I built the other day. It's just for cloning and day old clones that go into little pots than to a little bigger ones. Just for veg 3 weeks max.
I took a 2x4 tent and cut it up to make a 2x8 which is perfect for what I need.

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Wow that turned out nice. Plugins inside too.
I ended up going with 4' Bridgelux EB strips. They have been great.
My 4x4 has a 16" clone addition. 4 strips / level 3500 and 5000k mix. Lots of light.
I wish they put out a little more heat, winter has reared it ugly head. -31 the other night.
You running multiple sections? I'm guessing you will have it full all the time so one driver may fit the bill. Nice to see the updates.
 
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CannaBruh said:
:cuss: while alternating current appears to have no polarity if you tie the hot leg to the wrong AC input you might end up with a fuse tripped "dead" piece of equipment that could still be energized.
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I stand corrected. Never thought of the blown fuze scenario.
 
Goats22

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Heisenbeans said:
Naw man at 51 volts X 2.1 amps that's over 100 watts per board. 6 boards is almost 700 watts in a 2x8. But I dont need that much light for 2 day old plants to 3 weeks max. That's still 40 watts per square foot which is what I'm using now on the big cob setups and killing it.
I'm not vegging these plants past 6 nodes
The boards made more sense cause they come with the slates. I dont have put a ton of shit together.
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QBs have more penetration than people give them credit for, at least when you start stacking multiple boards close to one another. i have a height difference of a foot or more in flower right now and have no concerns about the shorter plants not getting enough light.
i have seen it said by people smarter than myself that 30w/sq ft is all you need with QBs. i run mine a bit higher at ~35w/sq ft.
for veg, what you're suggesting will crush.
 
Greenthumbs256

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NoWaistedSpace said:
I parallel my Vero's then run in series. 6 vero' on a 240 2100mA. I have 18COBs in a 4x4. I do this because I have way more Veros than space to run them.
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yea see that's where yall lose me, lol no point in trying to explain ppl have tried before with out any luck!

I'm just looking to find out if 2x 600 qb is the best route to go for a 4x8, considering it must be prebuilt! only prebuilt cobs will run me in the ballpark of 1k-1500 for each side of the 4x8, and these qb's come in less than 800 each!
 
Badmofo529

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Those are probably the best deal in prebuilts. I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit though. Diy is easy if you go with a build that has been done before and you just replicate it. You can copy the hlg 600 part for part and build it cheaper by a couple hundred.

If you have ever hooked up a car stereo, you should be able to wire up some boards.
 
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Badmofo529 said:
Those are probably the best deal in prebuilts. I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit though. Diy is easy if you go with a build that has been done before and you just replicate it. You can copy the hlg 600 part for part and build it cheaper by a couple hundred.

If you have ever hooked up a car stereo, you should be able to wire up some boards.
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I'm actually very good with diy, love building stuff, I build me sips, my worm farm, even so ghetto rig for my ac, also do all my own maintenance on my and the bosses vehicles! but I just don't get electricity and wires! it really doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

now with that being said yes I could YouTube and step by step buy a light, but the chance of something going wrong, or making a costly mistake can't even be a chance, in 5 years, I've never been able to spend this much on a light! I finally can after saving, so zero chance of me screwing somthing up is a must, can't afford to replace anything! also the risk of fire, since I'm illegal! I need guarantees that I won't have the slightest chance of problems like fire bc I made a simple mistake, and one wire was in the wrong spot!
 
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hell with the dirty ass popo we all got, I dont grow 10lbs a year, but if God forbid I was to busted right now, that gg4 I have in the sip, if cut at the base, I'm willing to bet it would weigh 30+ pounds wet! if they weighed the whole pot after watering! hell it might hit ballpark of 80 or something! not to mention all my other girls!

bottom line, I should be looking at a max of 8 months in jail, for 10 pounds or less and a minimum of just fines no jail time! but the popo being as dirty as they are, theres no telling what they will say it weighs! so I'm extremely cautious, and take many extra steps to not have to think about that! fire being on top of my list!
 
NoWaistedSpace

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Leds are a lot safer.
It's hard to blow everything up. lol
I have disconnects on everything. If a light should fall, it disconnects. if a driver overheats, it has internal over rides. They are pretty safe in my book. Plus I can hit my leds with water and they don't explode. lol
As far as heat, My COBs run 10 to 15 degrees average above leaf temps. That's all.
I can also crank them up to help with wintertime temps. I love the control over my environment.
 
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Greenthumbs256

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NoWaistedSpace said:
Leds are a lot safer.
It's hard to blow everything up. lol
I have disconnects on everything. If a light should fall, it disconnects. if a driver overheats, it has internal over rides. They are pretty safe in my book. Plus I can hit my leds with water and they don't explode. lol
As far as heat, My COBs run 10 to 15 degrees average above leaf temps. That's all.
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does the hlg qb come with that? the shut off thing
 
whytewidow

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Heisenbeans said:
The boards are for this I built the other day. It's just for cloning and day old clones that go into little pots than to a little bigger ones. Just for veg 3 weeks max.
I took a 2x4 tent and cut it up to make a 2x8 which is perfect for what I need.

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Well that changes everything lol. Boards will work flawlessly in that. I thought you were running an open room like everything else. My bad.
 
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