MegaCrop !!!!!!!!!!!!!try jacks my plants are always super healthy with jacks unless im lazy an screw up watering or forget to ph
its ok ive been trying it this run i like jacks alot better i threw like 15lbs of mega crop in the garbage a few days ago and ordered jacks again im in coco so results may be different in soilMegaCrop !!!!!!!!!!!!!
You got issues and you need to grow up. Everyone calmed down and left things alone and you come back the next day stirring the shit up again. We got into your head brother and over a light lol. Now you're on here crying that you're going to IG looking for pitty? Oh no I'm going to IG my thread with my burnt plants is over wahhhhh...........so the anti led guys that scream bullshit arent gonna give any examples? funny that
it's like the boy that cried wolf.
jokers
i asked for proof of the trolls lies, you know, the guys saying led yields in here are bullshit and it get ignored like everytime a troll ignores a question they cant answer...can you work out why?You got issues and you need to grow up. Everyone calmed down and left things alone and you come back the next day stirring the shit up again. We got into your head brother and over a light lol. Now you're on here crying that you're going to IG looking for pitty? Oh no I'm going to IG my thread with my burnt plants is over wahhhhh...........
C'ya later have fun
So you resort to name calling? Internet tough guy? So tough a guy getting under your skin is causing you to leave the forum lol...... And wait a minute didn't you put me on ignore for like the 5th time yesterday yet here you are replying to me again lol......i asked for proof of the trolls lies, you know, the guys saying led yields in here are bullshit and it get ignored like everytime a troll ignores a question they cant answer...can you work out why?
goodbye you dumb little bastard x
logging off.
Can it be reg Epsom salt at the drug store?do a little epsom salt instead of a calmag supplement if you can. if the environment and nutes are dialed for hps im surprised the led dont look worse every grow
YesCan it be reg Epsom salt at the drug store?
People hitting 3.5-4 lbs with 800-900w of diy leds in ~25 sq feet easy now.For what its worth ive run both COBS ( Citis, 5590s and Vero). I currently run Nanolux DE Fixtures.
Hit 3.5 a light in a tent. Do they get hot? Yes, I run a large intake and extraction and have good temps. ACDE hood would be ideal.
However, where DE shines is in a larger space.
A DE Can illuminate a 5 x 6 space Flower and a 6 x 7 Veg from our tests.
The LED will be of lower electricity for sure. In a hobby grower enviornment a LED would be ideal, but that still depends on your grow style.
A DE with an AC DE Hood and intake and extraction fan will cost less than the LED and the yield will be enormous with the right genetics.
Really all about how you grow and your budget. LED will last longer for hobby growers.
I prefer DE myself as the cost of LED is still absurd and electricity where we live is cheap.
LED is great, would reccomend a LED unless your groing really big plants and need the penatration of a DE
You sure spew a lot of myth for someone that really doesn't even have a LED Strip harvest in the bag.People hitting 3.5-4 lbs with 800-900w of diy leds in ~25 sq feet easy now.
The AC/DE hoods are the only sensible way to do DEHPS without massive ceilings.
As for cost, you can build a 1000w samsung strip light that has 27% more raw output (than a 1150w dehps) and is better in every single regard for around $850. A 1000w AC/DE setup is like $600.
- 6x Samsung LT-FB24B double row 44" strips ($300)
- 3x Mean Well HLG-320H-48A drivers ($250)
- 6x 46" pieces of 1.8" aluminum heatsink ($180) note how its 2" longer than the strips, dont forget that
- 3/4" Aluminum L frame 1/8" thick for your frame, 4x 46" pieces - $30
- A box of 5 slot wagos - $20
- 14g and 18g solid core wire - $12
- M6 screws - $3
- Power cords - $15
- Thermal tape - $10
Total cost is about $820 plus shipping. 960-1000+ watts depending on how many extra watts your A series meanwells give you. PPF output of around 2200+
A DEHPS bulb running on 1150w overdrive has a PPF output of around 2000. And those AC/DE hoods with the glass on them eat a solid 15% of that, so really 1700 PPF. If you dont want to HAVE to replace your bulb every 3 months, a 1000w DEHPS bulb is around 1850 PPF.
And you can veg under the LEDs. Quality should increase in every regard.They'll last 8-10 years. Driver has 7 year warranty. Spectrum is far better. You can place them closer to your plants.
The DEHPS might edge it on in penetration, but I frankly really doubt it.
HPS is just not there. And if I hear someone say this is all bullshit because I dont use DEHPS myself, then you can keep telling yourself those inefficient orange space heaters are the best while us LED heads will laugh at you.
Because why not? You would run a 1000w DEHPS in a 5x5 tent due to heat and intensity issues in a 4x4, which would loose you yield. But a 1150w DEHPS can't max out a5x5 tent. So that LED build can be used, and it will use utilize the space fully.Why would someone replace 1150W HPS with 900W led? Shouldn't it be 690W max at the 60% led watt : Hps watt ratio?
Your trimming the wattage savings too small to be attractive with what you recommend.
Who said anything about a guarentee? You're never guarenteed any kind of yield. You earn it. I'm just letting people know that people are pulling around there with LEDs in such a space. Not only is 4lbs not possible with DEHPS, let alone in a 5x5 tent, but just to get 3-3.5 with dehps requires a PERFECTLY dialed in grow running clones you know like the back of your hand.And then there is you'r 4 units in a 5x5 guarantee
So if I hang your proposed led build in my space even the shittiest 5 pack of seeds automatically become winners?Who said anything about a guarentee? You're never guarenteed any kind of yield. You earn it. I'm just letting people know that people are pulling around there with LEDs in such a space. Not only is 4lbs not possible with DEHPS, let alone in a 5x5 tent, but just to get 3-3.5 with dehps requires a PERFECTLY dialed in grow running clones you know like the back of your hand.
You're putting words in my mouth again.So if I hang your proposed led build in my space even the shittiest 5 pack of seeds automatically become winners?
Your killing me bro
That is close to my total system.People hitting 3.5-4 lbs with 800-900w of diy leds in ~25 sq feet easy now.
The AC/DE hoods are the only sensible way to do DEHPS without massive ceilings.
As for cost, you can build a 1000w samsung strip light that has 27% more raw output (than a 1150w dehps) and is better in every single regard for around $850. A 1000w AC/DE setup is like $600.
- 6x Samsung LT-FB24B double row 44" strips ($300)
- 3x Mean Well HLG-320H-48A drivers ($250)
- 6x 46" pieces of 1.8" aluminum heatsink ($180) note how its 2" longer than the strips, dont forget that
- 3/4" Aluminum L frame 1/8" thick for your frame, 4x 46" pieces - $30
- A box of 5 slot wagos - $20
- 14g and 18g solid core wire - $12
- M6 screws - $3
- Power cords - $15
- Thermal tape - $10
Total cost is about $820 plus shipping. 960-1000+ watts depending on how many extra watts your A series meanwells give you. PPF output of around 2200+
A DEHPS bulb running on 1150w overdrive has a PPF output of around 2000. And those AC/DE hoods with the glass on them eat a solid 15% of that, so really 1700 PPF. If you dont want to HAVE to replace your bulb every 3 months, a 1000w DEHPS bulb is around 1850 PPF.
And you can veg under the LEDs. Quality should increase in every regard.They'll last 8-10 years. Driver has 7 year warranty. Spectrum is far better. You can place them closer to your plants.
The DEHPS might edge it on in penetration, but I frankly really doubt it.
HPS is just not there. And if I hear someone say this is all bullshit because I dont use DEHPS myself, then you can keep telling yourself those inefficient orange space heaters are the best while us LED heads will laugh at you.
Yeah dude. Check out Fluence bioengineering's youtube channel. Massive cannabis farms are using their SPYDR X Plus and other types of lights from their old cmh/dehps/hps lamps and because of it they can now do vertical grows which just triples their output. They all mention the upfront cost being the reason they waited so long to swap over, but once they did every single cost went down massively, their production went way up, and the quality of the crop is a noticeable upgrade.Are there HUGE facilities running leds?
And i mean HUGE like monsanto style big
Not your buddies ware house im talkin multi acre multi million dollar agricultural operations
How's it treating you? That's one hell of a light. And a 4x6' tray is perfect for the 44" long strips.That is close to my total system.
3 x320W drivers, one with 4 strips two with 3. The layout is to cover 4'x6' trays in total.